Mass Effect Megathread - GAVORN'S TRICKS EDITION - Games

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29099157]People said DA:O wouldn't disappoint. It disappoint. ME3 is going to be utter shit. I mean look at it! Anderson looks like he belongs in Halo, Williams looks like Miranda, and we have Thresher Maws taking down tiny reapers! Those things were supposed to be kilometers long and next to unstoppable in the first game! And now we have talk about CoD style gameplay mechanics. Round that off with a nice Deus Ex Machina ending, and we've got ourselves another MW2. Bioware is going the same way as IW. Down the toilet.[/QUOTE] People will always be skeptical. It will be fine. Mass Effect turned out to be fucking spectacular, this will only be the same besides, they can't be going IW, they're not chugging out repeatead sequels with no differences, Mass Effect is an amazing series. Don't be a pessimist.

[QUOTE=phaedon;29066455]Senior Marketing Manager says[/QUOTE] The fact they're screeching over a [i]preview[/i] reeks of desperation and neckbeard.

[QUOTE=God of Ashes;29099286]so are you trolling or are you for real[/QUOTE] Real, and on the verge of a nervous breakdown. My life has been bad for the past few weeks. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29095546] You can see Madagascar[/QUOTE] Obligatory Sir, its the Reapers, shut down everything post.

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;29098428]1. EA will override Casey Hudson's decisions if they don't like them. Also this different teams argument doesn't mean much considering designers, artists, etc can and have been switched to work on different teams. Its never the same team, and there's always management decisions made to change them. 2. Being out of Shepard's control is the illusion of choice. The same can be said to such a outcome where you killed the Rachni queen but yet you still deal with Rachni husks because there just happened to be other Rachni.[/QUOTE] Or, y'know, the Reapers may have a bunch of them in cryo somewhere (maybe abducted prior to the Rachni Wars) to use as shock troopers during planetary invasions. Hell, maybe they cloned thousands or millions of them after realising how deadly they were and huskified them all. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw long gone species that have only been mentioned in planet scans as husks fighting us. It'd make sense for the Reapers to have a pool of priorly reaped species to pick from to use as the bulk of their ground forces. More variation in how they can attack us, plus there's the aspect of psychological horror that it could inflict upon people. Would also make fighting on ground confusing because you'd have to be switching guns about a lot and would need to come up with new tactics on the fly.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;29095575]Uh [url]http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z331/wandless130/img038-2.jpg[/url] Yeah now he's a tough beefy space soldier too and Ashley is sexed up for NO REASON.[/QUOTE] Yeah! cause a guy wearing armor during WARTIME is fucking stupid, fucking stupid bioware. [editline]11th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Psychokitten;29099322]Real, and on the verge of a nervous breakdown. My life has been bad for the past few weeks. Sorry.[/QUOTE] Reapers come in various sizes, not up for debate; next.

[QUOTE=27X;29099359] Reapers come in various sizes, not up for debate; next.[/QUOTE] I never understood people shouting "REAPORS R 2KM LONG! DER R NO SHORT ONES!" We've seen TWO Reapers, there's no way for us to tell what size they're 'supposed to be'.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;29099445]I never understood people shouting "REAPORS R 2KM LONG! DER R NO SHORT ONES!" We've seen TWO Reapers, there's no way for us to tell what size they're 'supposed to be'.[/QUOTE] Actually if you wanna get technical we've actually seen like 5000 of them. It's just the vast majority of them were not near anything that we could accurately use as a basis for a size comparison.

[QUOTE=27X;29099359]Yeah! cause a guy wearing armor during WARTIME is fucking stupid, fucking stupid bioware.[/QUOTE] He should obviously be wearing bed ware. Armor during wartime is just silly.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29096798]Same with Awakening. The entire Dragon Age series has been fucked over basically, since EA was extremely surprised that people like games that don't have lasers or even guns.[/QUOTE] I thought the dialogue was the funniest in Awakening. DA: O was mainly serious asides from Alister and some comments from Oghren and DA2 tried too hard. [editline]10th April 2011[/editline] Also I hope they add more weapons into the game. While there's probably some standardization of weaponry when it comes to the alliance and cerberus, I'm sure each race has different weapon manufacturers and weapon styles. As the majority of these games involves firing weapons it'd be an interesting look into certain aspects and characteristics of each race. For example, the Krogan shotgun in ME2 establishes that Krogan's look/admire over-whelming power while giving up speed. Or how geth weaponry is sleeker and lacks rough edges or sharp corners.

Man, I am so fucking excited for this... gonna be a long 7-8 months.

Oh yeah and I hope we can toggle for corpses to remain on the ground in ME3. I always found it immersion breaking to kill someone and their body would disappear right when you looked away from it, even if you were standing on it.

[QUOTE=markfu;29099507]I thought the dialogue was the funniest in Awakening. DA: O was mainly serious asides from Alister and some comments from Oghren and DA2 tried too hard.[/QUOTE] Bioware admitted they were rushed with Awakening, I don't remember a specific article, but I've seen it said before that they were given what, 3-4 months to make an expansion for a game EA thought would only appeal to a niche market? Also Anders banter was amazing and all, but Oghren destroyed the serious nature of the Joining so much I just wanted to pull a Jory on him then and there. [editline]10th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=sltungle;29099335]Or, y'know, the Reapers may have a bunch of them in cryo somewhere (maybe abducted prior to the Rachni Wars) to use as shock troopers during planetary invasions. Hell, maybe they cloned thousands or millions of them after realising how deadly they were and huskified them all. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw long gone species that have only been mentioned in planet scans as husks fighting us. It'd make sense for the Reapers to have a pool of priorly reaped species to pick from to use as the bulk of their ground forces. More variation in how they can attack us, plus there's the aspect of psychological horror that it could inflict upon people. Would also make fighting on ground confusing because you'd have to be switching guns about a lot and would need to come up with new tactics on the fly.[/QUOTE] The Rachni's intensely xenophobic nature, as well as the fact they compound knowledge from queen to queen, probably means they were there at least during the last cycle. However I don't exactly remember Reapers choosing to put husks in cryo, it seems they usually just throw them away when they're done with them.

Come now, you should know indoctrination reduces the functionality of the subject making them a mindless husk. An indoctrinated slave cannot fathom the nature of the Reapers as they are even less capable than a normal organic. To properly channel the spirit of a Reaper one would have to communicate directly with a Reaper either through a controlled host or by other communication means.

No fuck you Bioware, why did you have to go and make Cerberus the bad guys? As if it wasn't bad enough that we had to fight reapers, now we have to fight a bunch of Boba Fett wannabes as well. Martin Sheen was the shit. We were bros. And you had to ruin it all.

[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;29100402]No fuck you Bioware, why did you have to go and make Cerberus the bad guys? As if it wasn't bad enough that we had to fight reapers, now we have to fight a bunch of Boba Fett wannabes as well. Martin Sheen was the shit. We were bros. And you had to ruin it all.[/QUOTE] [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lebcnjBMTG1qevf23.jpg[/img]

Nothing says they are the bad guys. I mean, yeah, they'll be the bad guys in the eyes of Shepard, but maybe they're trying to stop him because they think his means of stopping the Reapers will only make things worse or something like that, it could be just a conflict of ideologies.

It could be a Cerberus rogue group too.

It seems like TIM would obviously want to hunt down a Shepard that destroyed the Collector base. Giving it over, though, is the tricky part. Indoctrination, possibly, but TIM isn't the kind of person who would get up close and personal with the base. Bioware seemed to imply that there was a single reason, which would be even more strange. I guess we'll have to wait! Also, the prospect of melee weapons and melee combat sounds really awesome. One of those Cerberus assassins had what looked like a modernized katana, and there was a bayonet on one of the rifles. Biotic charge with melee weapons sounds like worlds of fun.

I'd love to know how, where and why the fuck is this kind of stunt happening. [media]http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8060/buttp.jpg[/media] I have a feeling that it's Kai Leng and somehow in the intro Cerberus takes over the SR-2 and you get a ride from the alliance to Earth. Where you crab the SR-3 later on. Still that picture is so confusing. I bet it's a romance scene in the end. :( Edit: Actually it's obviously someone escaping the SR-2 instead of coming in. Silly me.

[QUOTE=MiX-A;29100852]I'd love to know how, where and why the fuck is this kind of stunt happening. [media]http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8060/buttp.jpg[/media] I have a feeling that it's Kai Leng and somehow in the intro Cerberus takes over the SR-2 and you get a ride from the alliance to Earth. Where you crab the SR-3 later on. Still that picture is so confusing. I bet it's a romance scene in the end. :( Edit: Actually it's obviously someone escaping the SR-2 instead of coming in. Silly me.[/QUOTE]There was a sidebar that said you still command the Normandy SR2. However, the Alliance breaks it in by ripping into it's guts and making their own modifications, which will lead to "new rooms and places", according to the article.

I just got done with LotSB. It was worth it just for the videos at the end. They're great.

[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;29100402]No fuck you Bioware, [B]why did you have to go and make Cerberus the bad guys?[/B] As if it wasn't bad enough that we had to fight reapers, now we have to fight a bunch of Boba Fett wannabes as well. Martin Sheen was the shit. We were bros. And you had to ruin it all.[/QUOTE] -Sending soldiers to be killed by thresher maws, just to see what would happen -Torturing Corperal Tombs, experimenting on him using thresher maw acid and possibly more -Experimenting with Dragon's Teeth, turning people into Husks -Experimenting on Rachni -Experimenting on Thorian Creepers -Murdering Admiral Kohoku -Paul Grayson, just Paul Grayson -Experimenting on children on Pragia -Letting Shepard fall into a trap on a hunch -Project Overlord They're TOTALLY the good guys.

Most of what they did had good intentions. Cerberus has an "the ends justify the means" attitude, they don't torture and do stuff just for shits and giggles. They aren't "bad" or "evil," just very utilitarian. As a whole, that is. There's rotten eggs in every organization. For example, the guys going rogue on Pragia, it wasn't intended to be some crazy child torturing center. I'm sure the Alliance has its own share of guys that violate the average person's morals.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101070]Most of what they did had good intentions. Cerberus has an "the ends justify the means" attitude, they don't torture and do stuff just for shits and giggles. They aren't "bad" or "evil," just very utilitarian.[/QUOTE] Sending Shepard, the guy you just spent 2 years and billions of credits resurrecting, into a trap because you have a hunch is not utilitarian, it's fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101070]Most of what they did had good intentions. Cerberus has an "the ends justify the means" attitude, they don't torture and do stuff just for shits and giggles. They aren't "bad" or "evil," just very utilitarian. As a whole, that is. There's rotten eggs in every organization. For example, the guys going rogue on Pragia, it wasn't intended to be some crazy child torturing center. I'm sure the Alliance has its own share of guys that violate the average person's morals.[/QUOTE] The Heretic Geth had a similar view. Look where that got them.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;29101103]Sending Shepard, the guy you just spent 2 years and billions of credits resurrecting, into a trap because you have a hunch is not utilitarian, it's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] Um, if you would have paid any attention to TIM's reasoning, you would have realized that it was necessary. Shepard had to believe it was a trap. If he walked in there knowing what was going to happen, the Collectors would have been tipped off and wouldn't have allowed him to reach the database access point. Also, TIM was confident EDI would give Shepard the advantage, since the Collectors didn't know about her. It doesn't matter if you lean Paragon or Renegade, if you don't understand that what TIM did in that scenario was the best possible course of action, then you're not very smart.

It's also a good way to lose friends. People don't like being sent into traps.

Yeah, no shit. But it was fucking necessary. Are you that dense? How else were you going to acquire information from the Collector ship database? Fight your way all the way through to the access point, then fight your way back out? All while Joker tries to stay alive since the ship would be blasting at his ass? It was the best possible tactical decision. It allowed Shepard to get in there without any resistance, and bought them time getting out since the ship was pretending to be inactive and had to start back up.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29101179]It's also a good way to lose friends. People don't like being sent into traps.[/QUOTE] Friends are irrelevant when taking a course of action like that could cause the mission to fail. It was either make Shepard upset or be effective in their actions, I know what I would choose.