Anyone else thinking about quitting when Cata comes out? - Games

Like I said, I didn't play much in wotlk. And the fact warlocks need different stats in wotlk threw me a little.. Because I didn't realise before I had gotten a few items and gems. They are good enough for levling in cataclysm.. :) And okay, so I got carried, still doesn't change anything. I was not carried in vanilla, nor tbc. You should have tried aq40 when it was brand new, or blackwing lair.

Yeah sorry but you got carried hard and know nothing about what you're doing. [editline]05:38AM[/editline] Inb4 reply stating I should get out [editline]05:39AM[/editline] And it does change a lot, a normal person doesnt take only 2-5 days to get full ICC geared sorry.

[QUOTE=g1real;23117255]Yeah sorry but you got carried hard and know nothing about what you're doing. [editline]05:38AM[/editline] Inb4 reply stating I should get out [editline]05:39AM[/editline] And it does change a lot, a normal person doesnt take only 2-5 days to get full ICC geared sorry.[/QUOTE] That depends how active he is. And yes, I got carried the first times. I've still done alot of raids on my own.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23116742]Yeah no, it's easy, but it's not that easy. If you know nothing about the encounter, you maybe not know what to do, or figure it out fast enough. You can't one shot encounters with 25 people trying to figure it out.[/QUOTE] A lot of the new content is very easy, you've got to remember 90% of players on Warcraft are just terrible players, who need everything spelled out to them. I personally am really, really looking forward to the 10 man content with equal gear. That way I can get a few PvP players who know what they're doing and stomp some content. Due to this I can itemize how I want, not how the blizzard PvP designer feels (3 green stats on everything /wrists).

[QUOTE=Hairybastard;23117298]That depends how active he is. And yes, I got carried the first times. I've still done alot of raids on my own.[/QUOTE] Right, so you and your pvp gear and crit gems really broke those meters eh? They could've grabbed someone that could triple your dps.

But anyway, we derailed a little. My point is, wotlk is rather shitty. it is just waay to easy to get gear, the pvp is boring, wintergrasp is a total failure, as it is VERY unbalanced on most servers. There isn't any cc what so ever in the raids and instances, there are a few tactics. Most likely very hard in icc25 hc or even normal icc25 when you get to 7th boss and up. But anyone who disagrees obviously is not very updated or is way to lazy. [editline]03:45AM[/editline] [QUOTE=sonicrjk;23117321]Right, so you and your pvp gear and crit gems really broke those meters eh? They could've grabbed someone that could triple your dps.[/QUOTE] I'm mainly a PvP'er, thats why I got more pvp gear then PvE gear. I just did the raids because... well Idk. PvP is beyond boring, and its quicker to collect stone keeper than do BG's because I'm in the worst battlerealm in europe and horde win 1/20 games. So yeah. Cataclysm will be nice, europe will be one big battlerealm epic will actually be epics, crowd control will be brought back and azeroth will be fun to level in again.

Saying PvP is boring has always been a bad excuse for sucking...

[QUOTE=Shrapnel :3;23117381]Saying PvP is boring has always been a bad excuse for sucking...[/QUOTE] No, PvP is starting to get fun now. Now that I have resilience. I still think resilience is kinda lame, although I understand it because a raider can get a unfair advantage. But resilience is really a killer for newly dinged people. And people who don't like arenas can't really get good gear..

[QUOTE=Hairybastard;23117328] I'm mainly a PvP'er, .[/QUOTE] I'm lol'ing my face off. [QUOTE=Hairybastard;23117404]although I understand it because a raider can get a unfair advantage. But resilience is really a killer for newly dinged people. And people who don't like arenas can't really get good gear..[/QUOTE] And then I facepalmed.

Arena is the raid content as battlegrounds are the heroics. You'd be pissed if people who didn't like raiding got equivalent gear just because they ran a few heroics. Though I agree, PvP should be more accessible, the TBC system of giving whole PvP sets 2 seasons behind was very good and allowed new players an entry point to arena. Another problem is the differences in stats/raw dps on new weapons and gear is huge in LK. In TBC a player in S2 gear could beat a S4 player by outplaying him, but since LK the stamina/resilience difference means a more geared player can just tank a worse geared one. I've got first hand experience of this, having fucked up in a duel and still won due to my better gear. I think both raiding and PvP should be more accessible. It's a shame they fucked up battle ground queues.

Also to your full geared crap. You hit 80 on the 3rd, you got full epic on the 29th.

[QUOTE=sonicrjk;23117468]Also to your full geared crap. You hit 80 on the 3rd, you got full epic on the 29th.[/QUOTE] Yeah because I played every day since I dinged :)

Nice talents btw, a destro lock really needs imp Succubus(If that is your pve spec)but if it's not it's still funny because you don't have metamorphosis on your pve spec. OR you have 2 pvp specs and you're just dense. [editline]03:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hairybastard;23117547]Yeah because I played every day since I dinged :)[/QUOTE] You said it took a week.

[QUOTE=Shrapnel :3;23117462]Arena is the raid content as battlegrounds are the heroics. You'd be pissed if people who didn't like raiding got equivalent gear just because they ran a few heroics. Though I agree, PvP should be more accessible, the TBC system of giving whole PvP sets 2 seasons behind was very good and allowed new players an entry point to arena. Another problem is the differences in stats/raw dps on new weapons and gear is huge in LK. In TBC a player in S2 gear could beat a S4 player by outplaying him, but since LK the stamina/resilience difference means a more geared player can just tank a worse geared one. I've got first hand experience of this, having fucked up in a duel and still won due to my better gear. I think both raiding and PvP should be more accessible. It's a shame they fucked up battle ground queues.[/QUOTE] Yeah I agree, and the battle queues are a damn shame. You wait 20 minutes to just lose the bg.. atleast on my server. Thats why I cant wait for cataclysm. Each region will be a battlerealm.

Hairy, you are a bad. People like you make me facepalm.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23117713]Hairy, you are a bad. People like you make me facepalm.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry I am a bad.. [editline]04:15AM[/editline] go ask someone for gs and achi for hc HoR or something

You are actually so bad. You're points are so closed to you own personal thoughts. You kept screaming facts facts but they are not facts, okay maybe the whole Blizz said that the badge system was flawed, though it's worked for me since I've played. Before you ask no I didn't play Vanilla or much of TBC, but I can still tell when I'm having fun, and in WoTLK I've had fun Ulduar was one of the most fun raids I've ever had the pleasure of raiding. Other than the fact that you seem to be bitching about almost every aspect of the games as it stands right now, you clearly have too much to hate about it. There is no reason to go on and on about how they will be bringing back CC big deal now I get to deal with retards who can't CC in HC's won't that be goddamn fun? You keep crying about how Epics aren't Epic they are common? You're in a fucking raid environment of course epics are going to drop maybe you're just balls lucky that gear for you dropped and you rolled the highest, and congratulations on that but don't start saying oh I have full epics that means the game is too easy. You're full of shit to be honest because if you think the game is so easy, show me all your kill achievements, although don't come along and say but I've read the tactics and I've raided for however long you have, because in theory I could murder someone and get away with it (please don't dwell on this) but of course it most likely won't pan out that way. So don't come along and say that you can kill any hardmode because you've read the tactics and have raided in Vanilla.

Wow taurens can be paladins? Fuck this game

[QUOTE=Shanto;23121875]You are actually so bad. You're points are so closed to you own personal thoughts. You kept screaming facts facts but they are not facts, okay maybe the whole Blizz said that the badge system was flawed, though it's worked for me since I've played. Before you ask no I didn't play Vanilla or much of TBC, but I can still tell when I'm having fun, and in WoTLK I've had fun Ulduar was one of the most fun raids I've ever had the pleasure of raiding. Other than the fact that you seem to be bitching about almost every aspect of the games as it stands right now, you clearly have too much to hate about it. There is no reason to go on and on about how they will be bringing back CC big deal now I get to deal with retards who can't CC in HC's won't that be goddamn fun? You keep crying about how Epics aren't Epic they are common? You're in a fucking raid environment of course epics are going to drop maybe you're just balls lucky that gear for you dropped and you rolled the highest, and congratulations on that but don't start saying oh I have full epics that means the game is too easy. You're full of shit to be honest because if you think the game is so easy, show me all your kill achievements, although don't come along and say but I've read the tactics and I've raided for however long you have, because in theory I could murder someone and get away with it (please don't dwell on this) but of course it most likely won't pan out that way. So don't come along and say that you can kill any hardmode because you've read the tactics and have raided in Vanilla.[/QUOTE] First of all, I never said hardmodes werent hard, and I think you've completely missed the point of my comments. Read the Thread title. I'm merely saying my reasons for why people should stick arround for cata, I'm not trying to get people to quit wotlk. Yes it's my opinion that wotlk is crap. And you might not agree because you don't know any better.. You didnt play vanilla and tbc, like you said. So It's natural you can have fun in wotlk. I had fun too, the first week. Then everything got old, I could go out achievement hunting. But I don't see the point when I'm not going to keep playing before cc is out. The OP probably saw the cataclysm trailer, and thought "tauren paladin?! that makes no sense" just like everyone thought at first, then he saw the fake photoshopped pic he posted in the OP and decided to make this thread without having actually read up on CC one bit. There are alot of people who think cc will totally ruin wow forever, those are the people who haven't updated themselves on CC at ALL. Their only source of information is the kids in trade channel and the cataclysm trailer, lol. [editline]10:12AM[/editline] And I didn't get to raid ulduar, sadly. I quit 2-3 weeks after release, and re-subbbed 2 weeks ago I think. You have to agree blizzard fucked up major by making almost every lvl 80 raid instance useless, as you can get better epics from HC's or normals.. The only place peoole raid now a days is icc toc and VoA

[QUOTE=A Glitch;23114170]hunters DID have focus in the beta from what i'm told, it didn't work which is they have mana [/QUOTE] Yeah, they did, didn't work the same as it does, if i recall rightly it only regenerated when you stood still.

[QUOTE=Hairybastard;23114451]This is true. If you have seen the tauren paladin mount, it doesn't exactly scream of holy like the human paladin mount. It has a more shamantistic approach. Because the taurens believe in the earthmother.[/QUOTE] I just thought I'd add here that tauren paladins will be called "sunwalkers". "the light" where the paladins and the priests get their name from is called that because it is reckoned to be the moon. The moon and the sun are the earth mothers eyes, she tore them out rather than seeing what the world had become. current priests and paladins take their power from the moon (the belf pallys from the magic sunwell). but these tauren "sunwalkers" will take their paladin powers from the sun. Nelfs call the moon Alune, mu'sha to the tauren. and An'she is the sun. it is also hypothesised that these are just figurative and are really naaru, teaching the mortal races a small peice of their power.

[QUOTE=Hairybastard;23122148] There are alot of people who think cc will totally ruin wow forever, those are the people who haven't updated themselves on CC at ALL. Their only source of information is the kids in trade channel and the cataclysm trailer, lol. And I didn't get to raid ulduar, sadly. I quit 2-3 weeks after release, and re-subbbed 2 weeks ago I think. You have to agree blizzard fucked up major by making almost every lvl 80 raid instance useless, as you can get better epics from HC's or normals.. The only place peoole raid now a days is icc toc and VoA[/QUOTE] People who think Cata will ruin WoW are just ignorant and looking for reasons to quit to be fair I think Cata looks awesome and Blizzard will try their hardest just like they always do to please everyone sometimes it backfires sometimes it doesn't, take into account he Random Dungeon Finder this is one of the best things I've seen added to WoW as a feature, on the flip side take the fact that it is quite easy to gear up as long as you are one lucky and two not dumb. I do agree sort of that it sucks that some people who didn't get to see some of the best WoTLK content won't unless they get into a nice guild and try to get some of the achievements in Ulduar. But I meant call me retarded, but isn't that the way of MMO's old content doesn't get played because people can be carried through new content to gear up?

[QUOTE=Shanto;23122565]People who think Cata will ruin WoW are just ignorant and looking for reasons to quit to be fair I think Cata looks awesome and Blizzard will try their hardest just like they always do to please everyone sometimes it backfires sometimes it doesn't, take into account he Random Dungeon Finder this is one of the best things I've seen added to WoW as a feature, on the flip side take the fact that it is quite easy to gear up as long as you are one lucky and two not dumb. I do agree sort of that it sucks that some people who didn't get to see some of the best WoTLK content won't unless they get into a nice guild and try to get some of the achievements in Ulduar. But I meant call me retarded, but isn't that the way of MMO's old content doesn't get played because people can be carried through new content to gear up?[/QUOTE] Raid instances in the current endgame should not be concidered "old content" Every endgame raid should still be a more viable option then going a normal 5 man instance.

Yeah but still it would not be done because people would be able just blaze through it so easily that's why the new 5 mans are there because they are at least a little bit more challenging than doing Naxx 10 or 25. It's not like every time they make new raids they would update the difficulty of the old raids just because that content would pretty much not be done. But clearly you have your opinions and I have my own and I know a few words won't change my opinion on the game at all, currently I still enjoy it and have fun with the people I raid with (Fudge Packers EU <3) and that's how I have fun in WoW raiding with friends and people who can have a laugh while progressing through content then I can have fun.

[QUOTE=kenji;23122384]Yeah, they did, didn't work the same as it does, if i recall rightly it only regenerated when you stood still.[/QUOTE] riiiight, that would make sense why they changed it then... and hairybastard, colour of gear does not matter. who gives a toss if you're going to be using blues for the first raid, so what, theres still going to be some blues that are on par with epics, and even after this first tier is cleared you'll be spending the rest of the expansion in epics...

I'll most definitely roll a troll druid once Cata comes, [url=http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Laughing+Skull&cn=Ateist]as soon as I level up my first 80 that is.[/url] >,> [QUOTE=sonicrjk;23116691]Not quite everything, I don't recall them saying anything about CC or Badges like you did.[/QUOTE] What are you, 15? Holy shit you're annoying.

[QUOTE=chrispartaprpra;23122083]Wow taurens can be paladins? Fuck this game[/QUOTE] It doesn't go against anything they believe in. Paladins isn't a bloodline thing anyway, it can be taught. Plus their mounts look more like a shamans mount then a Humans Paladin Mount.

[QUOTE=sonicrjk;23087762]I mean honestly, it seems like Blizz isn't even trying anymore, Tauren Paladins, Troll Druids? Anyone else thinking about quitting?[/QUOTE] It's all in the lore btw, and Tauren Paladins were in Warcraft 2.

[QUOTE=NickFury6;23139256]It's all in the lore btw, and Tauren Paladins were in Warcraft 2.[/QUOTE] I don't remember [i]any[/i] Taurens appearing until WC3. They were from Kalimdor, WC1 and 2 took place on the eastern continent.

hey hairy, stop posting