[QUOTE=Goldenboy;29700170]
I dislike the idea of this 'emotional Garrus death' - aside from him being able to die at the end of ME2, it seems counter-productive to build up the death of a specific character, when the key theme behind the entire series is choice...[/QUOTE]
It may be something like the Virmire choice, but on a grander scale. You can save Garrus from something, but it results in the Reapers fucking up an entire planet of innocent people
[QUOTE=tommo400;29701764]It may be something like the Virmire choice, but on a grander scale. You can save Garrus from something, [B]but it results in the Reapers fucking up an entire planet of innocent people[/B][/QUOTE]
Depends on the species, [B]Turian[/B].
The Turians are my bros.
The Turians have a huge army and reverse engineered the Thanix cannon, they'd be a great ally. I'd hate to have to lose Garrus to gain them but it may be needed...
Turians have a love-hate relationship for me, while I'd be perfectly willing to exterminate the Asari, I'd be more content to cause the Turians to lose a couple important colonies (or if possible, Palaven) then to actually wish their entire species to die.
They need a massive wake-up call that they're no longer the big kids on the block.
The Turians as a species are a bunch of douches (Garrus is the ultimate bro, but he goes against most Turian traditions). But with the amount of ships and soldiers, they're a damn powerful ally to have against the reapers
[QUOTE=Saint Jimmy;29702357]The Turians have a huge army and reverse engineered the Thanix cannon, they'd be a great ally. I'd hate to have to lose Garrus to gain them but it may be needed...[/QUOTE]
The Thanix isn't really a superweapon, it just makes frigates have the same firepower as cruisers.
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[QUOTE=tommo400;29702738]The Turians as a species are [b]a bunch of douches[/b] (Garrus is the ultimate bro, but he goes against most Turian traditions). But with the amount of ships and soldiers, they're a damn powerful ally to have against the reapers[/QUOTE]
How so? Other than their arrogance?
[QUOTE=phaedon;29702994]The Thanix isn't really a superweapon, it just makes frigates have the same firepower as cruisers.[/QUOTE]
Then make it [b]bigger[/b] and install one on a cruiser.
[QUOTE=imadaman;29703436]Then make it [b]bigger[/b] and install one on a cruiser.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why. The biggest obstacle would probably be energy demand, But more space could be used for more reactors.
On that point, Why not build a huge maneuverable platform dominated with reactors and built solely for that weapon
[QUOTE=imadaman;29703436]Then make it [b]bigger[/b] and install one on a cruiser.[/QUOTE]
Well Sov's Thanix was bigger. (Insert "that's what she said" joke here)
I bet that they couldn't replicate it in it's exact size without more Reaper tech.
Btw, I just realized that Sovereign never fired his main weapon in ME1. And he took out half of the Arcturus fleet.
[QUOTE=phaedon;29702994]
How so? Other than their arrogance?[/QUOTE]
Well there are obviously exceptions, but the majority of Turians seem very arrogant and, for lack of a better term, up their own arses.
[QUOTE=tommo400;29704043]Well there are obviously exceptions, but the majority of Turians seem very arrogant and, for lack of a better term, up their own arses.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, most of the NPCs don't seem to be arrogant. Though I suppose that each councillor shows the character of their races, to an extent.
I wouldnt mind having a dramaticic garrus death, as long as it was well written. on the suicide mission if he died it didnt seem emotional at all but if he does die, and if its dramatic and emotional, i think it would be the perfect end to his legacy. Maybe somthing like a reaper core exploding.
a cutscene where you can see shepards life go before his as as hes going to die, but then it stops and you're falling of a podium in slo-mo, you look up and you see that garrus pushed you off. he stands there and a single tear falls from his eye. Then there is a massive explosion above.
think what happened to joshua in the world ends with you.
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The tear would probably have killed him itself though...
I hope I can sacrifice the Quarians for no reason at all. God how I hate them
[QUOTE=Scar;29704712]I hope I can sacrifice the Quarians for no reason at all. God how I hate them[/QUOTE]
I bet the Migrant Fleet is deep in Geth space in ME3 trying to take their homeworld, you'll have your chance.
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[QUOTE=phaedon;29704227]I don't know, most of the NPCs don't seem to be arrogant. Though I suppose that each councillor shows the character of their races, to an extent.[/QUOTE]
The friendliest Turians to humans are the ones that are forced to interact with humans, or don't follow their traditions very well.
Also remember it was Turian values that gave rise to both the Warden and Saren.
These are guys that unleashed the Genophage without a second thought and casually assaulted a species for breaking a law they neither never heard of, nor were informed of (did the Turians ever inform Humanity they broke intergalactic law?)
I got Live today so now that Cerberus code I've been sitting on is no longer useless! :buddy:
[QUOTE=phaedon;29699474]I take that you had problems with ME2's character presentation?
Yes, because "not vastly different" means "exactly the same".[/QUOTE]
Has nothing to do with subjective. Objectively the change staff had a direct impact on the game's storytelling. Full stop. No more, no less.
[QUOTE=phaedon;29704227]I don't know, most of the NPCs don't seem to be arrogant. Though I suppose that each councillor shows the character of their races, to an extent.[/QUOTE]
The councillor, the head of C-Sec, the Warden, even the nicer ones like Gavorn still have that air of superiority about them.
The only really nice ones are the blue collar guys like the Citadel Janitor and the Noveria mechanic, anyone in a position of slight power lets it go to their head.
Forgive me for forgetting the majority of their names.
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Also Saren, yeah that guy was kind of a douche too.
I still can't believe the Quarian-Geth conflict is still alive after 200 years. The Quarians are basically fucked without their homeworld and have to wear suits all the time. Yet they still remain stubborn and hungry for revenge. After more than 200 years. They accidentally created life and the perfect slaves suddenly wanted more from their life. Quarian reaction? Termination. Now I also learned that Geth actually felt some remorse for killing so many Quarians in the Morning War and keep buildings on the planet intact. If I have to choose between survival of one these races, I pick Geth without a blink of an eye. Why can't these fuckers swallow their pride and try to come up with a peace resolution. If I remember correctly, Geth don't even need the homeworld, yet they are cleaning it.
[QUOTE=Marden;29706092]I still can't believe the Quarian-Geth conflict is still alive after 200 years. The Quarians are basically fucked without their homeworld and have to wear suits all the time. Yet they still remain stubborn and hungry for revenge. After more than 200 years. They accidentally created life and the perfect slaves suddenly wanted more from their life. Quarian reaction? Termination. Now I also learned that Geth actually felt some remorse for killing so many Quarians in the Morning War and keep buildings on the planet intact. If I have to choose between survival of one these races, I pick Geth without a blink of an eye. Why can't these fuckers swallow their pride and try to come up with a peace resolution. If I remember correctly, Geth don't even need the homeworld, yet they are cleaning it.[/QUOTE]
Partial blame can be placed on the Geth for being so isolationist that no-one knows anything about them, partially on the heretics for giving all Geth a bad name and partially on the Quarians for not jumping on the offer once it was made to them.
Yeah if I have to choose between the 2, I'll let the quarians die
So, does anyone else think there should be more things like there were in KOTOR? You know, like there's a little kid that stowing away on your ship or someone accidentally screws up and puts a shipment of those frog things that hopped around on your ship, or an awesome space battle where you control the Normandy and have to shoot down opposing space crafts? I liked doing things like that and thought Mass Effect needed more extra things such as those. :v:
[QUOTE=Dr.C;29709326]Yeah if I have to choose between the 2, I'll let the quarians die[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, no contest. Quarians are culturally dead Organics, incapable of fighting, genetically and physically weak, are only specialised in AI and electronics to the point they saturate the market and overall are pretty damn useless.
Geth are the most interesting AI created. Their intelligence grew gradually like an organics instead of immediately like a traditional AI, they are numerous to the point of being their own species, they are self-sufficient and have developed many things in their own tangential direction. For AIs this is amazing stuff and that coupled with some very nice technology and the best manufacturing processes in the Galaxy, they are more than most organic species ever become.
Why do all these choices be...Pick who dies?
Also fighting other races on the Reaper Side sounds like a retarded plan for said race, they do know the Reapers will kill them or backstab them in a way later
It's more about making them actually send their fleet out instead of just sitting back and ignoring the conflict. Only Cerberus and husks are enemies, everyone else is just a dick.
I'm willing to bet that the explanation for Cerberus being bad guys is simply TIM getting indoctrinated.
I can't think of anything else really.
My guess is TIM has had a change of heart and sees [sp]humanity becoming a reaper[/sp] the best course of action. I'll explain why I think the reapers are good on the next commercial break
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29711038]I'm willing to bet that the explanation for Cerberus being bad guys is simply TIM getting indoctrinated.
[B]I can't think of anything else really.[/B][/QUOTE]
From the GI article we got for ME3, it's supposed to be some sort of big reveal, I'm certainly interested in seeing it.
Just completed ME1 for the first time...impressive. But Saren was a serious bitch of a boss battle. Died my first attempt, second time I put my team (Liara and Wrex) with the rounds that bypass shields, so I didn't have to worry about taking them down to get a half second to shoot him.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29711038]I'm willing to bet that the explanation for Cerberus being bad guys is simply TIM getting indoctrinated.
I can't think of anything else really.[/QUOTE]
Importing my character into ME2 and starting a second campaign, at the very beginning Miranda and TIM have a talk, and it almost sounded ulterior. Like the whole of the Battle of the Citadel was just a planned mission to get humanity on the scene, so that they could carry on with a bigger plan.
I made the mistake of having a team of Liara and Tali on my team during the final boss battle against Saren, with only 2 packs of medi-gel. After some trial and error, I just outfitted everyone's armor with healing upgrades and more appropriate ammo to the situation. Needless to say, it worked...and I had some medi-gel to spare, too.
I've also only played about an hour of ME2, and it doesn't really feel like a sequel so far. It feels more like an action-based shooter with the same worlds and characters of the first game, but the role-playing elements have been stripped down. Needless to say, I like it more than the first. The first one got to be a real snoozefest, especially on Noveria. And I'm so glad that I won't have to spend half the game in an inventory screen, changing upgrades and whatnot.
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