Starcraft II Megathread V.1 'Hell, It's About Time' - Games

Oh alright then normal zerglings are fine.

Won my first game..

This patch fucking sucks, now I can't play offline, is anyone else having this problem?

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;24167611]This patch fucking sucks, now I can't play offline, is anyone else having this problem?[/QUOTE] yessir

Only you can help them. [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/firstaid.png[/img] [editline]03:16PM[/editline] It's a bad shop I know. I'm in a very uncomfortable chair at a new house.

[QUOTE=Dragon;24166517]Okay, just won my first match since I got moved into Plat. I need a ton of advice on this but I do know I was floating minerals for a while and that put me in a scary situation. What should I have been spending all my excess resources on? [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/dergooooon.SC2Replay[/url][/QUOTE] Diamond Toss player here. I have to say that your opponent was really not that good. In that first exchange between your roaches and his stalkers, he just let his stalkers get wailed on when he could've just retreated.Your opponent was just turtling up on 4 gates and a robo bay (which you cannot support full time on one base), you should have just taken the whole map to gain an advantage. And the weird thing is that he had a robo facility up the entire time, and one colossus could've lost you the game when he pushed and destroyed your natural. What I'd have to say is that you should have captured your natural much quicker when you saw that he was blocking off his base and doing whatever, because when that push comes you need the extra minerals to transition into whatever he has. When you have excess minerals like that, pumping lings is always a good option because they just do so much damage if you get a good surround, but you also have the option of just expanding everywhere also. What I would've like to see is you transitioning into roach/hydra, which is extremely difficult to deal with as protoss on only gateway units. The roaches just tank whatever damage the zealots do and the hydras are in the back doing crazy damage. Your macro with your spawn larva was just really off. Remember to spawn larva and pump roaches/lings. You also didn't have nearly enough drones. at the 11 minute mark, you had 25 drones off of two bases. That's barely enough to saturate one base let alone two. What I do as protoss is preemptively make a little more than 30 probes at my main, that way I can instantly saturate my natural when I decide to take it, rather than wait for probes to warp in. You had enough resources to end the game at the 15 minute mark easily by breaking through his back door and attacking both fronts but just didn't have the larva because you don't spawn larva fast enough.

To the guys arguing on the last 2 pages: You really can't say that an overseer costs 100/100 + the cost of the lair + the cost of the original overlord as opposed to the Terran player's cost of getting the upgrade plus spending energy on what could have been a mule. Let's look at the lair upgrade for example, it might be costly and a requirement for the overseer, but it's a necessary upgrade for many other things too, so you could say that it costs a lot but it doesn't only give you the option of making overseers but also the option of making a lot of other important units and structures. Now let's look at the Orbital command cost, this costs 150m but you can just think of it as scans when you need it + 250 minerals over 90 seconds when you've got excess energy. If you really wanna be thorough though you'd have to add to the equation the cost of the original buildings, the hatchery and the command center, 300m and 400m respectively, but wait, the hatchery requires a drone too, so that's another 50m, and that drone could have been mining some more, so that's another infinite amount of minerals. What I'm trying to say is that you can't just put these things in the equation and forget about everything else, I mean if in a 1v1 TvZ game both players wanted to get detectors ASAP, that is, they both tried to get a good number of harvesters and then upgrade their base and all that just so they can get detectors, that means that each player has about 10 workers, barracks/pool, overlord and overseer for Zerg and orbital command + 2 supplies for the Terran, and an extractor for the Zerg too (need gas for overseer) sounds like kind of a weird build order but whatever. Now they both have detectors, and supposedly the Terran player got his a little faster and cheaper, but it seems to me like the Zerg has a slight advantage, since he can build T2 buildings now. The Terran can build factory and ghost academy as well but usually by this stage he already has a factory or something, the Zerg can easily build a spiral now and maybe a hydralisk den, while the Terran will need to first build a factory, then he can either build a starport for flyers or a tech lab for the real stuff at the factory, and if he opts for a starport he needs a tech lab too if he wants anything other than vikings and medivacs. (Now that I think of it maybe I'm missing a few things regarding the Zerg player since I'm a newbie and usually when I play Zerg it's over before I get to the mid-game (awesome rushes)).

Kill this thread already. Also, donations are welcome to First Aid for Zerglings, we have now added support for Overlords without speed upgrades. Oh the humanity for these poor defenseless bloated flying thingy mabobbers.

I just joined a custom game. It was lurker defense. :gizz:

[QUOTE=matark;24169477]Diamond Toss player here. I have to say that your opponent was really not that good. In that first exchange between your roaches and his stalkers, he just let his stalkers get wailed on when he could've just retreated.Your opponent was just turtling up on 4 gates and a robo bay (which you cannot support full time on one base), you should have just taken the whole map to gain an advantage. And the weird thing is that he had a robo facility up the entire time, and one colossus could've lost you the game when he pushed and destroyed your natural. What I'd have to say is that you should have captured your natural much quicker when you saw that he was blocking off his base and doing whatever, because when that push comes you need the extra minerals to transition into whatever he has. When you have excess minerals like that, pumping lings is always a good option because they just do so much damage if you get a good surround, but you also have the option of just expanding everywhere also. What I would've like to see is you transitioning into roach/hydra, which is extremely difficult to deal with as protoss on only gateway units. The roaches just tank whatever damage the zealots do and the hydras are in the back doing crazy damage. Your macro with your spawn larva was just really off. Remember to spawn larva and pump roaches/lings. You also didn't have nearly enough drones. at the 11 minute mark, you had 25 drones off of two bases. That's barely enough to saturate one base let alone two. What I do as protoss is preemptively make a little more than 30 probes at my main, that way I can instantly saturate my natural when I decide to take it, rather than wait for probes to warp in. You had enough resources to end the game at the 15 minute mark easily by breaking through his back door and attacking both fronts but just didn't have the larva because you don't spawn larva fast enough.[/QUOTE] Good stuff, thanks. Yeah I saw the robotics thing and was wondering why there wasn't a colossus trampling my army by then. I'm getting better with expanding and queen macro, just won one against a real aggressive zerg player with that advice. Also I've started using nydus worms behind my attacking force for quick escapes and reinforcements. It's probably saved me thousands in army value just by popping units in there instead of running all the way back.

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;24170887]Kill this thread already. Also, donations are welcome to First Aid for Zerglings, we have now added support for Overlords without speed upgrades. Oh the humanity for these poor defenseless bloated flying thingy mabobbers.[/QUOTE] Kay I'm donating some Siege ta- where did your Zerglings go? :psyduck: WHAT HAVE I DONE?

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;24170887]Kill this thread already. Also, donations are welcome to First Aid for Zerglings, we have now added support for Overlords without speed upgrades. Oh the humanity for these poor defenseless bloated flying thingy mabobbers.[/QUOTE] I'm going to donate 500 minerals

Also why does our page limit only go to 3 more pages? Where's Aldaris when you need him we need more fucking Pylons.

[QUOTE=Novangel;24171267]Also why does our page limit only go to 3 more pages? Where's Aldaris when you need him we need more fucking Pylons.[/QUOTE] Eff that man Hierarch Artanis 4 eva

[QUOTE=Novangel;24171267]Also why does our page limit only go to 3 more pages? Where's Aldaris when you need him we need more fucking Pylons.[/QUOTE] We only need 15 more pylons, 14 now. Thank you for your donations, the siege tanks were a tad... harsh though. Thankfully we hired Dragoons with the lure of Aiur being located in your siege tanks, can you say pinata night?

My wife for hire

Once again some expert protoss player cannon rushes me, and actually locks me in my base (shameful, I know). Watch as he delivers his motivational, inspirational words in the heat of battle! [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/motivating_words.SC2Replay[/url] ps this replay contains sneaky nydus worms

[QUOTE=Dragon;24171585]Once again some expert protoss player cannon rushes me, and actually locks me in my base (shameful, I know). Watch as he delivers his motivational, inspirational words in the heat of battle! [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/motivating_words.SC2Replay[/url] ps this replay contains sneaky nydus worms[/QUOTE] Good lord I don't know why you're such a magnet for cannon rushes. I've never been cannon rushed when I 1v1 and only a couple times in 2v2.

I'd watch it but on my iPod :sigh: En taro Adun exeggutor we will donate some 100,000 vespene gas to repopulate the Zerglings-wait. [img]http://www.thetanooki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/070415exeggutor.jpg[/img]

I got cannon rushed once, I had 15 SCVs bum rush his pylons. Ruined his econ, than went over to his base and fucked it up. [editline]09:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Novangel;24171814]I'd watch it but on my iPod :sigh: En taro Adun exeggutor we will donate some 100,000 vespene gas to repopulate the Zerglings-wait. [IMG]http://www.thetanooki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/070415exeggutor.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] We shall use the money to save banelings! First Aid for Zerglings has Expanded to now include graves for Zerglings and Banelings, unfortunately we have yet to find a baneling body.

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;24171949]unfortunately we have yet to find a baneling body.[/QUOTE] At least they go out with a bang :patriot:

Is it xenomorphic cruelty if I graviton lift them? :tinfoil:

Just started reading the new Starcraft 2 book "Heaven's Devil's" Pretty good so far. Not that far in. Just got to the part where Jim joins the army.

[QUOTE=Novangel;24172296]Is it xenomorphic cruelty if I graviton lift them? :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] PETA's gonna get on your ass People for the Ethical Treatment of Aliens

Save them. [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/firstaid.png[/img]

Man I'm all up for some Muta-wings now. [editline]12:00PM[/editline] Also as a birthday present does anyone have a gif of the portrait of the thing in In Utter Darkness? Or portrait of Urun will do. 80x80 preferred. [editline]12:01PM[/editline] Gold soon, also holy fuck is that a homeless Zergling I'll help him into my Command Centre.

[QUOTE=Novangel;24172891]Man I'm all up for some Muta-wings now. [editline]12:00PM[/editline] Also as a birthday present does anyone have a gif of the portrait of the thing in In Utter Darkness? Or portrait of Urun will do. 80x80 preferred. [editline]12:01PM[/editline] Gold soon, also holy fuck is that a homeless Zerglings I'll help him into my Command Centre.[/QUOTE] He is indeed homeless. Please let him in. He promises he won't steal your things to pay for beer. Are you talking about the Dark Voice or the Abberation (centaur thing).

I don't understand how this guy even got 50 wins with protoss...He tried to mass void rays..but when I brought in my MMM ball he only had like 4 and several stalkers...it was pretty sad. I beat him easily.

[QUOTE=onox37;24173016]He is indeed homeless. Please let him in. He promises he won't steal your things to pay for beer. Are you talking about the Dark Voice or the Abberation (centaur thing).[/QUOTE] Well I assume the shadowy guy with red eyes is the Dark Voice. [editline]12:14PM[/editline] Come on in I disabled my planetary fortress. I think.

The funniest looking thing is when you are making an orbital command or planetary fortress and just cancel it. It goes back in like nothing happened.