Torchlight vs Diablo 2 - Games

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[QUOTE=Wombo194;23968494]Thanks but i got it working, just took awhile to load up for some reason. Thanks anyways.[/QUOTE] No problem.

Diablo 2 is amazing, torchlight is good but it'll never be as fun as diablo 2.

Diablo 2 wins solely on the fact that it has multiplayer currently. Playing both through single player, Torchlight is a better, easier to get into, fun solo experience. It also is new gamer friendly, which I'm sure many of you would argue diablo 2 is more hardcore, therefor better, but for someone who encourages his girlfriend to game, I highly appreciate this fact. She actually enjoys and plays the copy of torchlight I bought her(cheap on sale btw) on her own free time. Torchlight gets major kudos for that. [QUOTE=BANNED USER;23930195]Diablo 2, anyone who thinks otherwise can kill themselves.[/QUOTE] Anyone who can't respect others personal opinions can go kill themselves as far as I'm concerned. Both games have their pros and cons, deal with it.

People act like the only advantage Diablo 2 has is multiplayer. Never mind the fact that it's longer, more challenging, has more items, has more classes, has a wider variety of skills, and has many more monsters. Obviously the only reason anyone could like it is for the multiplayer.

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;23974767]People act like the only advantage Diablo 2 has is multiplayer. Never mind the fact that it's longer, more challenging, has more items, has more classes, has a wider variety of skills, and has many more monsters. Obviously the only reason anyone could like it is for the multiplayer.[/QUOTE] Yeah. Exactly.

The people that are bad at Diablo II drool over Torchlight. The people that are good at Diablo II are bored by Torchlight. /Synopsis

Both fun.

[QUOTE=Levithan;23978584]Both fun.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed both and played both to death. Eagerly awaiting Torchlight 2 and Diablo 3.

I wouldn't mind if there were more classes to play in Torchlight.

[QUOTE=Rong;23978912]I wouldn't mind if there were more classes to play in Torchlight.[/QUOTE]Yep. However each of the three classes is like two classes. The Alchemist is like a Wizard/Necromancer, the Vanquisher is like an Archer/Assassin or Rogue, and the Destroyer is like a Barbarian/Paladin. I think Torchlight would've been better if the classes were pretty much that. Wizard, Necromancer, Barbarian, Paladin, Rogue, and Archer. However besides having more classes, it would've been better if Torchlight's classes didn't share any skills at all. Anyway, one of my favorite features is how unfixed the classes are though. My most recent demo character is a Dual Wielding Melee/Ranged User. (I picked up a Town Portal Spell AND Identify Spell in my travels too! :D)

I bet half of you didn't even play Diablo 2. Why chose classics just because they are classics ? :I

I prefer diablo 2

[QUOTE=Dbuhos;23979239]I bet half of you didn't even play Diablo 2. Why chose classics just because they are classics ? :I[/QUOTE] I bet 80% of those saying Torchlight never played Diablo 2 (or Diablo 1). [editline]08:06AM[/editline] Also for anyone still playing Diablo 2, here's a patch/mod that will enable 1280x1040: [url]http://www.moddb.com/games/diablo-2/news/d2multires[/url] There are other, possibly better ones around the internet though, just search a bit (I think I remember a 1920x1080 one somewhere).

I prefer Diablo 2 to Torchlight. All of Torchlight's dungeons felt the same to me.

I have played Diablo since its original release and Torchlight since its release. I think of gotten a bit of an idea formed.

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;23974767]People act like the only advantage Diablo 2 has is multiplayer. Never mind the fact that it's longer, more challenging, has more items, has more classes, has a wider variety of skills, and has many more monsters. Obviously the only reason anyone could like it is for the multiplayer.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ninja_Blue;23978401]The people that are bad at Diablo II drool over Torchlight. The people that are good at Diablo II are bored by Torchlight. /Synopsis[/QUOTE] Both games are equally simple, I'm not sure where this sense of difficulty in diablo 2 is coming from. Maybe when you first touched the game 10 years ago you had trouble grasping the concept of maxing 2 skills and using them over and over, but at this point both are relatively simple. My 67 necro never got higher because I got bored of sitting behind an unstoppable army while I literally did nothing but look for items to drop then running to the next group of mobs. The only difficulty came on hell(the difficulty, not the world) dealing with fire immune mobs outside the gate, causing my fire golem to have difficulty producing corpses to get out the rest of my army. Recently me and friends haven't been even able to level toons past world three, considering the outside area of world two combined with the entire world three together make the most boring and repetitive, unappealing grind imaginable. And as for length, item count, class and monster count, you are dealing with two separate entities. A more expensive, big label full price game that is still sold over counters in most stores for $40 in a battle chest is going to have more content than a $20 indie game that has been on sale on steam more often than practically any other individual game. You have to judge appropriately. Torchlight also has a endless mode for some added challenge and time sink. After beating diablo your basically left with boss runs, and doing the same boss over and over hoping for shiny loot to drop is far too reminiscent to a MMO for me to enjoy.

[QUOTE=Dbuhos;23979239]I bet half of you didn't even play Diablo 2. Why chose classics just because they are classics ? :I[/QUOTE] Everybody and their dog played Diablo 2 at one point or another. And people are probably choosing Diablo 2 beacause it's, y'know, incompareably better than Torchlight in terms of everything except the graphics.

[QUOTE=acds;23981477]I bet 80% of those saying Torchlight never played Diablo 2 (or Diablo 1). [editline]08:06AM[/editline] Also for anyone still playing Diablo 2, here's a patch/mod that will enable 1280x1040: [url]http://www.moddb.com/games/diablo-2/news/d2multires[/url] There are other, possibly better ones around the internet though, just search a bit (I think I remember a 1920x1080 one somewhere).[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that patch is not allowed if you're gonna play MP. Not sure however, it's just what I've heard.

[QUOTE=AnalisMorisette;24022410]Everybody and their dog played Diablo 2 at one point or another. And people are probably choosing Diablo 2 beacause it's, y'know, incompareably better than Torchlight in terms of everything except the graphics.[/QUOTE]To be honest I loved Diablo 2's graphics more than Torchlight's. Just because it was isometric. This is kind of random but still on topic: A point where Torchlight really struggles is the compatibility in general. Yes I know it was practically designed with the thought that people without Pixel Shader 1.1 could play at a a decent framerate on Netbook Mode but the problem with Torchlight (on Windows atleast) is that it uses some compression method that Windows hates or something and this can result in low framerates that really should not happen. (If you didn't know, to reduce file size Torchlight's content is all zipped up and is decompressed while the game is running.) However I shouldn't gripe as there is a fix which is duplicating the original Pak.zip file and uncompressing some stuff in it before the game launches. This increases framerates by a ton (25-35 FPS) and reduces loading times. Diablo 2 was (probably) uncompressed completely and this resulted in a hefty (for the time) 1.8(?) GB. However the game is playable on every system within the last 10-12 years. Really. I really don't know where I'm going with this post besides addressing random shit about both games. But I'll end it here: There is a cow level.

[QUOTE=Jabberwock09;24022308]Both games are equally simple, I'm not sure where this sense of difficulty in diablo 2 is coming from. Maybe when you first touched the game 10 years ago you had trouble grasping the concept of maxing 2 skills and using them over and over, but at this point both are relatively simple. My 67 necro never got higher because I got bored of sitting behind an unstoppable army while I literally did nothing but look for items to drop then running to the next group of mobs. The only difficulty came on hell(the difficulty, not the world) dealing with fire immune mobs outside the gate, causing my fire golem to have difficulty producing corpses to get out the rest of my army. Recently me and friends haven't been even able to level toons past world three, considering the outside area of world two combined with the entire world three together make the most boring and repetitive, unappealing grind imaginable. And as for length, item count, class and monster count, you are dealing with two separate entities. A more expensive, big label full price game that is still sold over counters in most stores for $40 in a battle chest is going to have more content than a $20 indie game that has been on sale on steam more often than practically any other individual game. You have to judge appropriately. Torchlight also has a endless mode for some added challenge and time sink. After beating diablo your basically left with boss runs, and doing the same boss over and over hoping for shiny loot to drop is far too reminiscent to a MMO for me to enjoy.[/QUOTE] Oh hooray, a boring grind of Torchlight followed by more boring grinding.

[QUOTE=Ninja_Blue;24029733]Oh hooray, a boring grind of Torchlight followed by more boring grinding.[/QUOTE]You seem to know a bit about Diablo 2 and Torchlight so I've got a question for you. I'm going on Vacation out in Oregon for a week (with no internet) so which game do you think I should purchase for the trip and after? I'm kind of leaning to Torchlight but Diablo 2's isometrics and multiplayer are very tantalizing also. What do you think?

[QUOTE=Ninja_Blue;24029733]Oh hooray, a boring grind of Torchlight followed by more boring grinding.[/QUOTE] Really. Quoting the entire post to counter a single point, ignoring the rest? I'm tired of coming back to this thread actually, suffice it to say both are great games well worth their respective price tags, and most people will find happiness in both. I do find some people get way to cranked up over games that are overrated, blindly defending them though. It's like trying to tell a FFVII fan you prefer a different one.

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;23954656]because older = worse m i rite[/QUOTE] Yes it is but that's not the point, my point is that after ten years they still can't make a Diablo clone better or even as good as Diablo II.

[QUOTE=FunkyHippo;23932760]Both are addicting, I'm not hardcore, just like plain casual fun and shit.[/QUOTE] Offtopic but how the fuck is your gif avatar not a bannable offense? As for the topic at hand, Diablo 2 is better imo.

[QUOTE=Kaphonaits;24038693]You seem to know a bit about Diablo 2 and Torchlight so I've got a question for you. I'm going on Vacation out in Oregon for a week (with no internet) so which game do you think I should purchase for the trip and after? I'm kind of leaning to Torchlight but Diablo 2's isometrics and multiplayer are very tantalizing also. What do you think?[/QUOTE] Diablo II definitely. Torchlight is so bland, the skills are so underpowered and rather boring. The story is almost negligible and the items are all the same with just a slightly better upgrade. Hell, all you have to do is get the 100% enchant addon and you don't ever have to replace your weapon. And @Jabberwock09, I "ignored" most of the post because it was all uneducated bullshit.

Diablo. Ever since my friend introduced me to it, I really liked the gameplay, the simple looting system, and the gameplay style of mass enemy destroying.

I didn't grow up playing Torchlight. :colbert: Diablo.

[QUOTE=AnalisMorisette;24022410]Everybody and their dog played Diablo 2 at one point or another. And people are probably choosing Diablo 2 beacause it's, y'know, incompareably better than Torchlight in terms of everything except the graphics.[/QUOTE] Well some people even like Diablo 2's graphics better. They're less advanced, sure, but the two games have different art styles which can still come down to a matter of opinion.

I picked up the first torchlight for like $2 during a steam sale, got about 20 hours of play out of it before it got boring, it helped me get over the summer drought of game releases. :v: Diablo 2 is better though imo.