Centration - The paranoid, toolbox smashing and monkey throwing space station simulator - Games

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37332949] i hope this game crashes and burns signed, a known asshole and veteran from ss13 pulling this premium bullshit is not how ss13 works, and you really shouldn't even associate yourselves with it if you do.[/QUOTE] What the hell are you on about. Premium is just a preorder for the game with some bonuses that aren't written in stone and may change depending on what the community wants and suggest. The regular account is just a standard preorder. The devs have mentioned many times that while the game was inspired by SS13, it is not a remake and has its own story, setting and gameplay.

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333095]What the hell are you on about. Premium is just a preorder for the game with some bonuses that aren't written in stone and may change depending on what the community wants and suggest. The regular account is just a standard preorder. The devs have mentioned many times that while the game was inspired by SS13, it is not a remake and has its own story, setting and gameplay.[/QUOTE] are you trying to imply this game is original in any fucking way

what bothers me the most is that this is essentially capitalizing on the hard work of all the devs who have contributed to SS13 for free over the years and who never dreamed of charging for it.

you simply dont make a paid game as a first game as an indie dev especially if youre vagax

I haven't seen a snippet of credit to ss13 anywhere after a brief search on the website and on this thread. I agree with the recent comments, I made an account after lurking for ages just to be mad about this, it really rustles my jimmies that people would do this. The other ss13 remakes are great, because they label themselves that quite clearly but touting features ripped direct from ss13 as revolutionary business is pretty low, especially when the only thing people say is going to change is the "story" and how "serious" it's going to be. It probably wont be serious and the story is moot, who gave one about that in ss13 anyway.

[QUOTE=Ghostygoots;37333183]I haven't seen a snippet of credit to ss13 anywhere after a brief search on the website and on this thread. I agree with the recent comments, I made an account after lurking for ages just to be mad about this, it really rustles my jimmies that people would do this. The other ss13 remakes are great, because they label themselves that quite clearly but touting features ripped direct from ss13 as revolutionary business is pretty low, especially when the only thing people say is going to change is the "story" and how "serious" it's going to be. It probably wont be serious and the story is moot, who gave one about that in ss13 anyway.[/QUOTE] don't forget ripping off features and then charging an absurd $15 for them.

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333100]are you trying to imply this game is original in any fucking way[/QUOTE] Are you implying it has to be? Remember when everyone said "Oh, Minecraft is a ripoff of infinityminer" and then "Oh, Terraria is a ripoff of Minecraft"? What if people stopped working on anything because it wasn't completely original? Also, how can they be capitalizing on the work of those who worked on SS13 when Centration will be using a 3D engine and will have to completely rethink how the user will interact with the environment and other players. I mean Jesus, just the amount of new assets that will have to be created is insane. The only thing they can borrow from SS13 is the theme and a general direction for the sandbox and gameplay mechanics. Also, we have so little information about the game, why would you want it to fail. Can't we just wait until we have more info before we criticize it?

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333208]Are you implying it has to be? Remember when everyone said "Oh, Minecraft is a ripoff of infinityminer" and then "Oh, Terraria is a ripoff of Minecraft"? What if people stopped working on anything because it wasn't completely original? Also, how can they be capitalizing on the work of those who worked on SS13 when Centration will be using a 3D engine and will have to completely rethink how the user will interact with the environment and other players. I mean Jesus, just the amount of new assets that will have to be created is insane. The only thing they can borrow from SS13 is the theme and a general direction for the sandbox and gameplay mechanics. Also, we have so little information about the game, why would you want it to fail. Can't we just wait until we have more info before we criticize it?[/QUOTE] premium accounts? medical, combat, gamemode, and airflow systems that are blatantly plagiarized from FREE servers and are now being sold to people who are willing to pay $25 for exclusive maps and gamemodes like this is some kind of EA game? i have more than enough info to want this to fail.

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333208]Are you implying it has to be? Remember when everyone said "Oh, Minecraft is a ripoff of infinityminer" and then "Oh, Terraria is a ripoff of Minecraft"? What if people stopped working on anything because it wasn't completely original? Also, how can they be capitalizing on the work of those who worked on SS13 when Centration will be using a 3D engine and will have to completely rethink how the user will interact with the environment and other players. I mean Jesus, just the amount of new assets that will have to be created is insane. The only thing they can borrow from SS13 is the theme and a general direction for the sandbox and gameplay mechanics. Also, we have so little information about the game, why would you want it to fail. Can't we just wait until we have more info before we criticize it?[/QUOTE] i'm fairly certain we can criticize it considering the price they're asking for it, and already planning to add premium bullshit before going gold Minecraft ripping off Infinityminer is moot, the only real fucking connection they had were building and destruction with a block system, this just straight off copies SS13.

So what, Quake is a Wolfenstein remake? Half-Life is a Quake remake? Medal of Honor is a Call of Duty remake? Are you people insane?

go play ss13 and you'll get it

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333241]So what, Quake is a Wolfenstein remake? Half-Life is a Quake remake? Medal of Honor is a Call of Duty remake? Are you people insane?[/QUOTE] you're not getting it, the connection these have is that they are fucking FPS genres this even has fucking cryo cells cleanly copied from SS13

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333266]you're not getting it, the connection these have is that they are fucking FPS genres this even has fucking cryo cells cleanly copied from SS13[/QUOTE] Are you for real right now. because you're acting retarded.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;37333275]Are you for real right now. because you're acting retarded.[/QUOTE] tell me how you felt when you got premium for free

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333241]So what, Quake is a Wolfenstein remake? Half-Life is a Quake remake? Medal of Honor is a Call of Duty remake? Are you people insane?[/QUOTE] okay so i have a game that is set on a space station, that has a simulated medical system with limb and organ damage, improvised weaponry with independently targeted limbs, airflow with gas mixture and explosive decompression, a science system that involves research, a station made up of component parts that can be destroyed, and gameplay that largely revolves around certain players being chosen as traitors who are then given special items and ordered to assassinate other players. which game am i talking about here?

[quote] "You’ll be playing with dozens of other players from all over the world, and their motives may be slightly different from your own… Maybe they’re assigned to kill you?"[/quote] this is original not traitor whatsoever it's a new gamemode

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333288]tell me how you felt when you got premium for free[/QUOTE] I uhh...didn't.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;37333318]I uhh...didn't.[/QUOTE] well something must be interfering with your judgment considering you're denying all arguments and just attacking my person instead of my arguments

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333336]well something must be interfering with your judgment considering you're denying all arguments and just attacking my person instead of my arguments[/QUOTE] [B]have you never played ss13[/B] shit

[QUOTE=Mbbird;37333352][B]have you never played ss13[/B] shit[/QUOTE] how is this related to me whatsoever i'm tempted to call you delusional allow me to give you my rebuttal [b]have you[/b]

[QUOTE=Mbbird;37333352][B]have you never played ss13[/B] shit[/QUOTE] obv he hasnt

[QUOTE=Tobba;37333250]go play ss13 and you'll get it[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333266]you're not getting it, the connection these have is that they are fucking FPS genres this even has fucking cryo cells cleanly copied from SS13[/QUOTE] I have played SS13, and I love it very much, but it's like you're trying to imply they're making a 1:1 copy of SS13 when simply the first person perspective and the 3D engine would make it impossible or inefficient to do so. Look, whatever, I would have thought that people like you would have been thrilled to have SS13-like game made by a dedicated dev team. I think it's unfair to give all the other genres a free-pass when it comes to borrowing mechanics, but now when it comes to borrowing ideas from SS13. Hell, I wish that instead of there being only SS13-like/remakes/clones, Space-Sanbox-Survival-Roleplaying Game would be a genre in and of itself. Also, SS13 borrows from so many tropes and actual sources that I don't know why you're complaining about Centration borrowing from SS13. Right now I just don't [I]get[/I] the vitriol you produce against Centration. Why does it matter that you can preorder the game now or later?

deadsnipe has definitely never played ss13 guys. just ask LLA, they've never heard of him.

or /vg/station or yogstation

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333392]I have played SS13, and I love it very much, but it's like you're trying to imply they're making a 1:1 copy of SS13 when simply the first person perspective and the 3D engine would make it impossible or inefficient to do so. Look, whatever, I would have thought that people like you would have been thrilled to have SS13-like game made by a dedicated dev team. I think it's unfair to give all the other genres a free-pass when it comes to borrowing mechanics, but now when it comes to borrowing ideas from SS13. Hell, I wish that instead of there being only SS13-like/remakes/clones, Space-Sanbox-Survival-Roleplaying Game would be a genre in and of itself. Also, SS13 borrows from so many tropes and actual sources that I don't know why you're complaining about Centration borrowing from SS13. Right now I just don't [I]get[/I] the vitriol you produce against Centration. Why does it matter that you can preorder the game now or later?[/QUOTE] what bothers me is that they are taking features made by people who never dreamed of charging for them (gibbed coders, /tg/ coders, bay12 coders) and recycling them into a sloppy Unity port and then charging you $15 for the privilege of experiencing something that coders on bay12 had been working on quietly for 6 months, and then have the audacity to trumpet it on the centration website like it's an original feature.

[QUOTE=Daggoth;37333393]deadsnipe has definitely never played ss13 guys. just ask LLA, they've never heard of him.[/QUOTE] Everyone knows deadsnipe has an autistic knowledge of SS13. What puzzles me is why he's not thrilled that someone is at least [I]trying[/I] to make a full-fledged game inspired by it.

[QUOTE=hayoye111;37333392]I have played SS13, and I love it very much, but it's like you're trying to imply they're making a 1:1 copy of SS13 when simply the first person perspective and the 3D engine would make it impossible or inefficient to do so. Look, whatever, I would have thought that people like you would have been thrilled to have SS13-like game made by a dedicated dev team. I think it's unfair to give all the other genres a free-pass when it comes to borrowing mechanics, but now when it comes to borrowing ideas from SS13. Hell, I wish that instead of there being only SS13-like/remakes/clones, Space-Sanbox-Survival-Roleplaying Game would be a genre in and of itself. Also, SS13 borrows from so many tropes and actual sources that I don't know why you're complaining about Centration borrowing from SS13. Right now I just don't [I]get[/I] the vitriol you produce against Centration. Why does it matter that you can preorder the game now or later?[/QUOTE] i produce lots of vitriol against overhyped remakes of free games that only cash in and get known due to the free game does that [I]explain[/I] it

[QUOTE=Dead snipe;37333362]how is this related to me whatsoever i'm tempted to call you delusional allow me to give you my rebuttal [b]have you[/b][/QUOTE] I don't know what you personally have against a better, UE3 engine version of SS13 that without the help of an outer party like this will [B]not happen[/B]. Hasn't for the past 3 years. Probably 4 or 5 but I haven't been with SS13 that long. Is SS13 even copyrighted or owned by anyone in particular? I really don't see why you're trying to push away a little something called PROGRESS. Byond is ancient. Games don't deserve to be made on it anymore, but that doesn't change the fact that SS13 is stuck on it until further notice. Until this at least, which you oppose fully for some reason. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] TBH I didn't want to get involved in this, and it appears I've actually made it extend to another page. Chill out.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;37333457]I don't know what you personally have against a better, UE3 engine version of SS13 that without the help of an outer party like this will [B]not happen[/B]. Hasn't for the past 3 years. Probably 4 or 5 but I haven't been with SS13 that long. Is SS13 even copyrighted or owned by anyone in particular? I really don't see why you're trying to push away a little something called PROGRESS. Byond is ancient. Games don't deserve to be made on it anymore, but that doesn't change the fact that SS13 is stuck on it until further notice. Until this at least, which you oppose fully for some reason.[/QUOTE] stop making shit up i have never said i'm against progress, i fully support remakes like [url]http://spacestation13.com/[/url] that are actually interested in making a new fun game out of SS13 instead of turning it into a cash cow

Wait a sec, why do I care? I don't have to argue with you guys. I'm not the dev team. I don't have to defend them, that's not my responsibility. I'm sure the dev are more than willing to defend their own project. Okay, well, I think you guys would find the project to be quite different from SS13 if you would read up more about it on their forum. I remain cautiously optimistic about the final game, and while I don't really understand your dislike for the project while it's such in an early stage, I respect your opinion.