Centration - The paranoid, toolbox smashing and monkey throwing space station simulator - Games

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With such an intricate combat system, what would happen if I got shot? Would it be a 1 hit kill because if so guns would be terrible powerful.

[QUOTE=Canary;37336720][url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1206444&p=37333914&viewfull=1#post37333914[/url] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1206444&p=37333931&viewfull=1#post37333931[/url] Did you guys just say Unity is shit? Dead Snipe is an idiot so fuck him, noms I thought you would have known better than to call a free development kit that runs on PC, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, WII, Xbox360, PS3 and many other devices shit. Good luck seeing UDK doing any of that because it doest even have an asset store. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] I do like UDK too by the way, I'm just defending Unity too.[/QUOTE] ouch my e-pride

[QUOTE=Simples;37338755]With such an intricate combat system, what would happen if I got shot? Would it be a 1 hit kill because if so guns would be terrible powerful.[/QUOTE] It would depend on where you get hit, I imagine. If you get shot in the hand or something, chances are you won't die immediately.

[QUOTE=Confused111;37338856]It would depend on where you get hit, I imagine. If you get shot in the hand or something, chances are you won't die immediately.[/QUOTE] Shooting in 3D spess is easier than 2D spess so I'm not sure how exactly fair guns would be considering once you're dead, you're dead unless you've got a good security team and set of medics.

Ballistic guns aren't exactly common in SS13 anyway. For good reason too: kind of hard to balance bullets in a game with permadeath that's not supposed to be a [I]blatant[/I] deathmatch (jokes aside). Also bullets in space = nope.

shooting should be inaccurate as shit so you have to get up close, and even then every shot is a huge risk due to the loud noise and that but high damage shots so you can't survive taking a bullet to the chest without medical attention

A good reference to style (as you're discussing it above in terms of images) would be something like this: [img]http://www.benjammin.co.nz/Site/Images/scifi_13.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.benjammin.co.nz/Site/Images/scifi_15.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=noms;37339000]Sexy Pictures[/QUOTE] Dear god, I hope it's exactly like this. If it is I will die a happy man.

[QUOTE=DBFT;37335629]Can we get a little more info on how the security role will play out? What is there to security and what can they do other than harmbatoning players and farting on bedcuffed prisoner's faces?[/QUOTE] Security is mostly a passive role. Being an old-school security player myself, the major incentive is actually to NOT play security by making the other roles more attractive. Patroling is the biggest part of the job, and monitoring the on-station cameras is another big part of the job. The role is going to be completely responsive to what's going on in the station. We're really focusing on the situational gamemodes, more along the lines of power failures, evacuations, and the like, focusing on cooperative and contrived competitive gamemodes. [QUOTE=crd248] I think the reload should be something like press R and then it unloads the gun putting the clip in your inventory. To put in another clip you gotta go to your inventory/belt and doe something (can really think of something good) [/QUOTE] There is no actual inventory, and we're trying to limit on-screen HUD interaction. Inventory is handled through equipment slots. and numbered/lettered hotkeys. Jumpsuits have pockets, belts have tool slots, and you can equip holsters/pouches to belts. There are backpacks and toolboxes and the like, which extend carrying capacity. The biggest thing is that we want inventory to be handled on the fly, and equipment to be context sensitive, rather than having a cumbersome UI. Again, the reason that reloading is a little more extensive is because we're trying to balance combat mechanics, and keep the input scheme fairly complex. In the end, we feel that this is going to be beneficial to gameplay, and we're really going to consider changing it down the road during alpha/beta, but until then, nobody can really say much on the subject. It sounds overly complicated, I know, but once you play with our input scheme, I'm sure you'll agree that there is method behind our madness. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Canary;37336720][url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1206444&p=37333914&viewfull=1#post37333914[/url] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1206444&p=37333931&viewfull=1#post37333931[/url] Did you guys just say Unity is shit? Dead Snipe is an idiot so fuck him, noms I thought you would have known better than to call a free development kit that runs on PC, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, WII, Xbox360, PS3 and many other devices shit. Good luck seeing UDK doing any of that because it doest even have an asset store. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] I do like UDK too by the way, I'm just defending Unity too.[/QUOTE] Unity isn't shit insofar as what it is, but the render loop is slow and doesn't offer any sort of deep control. Unity has quite a number of problems with the way it handles rendering. Particularly, how it handles batching, and its awful floating point precision are some of the major problems with the engine. So, for us, the engine isn't desirable, seeing as it makes a lot of the features we want nigh impossible.

This thread just went full SS13. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] honke

[QUOTE=noms;37333625]Allow me to chime in here about the game that I have spent a few years working on, which (and yes, I have admitted it various times) was inspired by the ORIGINAL SS13 back in 2002, which I played, long before any of you "veteran SS13 super leet h4x" idiots started playing it, that I even helped develop for a long while, which I was a moderator of the community for originally on ss13.net and then ss13.org; and LONG before 'goons' and /vg/ and even Facepunch even heard of it. Now allow me to elaborate on Centration, what it is, and what it isn't, and WHY we're asking for money for it. Centration is a first-person horror-survival game set in a sandbox environment, inspired by the gameplay of games like SS13, Amnesia, Dead Space, and many more. Its features replicate that of any realistic multiplayer survival sandbox game - the ability to use anything, interact with your environment, combat, medical, etc. You may say we're "ripping off" SS13... no. We're using ideas that have been used in dozens of games. You think SS13 came up with Cryo-Cells? Do you think the developers came up with limb damage by themselves? No. Know how I know this? I was a developer for SS13. Now, let's imagine, just for a moment, that games were totally original, not based on any other games or any gameplay from existing games, and didn't borrow ideas from each other. Know how many games we'll have to play? About 20-40. That's it. Know why? Because nothing is fucking original any more. NOTHING. Lastly - we're allowing people to pre-purchase the game because they have ASKED to, not because we are "LULZ MONEY FROM PEOPLES FUCK YOU". And the reason why we're allowing people to pre-purchase the game, is because making a decent game, with decent features to a playable level requires MONEY, unless you would rather have this game come out in 2040 or something, because without money to subsidise development, that's what's going to happen. I leave you with this: Grow up, learn your facts, and stop being little dickwads. /bow EDIT: Oh, and for the record, I don't and haven't played on BayStation12 or any of the other stupid branches of SS13 after we released the source code years ago. Atmospherics wasn't Bay12's invention... SS13 STARTED as an atmospherics simulation (cellautomata)... again. Learn your facts.[/QUOTE] Nearly made a mistake of thinking to buy this game. Thanks for making me NOT get your game by saying this.

ok so lets just fucking stop whatever is going on lets get back to what the tread is THE GAME so... are you guys going to add dismemberment ?

[QUOTE=noms;37333625]Allow me to chime in here about the game that I have spent a few years working on, which (and yes, I have admitted it various times) was inspired by the ORIGINAL SS13 back in 2002, which I played, long before any of you "veteran SS13 super leet h4x" idiots started playing it, that I even helped develop for a long while, which I was a moderator of the community for originally on ss13.net and then ss13.org; and LONG before 'goons' and /vg/ and even Facepunch even heard of it. Now allow me to elaborate on Centration, what it is, and what it isn't, and WHY we're asking for money for it. Centration is a first-person horror-survival game set in a sandbox environment, inspired by the gameplay of games like SS13, Amnesia, Dead Space, and many more. Its features replicate that of any realistic multiplayer survival sandbox game - the ability to use anything, interact with your environment, combat, medical, etc. You may say we're "ripping off" SS13... no. We're using ideas that have been used in dozens of games. You think SS13 came up with Cryo-Cells? Do you think the developers came up with limb damage by themselves? No. Know how I know this? I was a developer for SS13. Now, let's imagine, just for a moment, that games were totally original, not based on any other games or any gameplay from existing games, and didn't borrow ideas from each other. Know how many games we'll have to play? About 20-40. That's it. Know why? Because nothing is fucking original any more. NOTHING. Lastly - we're allowing people to pre-purchase the game because they have ASKED to, not because we are "LULZ MONEY FROM PEOPLES FUCK YOU". And the reason why we're allowing people to pre-purchase the game, is because making a decent game, with decent features to a playable level requires MONEY, unless you would rather have this game come out in 2040 or something, because without money to subsidise development, that's what's going to happen. I leave you with this: Grow up, learn your facts, and stop being little dickwads. /bow EDIT: Oh, and for the record, I don't and haven't played on BayStation12 or any of the other stupid branches of SS13 after we released the source code years ago. Atmospherics wasn't Bay12's invention... SS13 STARTED as an atmospherics simulation (cellautomata)... again. Learn your facts.[/QUOTE] Again, something about high horses and stuff. Don't you have development to do?

C'mon guys, play nice.

Will you add ERP

Why am I having a Dejavu of when Terraria came out. You're acting just like those 12-year-old wanna be whiteknights that call every project shit if just has the absolute slightest connection to Minecraft. Stop judging this game for being inspired by another great game. No one is forcing you to buy or even look at it, so if you have nothing useful to say, then please, get out.

[QUOTE=VincValentine;37339760]Why am I having a Dejavu of when Terraria came out. You're acting just like those 12-year-old wanna be whiteknights that call every project shit if just has the absolute slightest connection to Minecraft. Stop judging this game for being inspired by another great game. No one is forcing you to buy or even look at it, so if you have nothing useful to say, then please, get out.[/QUOTE] white knighting is what you're doing we're black knighting at best

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37339766]white knighting is what you're doing we're black knighting at best[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to blindly defend the game. I think it's going to be good from what was promised us while you're relying on non-sensical idea that everything in the world has to be 100% original because apparently using something for reference or as inspiration means that you're stealing it.

[QUOTE=VincValentine;37339895]I'm not trying to blindly defend the game. I think it's going to be good from what was promised us while you're relying on non-sensical idea that everything in the world has to be 100% original because apparently using something for reference or as inspiration means that you're stealing it.[/QUOTE] uh yes, you are.

Then let me come into this as a "shut the hell up all of you" knight. I don't give a shit who copied what, did what, said what, fucked who for what, or who thinks things should be what. I wanna read a thread about a 3D space station survival sandbox, not a bunch of people complaining about who's right about unrelated bullshit. Now please, cut it out and drop it before someone "moderator"knights someone.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;37339917]Then let me come into this as a "shut the hell up all of you" knight. I don't give a shit who copied what, did what, said what, fucked who for what, or who thinks things should be what. I wanna read a thread about a 3D space station survival sandbox, not a bunch of people complaining about who's right about unrelated bullshit. Now please, cut it out and drop it before someone "moderator"knights someone.[/QUOTE] backseat moderator knight, what we're discussing is self plagiarism/plagiarism all together

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37339900]uh yes, you are.[/QUOTE] How so? Tell me, where in my argument against your behavior have I said that this is "teh greatest game evur" or anything at all? Stop trying to justify stupidity.

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37339931]backseat moderator knight, what we're discussing is self plagiarism/plagiarism all together[/QUOTE] Threads that end up like this spiral until someone gets banned for shitposting, flaming, or something else. I hardly think being sick of listening to your shit is backseat modding.

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37339931]backseat moderator knight, what we're discussing is self plagiarism/plagiarism all together[/QUOTE] I might get banned for this, but fuck off dead snipe. At first I somewhat sympathized with your "cause", but know I out-right wish you'd get banned. Your like that guy in the Skyrim thread complaining at that one mod (SkyRe). Whether you are "right" or "wrong" (although I do not believe in the concept of right and wrong) just leave it. You have made your point now move on. I have wanted this game for a long time, but SS13 didn't do it for me, I prefer experiencing all dimensions in a game like this as my immersion is heightened.

I wonder if Deadsnipe's dislike for this costing money and having a centralized server that stores character information is in any way due to how much harder griffing and ban evading becomes (what with licence bans and being shut off from the character server). [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=WarRage333;37339376]Nearly made a mistake of thinking to buy this game. Thanks for making me NOT get your game by saying this.[/QUOTE] Except he's right. Arrogant yes, but right (and honestly, act arrogant and you get an arrogant response, what'd you expect, I'd have done the same). One thing kinda pisses me off here more than it should, and it's that people that play SS13 are apparently as bad as CoD players in that anything that is in SS13, was invented by SS13. Cryo was not invented by SS13. Electricity was not invented by SS13. Atmospherics was not invented by SS13. Jesus Christ reality was not invented by SS13. You aren't ripping off CoD if you use a Abram's in your modern warfare game, CoD did not invent Abrahams. It doesn't have anything to do with Centration even, this goes for everything. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mbbird;37338935]Ballistic guns aren't exactly common in SS13 anyway. For good reason too: kind of hard to balance bullets in a game with permadeath that's not supposed to be a [I]blatant[/I] deathmatch (jokes aside). Also bullets in space = nope.[/QUOTE] Actually bullets in space would work great. No air resistance, no (or very low) gravity and you only need some oxygen. That doesn't matter though because it's all on a space station with oxygen, air and artificial gravity. Only real problem would be damaging the station, but I'd assume that larger stations in the future would be more like a normal installation than the ones we have now (with lots of wires everywhere and sensitive equipment).

Dead snipe got Conspiracy Keanu thinking: [IMG]http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6513/conspiracykeanu.png[/IMG] [sp]Made this one myself from scratch (barring the stock image) so that it complies with the rules. Uploaded to my imageshack account, so that it doesn't come from an image macro site. Just a disclaimer because I got banned before for not checking the rules first. This image macro was made especially for that reply.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37339766]white knighting is what you're doing we're black knighting at best[/QUOTE] No, you're dumb knighting. You come in a thread for a game you have no interest in, then troll the developer and shit up the thread. Leave this thread and never come back, Sincerely, Everyone in this thread

[QUOTE=acds;37340968]You aren't ripping off CoD if you use a Abrahams in your modern warfare game, CoD did not invent Abrahams.[/QUOTE] Before anyone asks, he's actually correct. Cod didn't invent the Abraham tank: [IMG]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1592/abramsp.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37341281]Before anyone asks, he's actually correct. Cod didn't invent the Abraham tanks: [IMG]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1592/abramsp.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Extra thin armour on the back of the turret making for a big weakpoint.