[QUOTE=Lefter;39375468]i dont like it when the only 2 supports in your team
lina and witch doctor
rushing aghs and bloodstone
[editline]27th January 2013[/editline]
when they dont even have a mek
or a pipe
[B]or a vlads[/B]
i didnt want to win anyways
how did i post into wrong thread?[/QUOTE]
Vlads? On a ranged hero?
Not worth it even if you're the only support on the team.
ESPECIALLY when you're the only support on the team.
[QUOTE=maxumym;39483316]Vlads? On a ranged hero?
Not worth it even if you're the only support on the team.
ESPECIALLY when you're the only support on the team.[/QUOTE]
Vlads is perfectly fine on supports...the lifesteal is wasted on a support anyway. It's good to get if you have a melee carry
Vlads is a support item anyways, isn't it? Not something carries should build themselves.
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39487434]Vlads is a support item anyways, isn't it? Not something carries should build themselves.[/QUOTE]
Yes. The only reason carries build it is to get it sooner since it provides no survivability on a support, but giving your carry an entire extra item slot is a pretty fucking big deal, especially if you go super late
Pretty sure I see more carries or semi-carries building vlad's than support heroes.
but the damage bonus works for ranged heros right? so think about shit like vengeful spirit, building tranquil boots at start, then later on but semi quickly disassembling them into vlad's and phase boots (assuming no one built it) and probably have meka/forcestaff for being a support, or both if the match is going decently enough. And wards/TP's, not sure if anymore room for Magic Wand.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39487628]Pretty sure I see more carries or semi-carries building vlad's than support heroes.[/QUOTE]
then you're playing with bad carries
I see supports build Vladmir's Offering too much
or is that fine
[QUOTE=Cronos Dage;39501044]I see supports build Vladmir's Offering too much
or is that fine[/QUOTE]
As long as they're not rushing it and do it for a melee carry
armlet on stalker
[QUOTE=Talkbox;39502216]armlet on stalker[/QUOTE]
I think that's the recommended build for him.
I would say that building vlads is better on supports then carries, even if the support is ranged. Because the carry can spend those 2k gold onto a big item/his core.
[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;39503456]I would say that building vlads is better on supports then carries, even if the support is ranged. Because the carry can spend those 2k gold onto a big item/his core.[/QUOTE]
That's it, but I'm not gonna rush it before my Mek/Drum/Pipe just because you want lifesteal.
[QUOTE=maxumym;39503531]That's it, but I'm not gonna rush it before my Mek/Drum/Pipe just because you want lifesteal.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I wouldn't say rush it either, it's a waste of gold if so. Unless you are a melee support and other supports are getting Mek/drum/Pipe, then it can be useful so you can push easier, although depending on the hero other items might be much better.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;39502216]armlet on stalker[/QUOTE]
Armlet is a great pickup on almost any strength hero tbh.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39503577]Armlet is a great pickup on almost any strength hero tbh.[/QUOTE]
Even on a hero as treant it can be good. (although support items is better, but he gets a shitload of damage if he gets it early).
[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;39503590]Even on a hero as treant it can be good. (although support items is better, but he gets a shitload of damage if he gets it early).[/QUOTE]
I like getting it early on Dragon Knight. Especially if you already max your passive asap you'll be hovering on almost 20 hp/sec @ 13 minutes.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;39502216]armlet on stalker[/QUOTE]
best strength dps hero item on a strength dps hero
so unique
[editline]7th February 2013[/editline]
Scythe on Nightstalker. If you're balling hard enough (Say you have treads {unless you build phase}, aghs and basher already) it is just hilarious. You have an attack effecting nuke and 8 second silence, but i'd rather my next meal be lamb.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39503577]Armlet is a great pickup on almost any strength hero tbh.[/QUOTE]
was wondering if it would be viable on Troll Warlord with lifesteal
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39506821]was wondering if it would be viable on Troll Warlord with lifesteal[/QUOTE]
What people don't realise is Armlet is super fucking cost effective. It's a situational pick-up on Medusa if you want to kick in super early.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39501129]As long as they're not rushing it and do it for a melee carry[/QUOTE]
Makes sense, I usually get it with melee.
I remember when around when I first tried Dota 2 (Even though I had played DoTA many years ago, I had forgotten) and I thought it would idea to make Divine Rapier my first item.
Also, I didn't know how to craft so I didn't even get Demon Edge or Sacred Relic first.
Also, I was Crystal Maiden.
I got it anyway and we won but I was just trying to farm or something.
I was shortly later kicked from the team.
I tried some "unique item builds" on Troll Warlord
First of all, I didn't get neither Ring of Aquila nor Helm of Domi.
I just went Q-blade/Ring of Protection/2xBranches early, bummed for a one set of Tangos from our support because no more gold, then Orb of Venom and Stout shield from side-shop.
Then on lane I quickly acquired Tranquils and PMS. Then after a bit of farm I took Vlad's and Phase boots at once (disassembling Tranquils for that), and finally Eye of Skadi for a Unique Attack. :v: (also BKB)
Anyway Vlad's on Troll is awesome instead of HotD because you can get yourself some nifty Unique Attack of your own choosing, like Desolator or my latest Eye of Skadi try-out.
MKB stacking on Troll
not sure how I can afford 3 or 4 MKB's on Troll.. Needs some other items too, or do you?
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/93043499[/url]
I dont have balls to do what CM have done.
one of my favourite unique builds is carry lina
drums, eul's, crystalis, eth blade into daedalus
now you're playing in the big leagues
[QUOTE=dual elites;39620745]one of my favourite unique builds is carry lina
drums, eul's, crystalis, eth blade into daedalus
now you're playing in the big leagues[/QUOTE]
Some guy I know builds refresher on Lina.
COOL HEART M8 GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE A REAL TANK.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;39644180]Some guy I know builds refresher on Lina.
COOL HEART M8 GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE A REAL TANK.[/QUOTE]
I do it too. For 1100 gold more you get more damage with two ults that with an upgraded one, plus two stuns and stuff.
[QUOTE=Liquidrocks;39654674]I do it too. For 1100 gold more you get more damage with two ults that with an upgraded one, plus two stuns and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Seriously. Scepter with a refresher = dead enemy team during team fights
BASH ON EVERY ATTACKSPEED BASED HERO YEAH!
I went for a pugna iz best tank build since our team was mostly int and our carry was lina..
[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/35arsqf.png[/IMG]
it worked for a while too until spirit breaker bought a bkb.
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