[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;38418409]The cheap machinegun sniper, it's fairly common, seen it a few times.
It works if you want a cheap, dirty build, combine it with sange and the guy won't move at all.[/QUOTE]
Sounds pretty nasty combo that MoM + SnY, not bad at all.
All you want to do is to secure your Sniper to allow shooting with those things in his disposal.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;38419659]Sounds pretty nasty combo that MoM + SnY, not bad at all.
All you want to do is to secure your Sniper to allow shooting with those things in his disposal.[/QUOTE]
That combo also makes him extremely fast on his feet.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;38418108]idk if its unnatural, but there was a sniper using mask of madness and every time he used it the person he was hitting couldnt move due to head shot stuns.[/QUOTE]
It's a real common strategy popping up now. Getting MoM and Skull Basher perma-stuns people from my experience. It was actually still very common in lower brackets before Sniper's buff even.
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[QUOTE=Suttles;38419638]what really pisses me off is MoM on drow
why[/QUOTE]
Hey, it might work if done right, machinegun Drow perhaps? I remember when the Sniper MoM build started popping up and the general chat was filled with people complaining about how bad it was.
Also, you're saying this in the 'Unique Item Builds' thread. You're kinda' counter-productive here saying that.
Dual Abyssal on Lone Druid can be absolutely terrifying.
The Spirit Bear needs a Point Booster to pull it off, though.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38422615]It's a real common strategy popping up now. Getting MoM and Skull Basher perma-stuns people from my experience. It was actually still very common in lower brackets before Sniper's buff even.
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Hey, it might work if done right, machinegun Drow perhaps? I remember when the Sniper MoM build started popping up and the general chat was filled with people complaining about how bad it was.
Also, you're saying this in the 'Unique Item Builds' thread. You're kinda' counter-productive here saying that.[/QUOTE]
It works, I'm not saying it doesn't. I tried it, its stupid but it works.
It's not stupid if it works :v:
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[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38423884]Dual Abyssal on Lone Druid can be absolutely terrifying.
The Spirit Bear needs a Point Booster to pull it off, though.[/QUOTE]
Dual Hand of Midas best build.
It's not terribly unique but instead of rushing shadowblade on sniper you can go boots > point booster > maelstrom > phase boots > mjollner > skadi. You lack an escape with this build but you don't blow up as fast at the same time. Level 4 headshot + skadi + maelstrom means permastun/slow.
Maelstrom/Mjollner don't slow or stun.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38438753]Maelstrom/Mjollner don't slow or stun.[/QUOTE]
headshot?
skadi slows
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38438753]Maelstrom/Mjollner don't slow or stun.[/QUOTE]
He probably just meant with the attack speed.
[QUOTE=Suttles;38438905]headshot?
skadi slows[/QUOTE]
I never questioned the other two.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38442933]I never questioned the other two.[/QUOTE]
oh, its for the attack speed
eh
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38438753]Maelstrom/Mjollner don't slow or stun.[/QUOTE]
Mjollner gives insane attack speed which gives more chances for headshot to proc, and if it doesn't proc then skadi will, and occasionally you'll get a chain lightning.
Oh god. Even though it has become the generic idea of "unique" builds, carry Omniknight is by far my favorite to play.
With a Sange and Yasha and Degen Aura, you can just run along side them, beating them into oblivion.
Idk if Assault Cuirass could be considered unique on Outworld but DPS for him is great and he's super squishy so yeah
[QUOTE=Suttles;38419638]what really pisses me off is MoM on drow
why[/QUOTE]
And MoM on Phantom Assassin to increase dps, not like she has a blink ability that does that or anything
Actually MoM is stupid on so many heroes
Not maybe the best choice to go AC as Outworld. Your pure damage just doesn't exactly give a shit about armor.
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Force/Shivas/Atos, all of which help him with being squishy.
But that's not unique at all.
This thread is great. I like breaking the norm, even in dota 2. What i like with shadow fiend is stack on items that give + to all stats, and put no points in the shadowraze, only go for raw damage.
And I like building drums on almost any hero because its the poorman's aghanim. +7 allstats AND 5%movspeed. and 4 stacks of +10% attack and move whenever you need it.
Drums are a crucial tool of start and mid game.
[QUOTE=godfatherk;38448165]>put no points in the shadowraze
>only go for raw damage.
[/QUOTE]
That's what I call counter-productive.
I was forced to build like a carry as Shadow Demon once, took a Manta.
Whatchu got on all these illusions m8
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fuck off lancer this is my town
[QUOTE=Outworld D.;38445152]Actually MoM is stupid on so many heroes[/QUOTE]
It is the best item Enchantress can ever pick up.
I just tried dendi style carry earthshaker in diretide a couple of times
go treads > drums > crystalis > shadowblade > daedalus
revel in da ~huge numbaz~
Bottle-rush Heavy Ganking Axe.
E/W/W/Q[I]or[/I]E/W/R/W/E/E/E[I]or[/I]Q/R/Q/Q/Q/S/R
Phase/Tranquil Boots + Bottle, run around the map eating fools for breakfast
[QUOTE=dual elites;38449267]I just tried dendi style carry earthshaker in diretide a couple of times
go treads > drums > crystalis > shadowblade > daedalus
revel in da ~huge numbaz~[/QUOTE]
A drum is a good item on virtually anyone though...
[QUOTE=Outworld D.;38445152]Idk if Assault Cuirass could be considered unique on Outworld but DPS for him is great and he's super squishy so yeah
And MoM on Phantom Assassin to increase dps, not like she has a blink ability that does that or anything
Actually MoM is stupid on so many heroes[/QUOTE]
I've gone AC on OD a couple of times. You don't go it because you reduce armor on enemies. You go it because it gives you shit load of attack speed and armor against other physical carries. Even though OD has a high agility gain (for an int hero) more armor on him actually makes him fairly tanky against physical damage. My build for OD nowadays is actually, Linkens to rod, to shivas and then AC. If I am stomping I would rather go Linkens to sheep to AC. You don't need to get extremely high intelligence on OD to do shitload of damage, you just need to get rid of your squishyness against physical attacks (bkb against magical) and you will rape any other carry, except maybe faceless (in certain situations you can win) and some strength carries.
[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;38459292]You don't need to get extremely high intelligence on OD[/QUOTE]
lol the whole point of OD is to stack intel
[QUOTE=Outworld D.;38459643]lol the whole point of OD is to stack intel[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, but it's kind of a waste since you will just pull of your ult and some right clicks and then die if you only stack intelligence.
But it's fun to do that and force staff out with 13 hp and live!
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38457898]Bottle-rush Heavy Ganking Axe.
E/W/W/Q[I]or[/I]E/W/R/W/E/E/E[I]or[/I]Q/R/Q/Q/Q/S/R
Phase/Tranquil Boots + Bottle, run around the map eating fools for breakfast[/QUOTE]
soul ring is way better on axe tbh
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