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[QUOTE=Shadow Angel;24059875]Trayarcy trayarcy[/QUOTE] Seriously? It's Treyarch. [editline]04:21PM[/editline] Also I like the game, it's very satisfying and enjoyable. I play it all the time with my dad, it's awesome. My Dad also plays online all the time so you can't say only 12 year olds play and before MW2 the only game he played for years was the original Call of Duty on PC. He is very good at it.

I can make due without dedicated servers on PC. :| Only major complaint I have are aimbotters.

[QUOTE=ZuXer;24056779]For the multiplayer, I hate that you need to unlock your guns, perks etc.[/QUOTE] Unlocking shit is like the BEST THING about MW2. It entices you to try out EVERYTHING and not just the easy stuff, so people actually use different weapons instead of everyone just running around with the exact same setup.

As much as I dislike it, I'd still play if from time to time if it wasn't for the horrible matchmaking system.

[QUOTE=Shadow Angel;24059875]Its very unrealistic and IW took nothing of the improvements Trayarcy made to WaW. Also the story is horrible you kill innocent russians and then they attack america with no question about the cia agent has the last 20 years of democracy been for nothing to me it sounds like a cold war fantasy. But I am looking forward to black ops I like they way trayarcy does things and i still play WaW.[/QUOTE] oh no! You kill virtual civilians! Oh the humanity! I make bigger massacres in GTA:SA. In a tank.

The only really good thing MW2 brought us is more Hans Zimmer music. That is all.

[QUOTE=analrapist;24060460]Unlocking shit is like the BEST THING about MW2. It entices you to try out EVERYTHING and not just the easy stuff, so people actually use different weapons instead of everyone just running around with the exact same setup.[/QUOTE] Though that still happens anyway. Kids who no-scope/ quickscope (i.e: ruin actual sniping with their shit) all use the Intervention with Sleight of hand and Stopping Power. Trolls all use the same overpowered guns like the UMP 45. New players stick to what they knew from previous games (like the M4A1), and other people just use whichever gun has a decent balance of damage/ firepower (usually the Scar-H or the oh so overpowered AUG). There is little real variation in loadouts when you actually look at what people use on average.

[QUOTE=ZuXer;24060735]oh no! You kill virtual civilians! Oh the humanity! I make bigger massacres in GTA:SA. In a tank.[/QUOTE] I enjoyed the mission lol but that fact is would a US CIA agent actually massacre russia civilians.

For me, the price was a bad point, high price, fairly average game. and campaign was bad..

*WARNING: EXTREMELY LONG POST AHEAD* ==What I like about it== -Camouflage. Blue Tiger and Arctic are my personal faves -Stealth Missions and TF141 missions (Cliffhanger and Endgame in particular) -Thermal Scopes (they help when my opponent NEVER uses Cold-blooded) -C4 (that stuff is noob-tube material in the right hands... or wrong hands, depends on how you look at it) -Shadow Company's uniforms, TF141 uniforms, Spetsnaz uniforms, most of the Militia's outfits (sweet shades on some of them), Juggernaut outfits (I'd love to go to a comic-con or something dressed like that, but I'd have to remove the Kick Me! thing), and Riot Shielder uniforms -Come on, who DOESN'T enjoy mowing down the Militia with akimbo G18s? I hate the gun otherwise, but that particular set is always fun for me to use -Snowmobiles, the boat in Endgame, the Blackhawk with a Minigun -Burger Town. Always makes me lol when I see it. Plus since I've stopped going to BK I can safely destroy BT's interiors without a second thought -Some shelves have Sherlock Holmes books in them (Sign of the Four to be exact) -Decent weapon variety (YAY! A Shotgun that's not a SPAS-12 for once) -The FAL. You can always say your opponent got owned with the slowest rifle in the game (it's nicknamed the FAIL for a reason but I still love it) -Makarov's awesome black suit -Kiril's blue suit (No Russian guy with Striker) -Good Sniper setups (I love sniping and stealth) -Juggernaut spec ops -Stealth Spec Ops (Hidden, Acceptable Losses, Evasion) -Splitscreen duels with intelligent friends & family -The Pit. I play that SO much in the hopes of beating my time -Price is like Indiana Jones. He never loses his hat ==What I HATE about it== -IT'S NOT WORTH $60! That is a price I would reserve for only the best of Valve games, and even then, it's pushing it -Occasionally lame AI -Not really well-put together storyline -Killstreaks (they disrupt splitscreen duels severely) -You get sick of seeing the same weapons AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. To this day I still hate even the mention of a SCAR-H or an AK-47 (both guns are just flat out ugly to me, even with cool camo) -Most of the cool weapons are in only a few missions at most (FAL, 1887, M1014, WA2000, FAMAS, M16A4) -I get sick of having to just wait around for what seems like 5 minutes to kill off one wave of enemies -Unskippable boring stuff (Foley's "Aim Down Your Sights" or the ice climbing in Cliffhanger) -No Russian. Fighting ridiculously tough riot police, I can do. Massacre an airport, I cannot do. I'd kill the 4 of them before I even so much as opened fire in there -The entirety of Team Player. The only thing I liked was Dunn's pun on history. In fact he, Price, and Ghost are about the only people I like in this game -Loose Ends, and I'm sure most of you know why -Exodus. That mission was just flat out ANNOYING -Most of the Ranger missions in general (except Of Their Own Accord and the aforementioned Pit in SSDD) -Your allies are usually kind of useless -HOW DID TF141 (or at least Soap) NOT GET PRICE'S PLAN IN CONTINGENCY? -Stupid little things like Dunn asking if Red Dot sights work after an EMP -Sick of seeing the SAME WEAPON IN CAMPAIGN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN (wait, I said this already) -Nightvision usually makes it HARDER for me to see in the dark, particularly when the Riot Shield's covered in dents from the entire wave of guards I just killed with little to no support from anyone on my team when THEY all had the guns and I had the shield -The explosions just don't look normal to me. Maybe I haven't been seeing many hi-res explosions... -Not like this is much of a con, but multiplayer animations are usually really off-sync with the viewmodels -SOAP. EITHER GET A HAIRCUT OR PUT THAT HAT FROM CLIFFHANGER BACK ON. RIGHT NOW BEFORE I HAVE TO SEE YOUR RIDICULOUS HAIR (I've never been a fan of mohawks, what can I say?) -Can we go 5 minutes without apocalyptic-looking explosions going off everywhere? The only ones I actually liked were the airstrike in Team Player and the one in Endgame -I don't enjoy fighting the OpFor. Bring on the Spetsnaz or Militia ANY DAY (nothing against Russians or Brazilians mind you, nor do I support the OpFor. i'm just saying they're my least favorite enemy faction. I never liked deserts anyway) -Shotguns are more or less useless in Campaign -LMGs are more or less useless, SMGs are more or less useless in splitscreen IN SHORT: Cons outweigh pros. The only pros are the unimportant or visual ones that either no one notices or would probably be laughed at. And I probably don't know what I'm talking about. I will never buy this game. That's what generous friends and uncles are for. They play it a heck of a lot more that I do anyway. It's fun for an hour at a time at most maybe. I'm not going to say "MW2 iZ TeH SuKz" but I will NEVER say "HAY GAIZ MW2 IZ LEIK TEH BEST GAEM EVA AND BOBY KOTIK IS AWSUM N TEH DLC IZ THE EPIK!1! U SHUD BY IT ITS WERTH TEH FORTYUNE U PAY 4 IT111! NOOBTUBING COMANDOES IS TEH BEST FITEIN STIAL EVAR! SO MUCH SKILLZ U NEED 2 DO THAT! IT TAKEZ TEH SKILLZ 2 EVEN LOOK @ DIS GAEM!11! WUT U DUN LEIK IT GO DIE U WERTHLES EXCUS 4 A HUMN BEENG GO PL4Y SUCKY TF2 N COUNTER STRYKE1!11!" I will personally kill myself if I EVER say ANYTHING like that, no matter how painful the result it. TF2 and CSS both beat MW2 any day, and they actually HAVE justifiable prices and good developers (not blaming Infinity Ward for MW2, I point the blame squarely at Activision and their cruel dictator Bobby Kotick. HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO PLAY THIS IN PERPETUAL PAYBACK MODE. EVERY ENEMY HE KILLS SHOULD DISSOLVE INTO A PILE OF CASH WHICH INSTANTLY BURNS BEFORE HIS EYES! just for people who don't know, when you get a Payback kill in MP lots of money flies off of your body as you fall to the ground) See what it did? It made me type like an idiot who never even took English class... or even a Facepunch class I'm betting. Or one with a functioning brain. Or a functioning mouth, because I know of no being that "speaks" (and I use that term lightly) anything remotely like that Apologies, Facepunch, for the ridiculously oversized and immense wall of text

What I don't get is why (at my school at least) If you play MW2, you are "cool" and if you play any other game, you are a "nerd" and "have no life"

as is the case with most people at mine. i admit i don't have much of a life though, and I embrace nerdiness

[QUOTE=BlackRainbow;24078109]What I don't get is why (at my school at least) If you play MW2, you are "cool" and if you play any other game, you are a "nerd" and "have no life"[/QUOTE] Because, people like them just play the game to have fun, while us played the game and recognized its flaws.

I actually play MW2 alot on 360. It's a good game if you imagine that the imbalances, amount of tubes, campers and everything else is all part of the expieriance. Unless your playing with IRL friends then you're going to get people obsessed with winning, getting kills and not dying. Most of the 360 Fanbase is around 10-17 with the occasional older blokes who are taking a break from CSS or whatever. Most of the under 14's which are the most common are morons, squeeking annoyingly into your ear hole about how mint they are or how they hacked 10th prestige. If you have a problem then just mute the little fuckers! Me and my friend usually just troll them by going onto their gamercard seeing if they have stupidly put their real name down, then calling them by petty names e.g. gay, fat, stupid etc It seems to work really well. The other side of the spectrum is the older kids, Im 15 btw, so that would be the 15 and above which is usually the better side of things. Most 15 year olds have matured enough to play the game without whining and bitching about tubers etc and actually just play the game. I think that MW2 is more of twitch reaction times and spacial awareness more than anything else e.g. knowing where the enemy will spawn, knowing when spawns have switched etc. Because you can have the best aim in the world, but that won't save you if the enemy has spawn behind you. [editline]09:40AM[/editline] Oh and to everyone complaining about price, I bought it from a friend for £15 about a month after release. M8sR8s rules.

[QUOTE=Shadow Angel;24059875]Its very unrealistic and IW took nothing of the improvements Trayarcy made to WaW. Also the story is horrible you kill innocent russians and then they attack america with no question about the cia agent has the last 20 years of democracy been for nothing to me it sounds like a cold war fantasy. But I am looking forward to black ops I like they way trayarcy does things and i still play WaW.[/QUOTE] It never was supposed to be about realism. It's Treyarch. Treyarch didn't improve on shit. If anything, they fucked up the running animations and the balance of the mp40. Who cares if you're killing civilians? It's a game. And there's this thing called "willing suspension of disbelief". It's Treyarch.

Battlefield:Bad Company 2 is much better than this overpriced piece of shit!

i personally really like MW2, however it did take a while to get used to it, with all these campers, and Heartbeat sensors and all that crap, however i did like the idea of throwing knifes, and the vast amount of new secondary weapons.

I personally like mw2 but it has a lot of bad points [LIST] [*]PC has no servers [*]Little kids [*]The fucking sniper [*]No team work in the MP [*]Over priced DLC [*]Hacks were available 2 hours after the PC launch [*]No Votekick feature [*]No global mute feature [*]Runs on VAC which does delays ban where PunkBuster does kick [*]Hackers on every server (or most) [*]Weapons are unbalanced [*]Knife kills instantly [*]Try Hard Knife Throwers [*]"LOL I TBAG U" [*]Chat spam [*]Colour names (GET'S REALLY ANNOYING) [*]Lack of good game modes [/LIST]

Say what you will about MW2, but you can't deny that it has an amazing soundtrack. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOFeNdv1sY&feature=related[/media]

No other variables, the game itself isn't that bad of a game, but it has done things like overpriced DLC, attracted a new crowd of "gamers" that we don't like, backstabed the pc gaming auidence, etc. I think Black Ops will be refreshing, especially the singleplayer. Just like with MW1, Treyarch had a sucessful engine and game to build off of. They looked at what people liked and didn;t like and tailored the game a bit. And besides, they have a celtic knot for a logo so they most be legit :buddy:

I really like MW2 overall, but if I hear anything close to "tango down", or god forbid "oorah" again, I am going to vomit.

[QUOTE=CounterTunes;24081409]I personally like mw2 but it has a lot of bad points [LIST] [*]PC has no servers[B] True[/B] [*]Little kids [B]True[/B] [*]The fucking sniper [B]Not exactly.[/B] [*]No team work in the MP [B]Also seen in almost every FPS multiplayer[/B] [*]Over priced DLC [B]True[/B]. [B]$30 for 5 maps is absurd[/B] [*]Hacks were available 2 hours after the PC launch [*]No Votekick feature [B]This is because of no dedicated servers[/B] [*]No global mute feature[B] False[/B]. [B]You can disable mic function on the 360[/B] [B]and PC[/B] [*]Runs on VAC which does delays ban where PunkBuster does kick [*]Hackers on every server (or most) [B]Only if you're unlucky. most of the time it's normal[/B] [*]Weapons are unbalanced [B]So does most FPS[/B] [*]Knife kills instantly[B] So does most FPS these days[/B] [*]Try Hard Knife Throwers [*]"LOL I TBAG U" [B]False. I rarely seen these. It's probably just you.[/B] [*]Chat spam[B] Increase screen resolution[/B] [*]Colour names (GET'S REALLY ANNOYING) [B]You don't play games to look at their name tag[/B]s [*]Lack of good game modes [B]What about search and destroy or demolition? You think other FPS have a lot of game mode[/B]s? [/LIST] [/QUOTE] These bad points you mention are also seen in other FPS games.

I don't hate the game, but I can't say I love it. For starters, its overhyped because of the comunity who got butthurt and thought it was going to be teh gaem of teh century and then found out it was full of problems. The comunity is also shit because it turns into a cesspool of morons who compare the game to reality and literally shit bricks because some army is using something that isn't used by said army in real life or something of the sort, which is fucking stupid since this is a game and if it were for those idiots and the army used twigs, we'd be fighting with twigs just because its realistic. Those problems are bugs (which have been mostly corrected), unbalance that makes alot of things exploitable like shotguns killing you 5 meters away or more, which then results in rage because of how easy it is to use it, gets corrected and then people rage because shotguns have an even bigger effective range in reality and don't really know what balance is. Then we got the over priced shit and DLC's, Activision's idea of making money. 50€/60$ for a game, and then 15/30€ more for only 5/10 maps that should have already been in the game AND even were in previous games. Not to mention some new ideas Kotick has been thinking of, but those aren't related to MW2 I guess... Then we have the worst about the game that is porting the game from PC to consoles. The PC version was basically stripped of its stuff for NO REASON at all, or a good one. Lean? Gone. Dedicated servers? Gone. In Cod4 with 100 ping, you could play without noticing a thing about lag. Killcams didn't show the horrible truth of having a 2 or 3 second delay in comparison to the other guy. Now, it looks like you didn't even shoot because of how lagged the game is. On top of that, you can't even choose what map you want to play... Seriously, what the fuck? You pay a shitload of money to play what they want you to play and play it with probably a bad conection because of the hosting and disconections. The story was ok, even though everyone speedruns it in veteran just to show off how good they are and then say the story sucks because they didn't understand it or because it didn't fit together, which is funny because I don't think they even play for the story... Still, the story isn't like the others. It doesn't feels like the other Cod's, and the whole game doesn't feels like the others did. Cod4's multiplayer is just, awesome. Simple, fun and solid. The only problem is having to run away from everyone or you'll die because of the goddamn martyrdom. It's hella fun to play 15 on 15. Airstrikes actually kill people, helicopters are something to fear and UAV's are actually usefull and helpfull. MW2's multiplayer is down to who has the biggest stick, just like Gen. Shepperd says... Get the guns and perks that make it the easiest to play with and you're set. Don't expect UAV's, because everyone walks around with the same killstreak loadout consisting of a harrier, a chopper gunner and a nuke, which most of the times you don't even get to see the harrier. So, yea it can be pretty crappy at times... Also, what's with people saying the game is full of hackers? Ever since it got released, I only saw like 4 or 5.

[QUOTE=dass;24082468]I don't hate the game, but I can't say I love it. For starters, its overhyped because of the comunity who got butthurt and thought it was going to be teh gaem of teh century and then found out it was full of problems. The comunity is also shit because it turns into a cesspool of morons who compare the game to reality and literally shit bricks because some army is using something that isn't used by said army in real life or something of the sort, which is fucking stupid since this is a game and if it were for those idiots and the army used twigs, we'd be fighting with twigs just because its realistic. Those problems are bugs (which have been mostly corrected), unbalance that makes alot of things exploitable like shotguns killing you 5 meters away or more, which then results in rage because of how easy it is to use it, gets corrected and then people rage because shotguns have an even bigger effective range in reality and don't really know what balance is. Then we got the over priced shit and DLC's, Activision's idea of making money. 50€/60$ for a game, and then 15/30€ more for only 5/10 maps that should have already been in the game AND even were in previous games. Not to mention some new ideas Kotick has been thinking of, but those aren't related to MW2 I guess... Then we have the worst about the game that is porting the game from PC to consoles. The PC version was basically stripped of its stuff for NO REASON at all, or a good one. Lean? Gone. Dedicated servers? Gone. In Cod4 with 100 ping, you could play without noticing a thing about lag. Killcams didn't show the horrible truth of having a 2 or 3 second delay in comparison to the other guy. Now, it looks like you didn't even shoot because of how lagged the game is. On top of that, you can't even choose what map you want to play... Seriously, what the fuck? You pay a shitload of money to play what they want you to play and play it with probably a bad conection because of the hosting and disconections. The story was ok, even though everyone speedruns it in veteran just to show off how good they are and then say the story sucks because they didn't understand it or because it didn't fit together, which is funny because I don't think they even play for the story... Still, the story isn't like the others. It doesn't feels like the other Cod's, and the whole game doesn't feels like the others did. Cod4's multiplayer is just, awesome. Simple, fun and solid. The only problem is having to run away from everyone or you'll die because of the goddamn martyrdom. It's hella fun to play 15 on 15. Airstrikes actually kill people, helicopters are something to fear and UAV's are actually usefull and helpfull. MW2's multiplayer is down to who has the biggest stick, just like Gen. Shepperd says... Get the guns and perks that make it the easiest to play with and you're set. Don't expect UAV's, because everyone walks around with the same killstreak loadout consisting of a harrier, a chopper gunner and a nuke, which most of the times you don't even get to see the harrier. So, yea it can be pretty crappy at times...[/QUOTE] holy hell! you just posted an 100 times better version of what i was about to post

[QUOTE=BLUCombine;24078006] -Occasionally lame AI [/QUOTE] There isn't any real AI. The enemies and team mates are just programmed to go somewhere and send bullets in your general direction.

The problem is morely that assholes ruin the game, by bein.. well assholes. I could play and like the game much more if it wasnt for playing with nothing but dickheads every round.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;24085508]There isn't any real AI. The enemies and team mates are just programmed to go somewhere and send bullets in your general direction.[/QUOTE] Isn't that what all enemies are expected to do in an FPS?

[QUOTE=Shibbey;24085508]There isn't any real AI. The enemies and team mates are just programmed to go somewhere and send bullets in your general direction.[/QUOTE] They do take cover, but only once they have followed their instructions of "move forward even if it means death". And even then they only take cover in certain places, even if that means shoving the player into the line of fire. FPS games need much better allied AI, the enemy AI is usually just fine at avoiding the player.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;24001930]Am I the only one who felt ''meh'' throughout the campaign?[/QUOTE] I actually thought the "No Russian" level was going to be in super bad taste and suck dicks. Then I played through the entire game. I now realize that you could skip "No Russian" entirely and not even miss a beat in the game. It doesn't bother me because it disgusts me (old reason), it bothers me because it's pointless (new reason). The campaign did an obligatory twist that the game literally tells you is coming, and people say "OMG THIS GAME IS ART THIS STORY IS AMAZING". No, it isn't. Some arcade games had better stories than this shit. If I were to discuss all the reasons I hate MW2... honestly, it would be a waste of a great deal of my time. The same idiots who think CSS and Halo are fun are playing MW2 and supporting this $15 map pack retardation, and there is literally nothing we can do to convince them otherwise.... so I'm just going to play BC2 and let the idiots have MW2 for themselves. That and I'm never buying a CoD game again. I can't believe I paid money for this shit.

Only reason I play is because my names Adolf Hitler and somones bound to get mad. It never fails.