This $60 for PC games crap has got to stop. - Games

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23786334]Just because the economy is in the shitter and the dollar is weak doesn't mean $60 isn't a lot of money.[/QUOTE] Yet it's no larger an amount of money than $50 was ten years ago, if anything, slightly less. You're complaining about the price being too high when, in reality, they're dropping ever so slightly. Hell, the console title markup has been worse in the past. You used to pay $70 for a fresh N64 cartridge, and that was in 1994 dollars. Equivalent today is $103, yet Sony's not expecting you to pony up for that despite having the most technically advanced storage medium of this hardware generation. They very easily could.

[QUOTE=junker154;23727101]Thank god there is steam.[/QUOTE] In most places outside of the UK and US Steam is even more expensive.

[QUOTE=_Junkie_;23720277]It is amazing how these $15 map packs sell so well.[/QUOTE] It's because a whole new generation of gamers got introduced to gaming through call of duty and the likes so they don't know there is better being offered and what is acceptable.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;23769334]Half-Life 2 cost $54.99 in 2004, which is analogous to $63.51 in 2010. The price of large budget games has consistently floated between $40-$70 for PC and console titles since 1994. So I'm not sure what you're calling bullshit on- that you've lived under a rock the last 6 years and never bought anything mainstream doesn't mean the prices aren't justified.[/QUOTE] I don't know how the prices were in the US but I'm gonna go and take a guess that that's the Gold Edition? That's a collectors edition and those usually cost more. Besides if we take it to euro's I've never seen any PC game cost more than 50 euro's 60 was reserved for the console games. And 60 euros for a single game? That's 78 dollars, now tell me that's a reasonable price for a game.

You think 60 dollars is much? Games in Sweden has costed almost 75 dollars for a long time.

[QUOTE=Hamsterman;23790357]I don't know how the prices were in the US but I'm gonna go and take a guess that that's the Gold Edition? That's a collectors edition and those usually cost more.[/QUOTE] I'm just going to be honest here and say that HL2 Bronze wasn't really worth buying (when IGN listed it as being the best of 04 they also said it cost $54, not $40), but sure, it cost you only $40 back then, which is $46 now. Budget titles are still budget titles. It's a moot point, because several other PC titles from 2004 retailed at $50. See: Sid Meier's Pirates, The Sims 2, Rome: Total War, World of Warcraft, Tribes: Vengeance, etc.

Up here in Canada i'm currently paying $80 for console games, with tax is close to $90. $60 for a PC game makes me happy [editline]01:40AM[/editline] Yay for British Columbia

$60 isn't a lot of money, especially when you're getting hundreds of hours out of a lot of those games. It sounds like a lot of you just buy too many shitty games, or just waste a lot of money.

I actually haven't bought and owned a game since Red Dead Redemption and before that Mass Effect 2 I think. Nothing is really worth it anymore. [editline]10:01PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;23787226]Yet it's no larger an amount of money than $50 was ten years ago, if anything, slightly less. You're complaining about the price being too high when, in reality, they're dropping ever so slightly. Hell, the console title markup has been worse in the past. You used to pay $70 for a fresh N64 cartridge, and that was in 1994 dollars. Equivalent today is $103, yet Sony's not expecting you to pony up for that despite having the most technically advanced storage medium of this hardware generation. They very easily could.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter it's still over halfway to $100 that's still ridiculous. Never had an N64, don't care. No they couldn't, no one would buy their shit. [editline]10:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lazor;23748300]don't buy the sequel until it goes on sale, don't buy the dlc if you don't want it holy shit that was difficult[/QUOTE] Yeah and the sequel will go on sale when the sequel's sequel is out and the DLC slowly becomes required for the best multiplayer modes (and in the case of Halo 3 ALL multiplayer modes) we can go at this all day man.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;23769334]Half-Life 2 cost $54.99 in 2004, which is analogous to $63.51 in 2010.[/QUOTE] When has Half Life 2 ever cost $50?

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23792695]It doesn't matter it's still over halfway to $100 that's still ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Stop putting your fingers in your ears and shouting NA NA NA NA NA CAN'T HEAR YOU. [i]How close the price is to $100 is [b]irrelevant.[/b][/i] The fact of the matter is [i]a PC game at $60 costs less than a $50 title did 6 years ago.[/i] That's not ridiculous in the slightest. That's fucking math. Inflation, read up on it some time. You want to talk about products with unfair markups talk about Christmas trees. [QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23792695]No they couldn't, no one would buy their shit.[/QUOTE] You say this in a world where the old NeoGeo console sold just fine with $200 games. [QUOTE=Erebus.;23792987]When has Half Life 2 ever cost $50?[/QUOTE] The year it retailed? [img]http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1494/hl2.png[/img]

So after reading this thread I went down to the local gamestop, looked at some price tags. MW2 for PC 959 NOK. Left 4 dead 2 for PC 899 NOK Infamous for PS3 799 NOK Left 4 dead 2 for Xbox 360 999 NOK And after running this through a currency converter I nearly shit myself. MW2 for PC 160.262 USD Left 4 dead 2 for PC 150.227 USD Infamous for PS3 133.517 USD Left 4 dead 2 for Xbox 360 166.931 USD Also why do all game stores put their prices at 99 woopde fucking do, we saved one kroner on that. Yeah so norway, not the best place to buy your games.

SC2 for 60 dollars? only in america my local electronics store sells it for 100.9 dollars.

[QUOTE=markfu;23720212]It won't fade until the $60 console games fade, which is probably never.[/QUOTE] No, it won't fade until pc gamers stop buying $60 games.

The only games I've bought in the last year on release day or preordered have been Empire Total War (that was a mistake), Left 4 Dead 2, and Red Dead Redemption. I've really lost touch with buying games compared to where I was a few years ago. Skipped Silent Hunter 5 (for the greater good, at least), Ballad of Gay Tony and all other Grand Theft Auto 4 expansion packs, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, and about a dozen others (including Bioshock 2, Battlefield: Bad Company, Heavy Rain) As far as this DLC bullshit is concerned, yeah, I'm not going along with it- and I'm not alone. They nickle and dime us to death on everything anymore. Oh you wanted a new map pack for COD? That will be $15. You wanted a new content pack for Red Dead Redemption that's got three new things in it? That will be $10. How about that new special unit for Napoleon Total War? It's only one unit that has a different uniform from the others, a special name, and some different stats than the rest (which you could have easily created on your own as a modification- oh wait, that's right: WE NEVER BOTHERED TO RELEASE ANY FUCKING MODDING UTILITIES LIKE WE PROMISED WE WOULD), but we're still going to con it off to you for $5 anyway. And you're stupid enough you'll buy it aren't you? It should be like the old days, when we had expansion packs that added dozens of new things for $20 or $30. Not just these tiny little "improvements" that easily add up to more than expansion packs would in terms of monetary cost in the end. It's just greed that's pushing more and more companies to adopt this new fad, and it's really not making them any new fans in doing so. Either you buy the DLC crap they throw out there because you are a fan, or you're a lax gamer like myself who just wants to have fun and never bothers with it. That's really how simple it is. It's sad to see how the gaming industry has degenerated so badly in recent years. The Happy Times are gone now for us older gamers.

Lately I've seen games on pc for about 25-35 pounds. Heck of a lot cheaper than most console games, half price at times.

[QUOTE=_Junkie_;23720161]especially when programs like steam cut out most of the middle man.[/QUOTE] Im sorry to say but Steam is the middle man Developer/Publisher | | Steam | | Consumer Thats how it goes :(

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;23793290] The year it retailed? [img]http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1494/hl2.png[/img][/QUOTE] Also remember that HL2 came with CSS. A $20 game. Not to mention I'd pay $5 extra just for all the sourcemods!

MW2 is still $60 where bc2 just dropped to $30, there is no real reason to buy mw2 anymore. [editline]12:08AM[/editline] And why are games so expensive outside the US/UK?

Lets go on strike?

The Day such a thing as Pre-ownded games exist..i might reconsider

[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;23859892]Also remember that HL2 came with CSS. A $20 game. Not to mention I'd pay $5 extra just for all the sourcemods![/QUOTE] Yes, and vanilla HL2 wasn't anything special. I mentioned that already. Along with the following. [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;23790835]It's a moot point, because several other PC titles from 2004 retailed at $50. See: Sid Meier's Pirates, The Sims 2, Rome: Total War, World of Warcraft, Tribes: Vengeance, etc.[/QUOTE]

Like some people said here, euros. Some games are almost 70€ and that's like around 90$, but thank god there's Steam :buddy: Well Steam just changes the currency without converting it... But still cheap!

Tsk complain about it, regular games on steam are 50€ (66$) but then there's the games like MW2 (just using it as an example) which are 60 fucking euro (80$) and no, games in europe are nowhere near that price usually.

[QUOTE=ventnor;23865087]Tsk complain about it, regular games on steam are 50€ (66$) but then there's the games like MW2 (just using it as an example) which are 60 fucking euro (80$) and no, games in europe are nowhere near that price usually.[/QUOTE] In Ireland almost all games are €60, even PC games. Though there are exceptions.

Pay an easy $100+ for a new game here in Australia, quit bitching.

I think it should be this way for sports titles. I can understand it for other games. They spend years developing the game, and working on it, then pushing it out. Sports games are usually a re-hash of the year before, with new features added. Occasionally you will get a new engine, and some really awesome new features. But titles like Madden are generally mostly the same, with a bit of new. And some new rosters. So essentially, every year, sports fans pay 60 for a new roster update, and possibly a really cool feature they love.

Luckily we still have the indie developers left :D

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/ykdv.jpg[/img] :eng99: [editline]04:53PM[/editline] In Australia we have it worse. $100-$120 for a popular/new release usually.

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