[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101205]How else were you going to acquire information from the Collector ship database?[/QUOTE]
Ask them nicely for it.
Duh.
I come bearing gifts.
Scans, much better, readable ones.
[url]http://gamegasm.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/first-information-and-screens-of-mass-effect-3-released/?preview=true&preview_id=2750&preview_nonce=387245d69c[/url]
Possibly late, but either way.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101070]As a whole, that is. There's rotten eggs in every organization. For example, the guys going rogue on Pragia, it wasn't intended to be some crazy child torturing center. I'm sure the Alliance has its own share of guys that violate the average person's morals.[/QUOTE]
The person who told use Pragia went 'rogue' was TIM, and he's spent half the game lying to you, seeing all the other fucked up shit he supported doesn't exactly increase my confidense that he's telling the truth. TIM MO seems to be:
-Pump shitloads of money into project
-Know no details so it's easy to cut them loose
-If the project fails, claim it went rogue and move on
Plus EVERYTHING we've seen him condone has failed in the end, possibly excluding Shepard and the Normandy, but if you betray him that fails too.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101154]Um, if you would have paid any attention to TIM's reasoning, you would have realized that it was necessary.
Shepard had to believe it was a trap. If he walked in there knowing what was going to happen, the Collectors would have been tipped off and wouldn't have allowed him to reach the database access point. Also, TIM was confident EDI would give Shepard the advantage, since the Collectors didn't know about her.
It doesn't matter if you lean Paragon or Renegade, if you don't understand that what TIM did in that scenario was the best possible course of action, then you're not very smart.[/QUOTE]
Best course of action based soley on what TIM tells you. HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING TELL EDI. She was almost compromised because TIM was overconfident.
I wont argue anymore. You've already shown that you support EVERYTHING Cerberus does in this thread and I don't want to rethread what we've already been through.
It was the best course of action regardless.
Wow, you're dense. Once again, Shepard and everyone on the Normandy [b]had to fall into the trap.[/b] The Collectors aren't stupid. What if they were monitoring communications? If TIM told EDI about it, she would have undoubtedly told Shepard about it and/or told them to be cautious. If the Normandy/Shepard rolled into the ship all cautious, then the Collectors would have been tipped off. Letting them fall into the trap was the only goddamn way to access that database, holy shit.
It goes both ways. You're so hell bent on making Cerberus out to be an evil organization that does evil shit for shits and giggles so it's no use arguing. Your logic against TIM/Cerberus is that they could simply be lying about everything. What a great logical reason to not even give someone a tiny benefit of the doubt.
Yes, Cerberus has fucked up. When you're pushing the envelope of research and trying radical things, you're bound to fuck up. However, they always have the greater good in mind. Disagree with their methods? That's perfectly fine, they use controversial methods to achieve goals. However, nothing so far supports the idea that they are evil and/or have bad intentions.
man this game sure is serious business
The only game in this entire section that people partake in absurdly serious discussions.
I hope Conrad Verner is in ME3.
[QUOTE=Rong;29101672]The only game in this entire section that people partake in absurdly serious discussions.[/QUOTE]
Bioware did a really good job making both sides of an argument equally arguable.
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[QUOTE=Zabe Aeiger;29101687]I hope Conrad Verner is in ME3.[/QUOTE]
Robo-Conrad 2185.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101628]It was the best course of action regardless.
Wow, you're dense. Once again, Shepard and everyone on the Normandy [b]had to fall into the trap.[/b] The Collectors aren't stupid. What if they were monitoring communications? If TIM told EDI about it, she would have undoubtedly told Shepard about it and/or told them to be cautious. If the Normandy/Shepard rolled into the ship all cautious, then the Collectors would have been tipped off. Letting them fall into the trap was the only goddamn way to access that database, holy shit.
It goes both ways. You're so hell bent on making Cerberus out to be an evil organization that does evil shit for shits and giggles so it's no use arguing. Your logic against TIM/Cerberus is that they could simply be lying about everything. What a great logical reason to not even give someone a tiny benefit of the doubt.
Yes, Cerberus has fucked up. When you're pushing the envelope of research and trying radical things, you're bound to fuck up. However, they always have the greater good in mind. Disagree with their methods? That's perfectly fine, they use controversial methods to achieve goals. However, nothing so far supports the idea that they are evil and/or have bad intentions.[/QUOTE]
See, this is why I hated arguing with you before. Your constant ad hominems. I don't agree that it was the best course of action, so I'm dense.
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Also, I don't try to make Cerberus out to be evil. They're cunts and I think TIM is probably the biggest twat in the galaxy, but they're not evil. If they were they'd probably support the Reapers.
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Also, also, did you not notice my avatar? William Riker, protoge to the biggest Paragon in Star Trek. Of COURSE I'm going to support diplomatic resolutions and judge renegade options.
[QUOTE=MiX-A;29100852]I'd love to know how, where and why the fuck is this kind of stunt happening.
[media]http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8060/buttp.jpg[/media]
I have a feeling that it's Kai Leng and somehow in the intro Cerberus takes over the SR-2 and you get a ride from the alliance to Earth. Where you crab the SR-3 later on.
Still that picture is so confusing. I bet it's a romance scene in the end. :(
Edit: Actually it's obviously someone escaping the SR-2 instead of coming in.
Silly me.[/QUOTE]
wow I just noticed that those are the captains quarters on the normandy
I think it would be great if the main endings boiled down to something along the lines of sacrificing Earth for the greater good of the galaxy (Paragon) or save Earth and screw over everyone else (Renegade).
Also it would be cool if they went over the top with semi expendable squadmates with a roster at least twice the size of ME2. It doesn't matter at this point if they live or die.
Of course, I'm being overly optimistic right here.
I bet it's the start of the game, where your invaded by Cerberus.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;29100402]No fuck you Bioware, why did you have to go and make Cerberus the bad guys?
As if it wasn't bad enough that we had to fight reapers, now we have to fight a bunch of Boba Fett wannabes as well.
Martin Sheen was the shit. We were bros. And you had to ruin it all.[/QUOTE]
[Sp] Cerberus was ALWAYS the fucking bad guys. [/Sp]
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[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29101628]It was the best course of action regardless.
Wow, you're dense. Once again, Shepard and everyone on the Normandy [B]had to fall into the trap.[/B] The Collectors aren't stupid. What if they were monitoring communications? If TIM told EDI about it, she would have undoubtedly told Shepard about it and/or told them to be cautious. If the Normandy/Shepard rolled into the ship all cautious, then the Collectors would have been tipped off. Letting them fall into the trap was the only goddamn way to access that database, holy shit.
It goes both ways. You're so hell bent on making Cerberus out to be an evil organization that does evil shit for shits and giggles so it's no use arguing. Your logic against TIM/Cerberus is that they could simply be lying about everything. What a great logical reason to not even give someone a tiny benefit of the doubt.
Yes, Cerberus has fucked up. When you're pushing the envelope of research and trying radical things, you're bound to fuck up. However, they always have the greater good in mind. Disagree with their methods? That's perfectly fine, they use controversial methods to achieve goals. However, nothing so far supports the idea that they are evil and/or have bad intentions.[/QUOTE]
Cerberus is evil because BioWare fucking SAID SO. Hahahaha, awesome that throughout your walls of text this very simple paradigm eludes you. They're [I]evil[/I]. They murder, they steal, they lie.
evil.
Taking your own wants above others' needs is the [B]ROOT definition of evil.[/B]
Next.
Hard to believe you're the same person from the pickup chicks thread...
[QUOTE=27X;29102377][Sp] Cerberus was ALWAYS the fucking bad guys. [/Sp]
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Cerberus is evil because BioWare fucking SAID SO. Hahahaha, awesome that throughout your walls of text this very simply paradigm eludes you. They're [I]evil[/I]. They murder, they steal, they lie.
evil.
Taking your own wants above others' needs is the [B]ROOT definition of evil.[/B]
Next.
Hard to believe you're the same person from the pickup chicks thread...[/QUOTE]
So why does my Shepard automatically have to side against them then?
Cause A renegade != necessarily evil
and B TIM doesn't use tools he can't completely control, as evidenced by like, like, oh his entire life.
You've served your purpose. If he can use lazarus to build endless troops along with reaper tech, why the hell would he bother with you?
C: You're assuming he wants you dead. Cerberus' arc and motive haven't been revealed yet, other than they are pursuing you.
D: Perchance TIM [I]does[/I] in fact, chooses to kill you, and you still want to side with Cerberus? K...
Cerberus is its' own organization, you don't control it or what it does. (that's kinda the point)
Alright, so I had finally gotten a nice enough computer in order to play ME and ME2, which I've owned for quite a while but didn't have the specs to play.
So, I played ME1 this entire past week...and I don't know if it's just me, but that game lost my interest entirely about halfway through. Combat was incredibly easy, color was washed out, side quests were boring and repetitive, driving lost me entirely, and I finished the game with a bad taste in my mouth.
I decided to play ME2 to see if I should continue with the franchise. And...I am.
ME2 has amazing art design, vibrant colors, incredible shooting combat that isn't super easy, more dynamic personalities, the list of good things continues and continues.
So, needless to stay, I'm really enjoying ME2. ME1 was one of the worst RPGs I've ever played, but don't let that fool you from enjoying the sequel.
just finished the suicide mission on insanity.
holy hell. ME2 on insanity is a completely different experience.
Damn my Shepard looks badass, Illusive man outfit, strong face, glowing eyes, almost creepy.
OH GOD HE'S BEHIND YOU!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/S6J4o.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;29102837]Damn my Shepard looks badass, Illusive man outfit, strong face, glowing eyes, almost creepy.
OH GOD HE'S BEHIND YOU!
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/S6J4o.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
post more pics of him
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29089759]Do you think TIM's encounter with [sp]Reaper tech[/sp] during the First Contact War is what prodded him to form Cerberus? Maybe Cerberus is just a big attempt at [sp]finding a way to take out the Reapers.[/sp][/QUOTE]
He formed Cerberus during/before FCW, at least [sp]before his contact with the relic[/sp], he just added another goal for them.
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[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29098314]Dragon Age Origins was an "accident" anyway, no one suspected it would be as popular as it was, and thus they probably didn't have it planned as a trilogy.[/QUOTE]
They still don't have it planned as a trilogy, from what I understand. Well, at least they haven't said anywhere that it would be only a trilogy.
[QUOTE=Pascall;29098075]aw fuck
now that kaidan's coming back, what's gonna happen when he realizes i'm with garrus
garrus better kick his pansy ass[/QUOTE]
solution: go back in time and tell kaiden to babysit the nuke in virmire.
[QUOTE=imadaman;29102894]He formed Cerberus during/[b]before FCW,[/b] at least [sp]before his contact with the relic[/sp], he just added another goal for them.[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? When did I miss this?
[QUOTE=Arvuti;29102877]post more pics of him[/QUOTE]
I got sex appeal.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/27vux.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Whatwhat1337;29102928]Wait, what? When did I miss this?[/QUOTE]
I forgot which. Point still stands.
[QUOTE=imadaman;29102962]I forgot which. Point still stands.[/QUOTE]
Which [i]what?[/i] I'm asking what the context is. Comic, novel, game codex? I'm reading Evolution right now and there's nothing to suggest he started Cerberus before the 1st Contact War, possibly during as his little guerrilla group during the war.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;29102941]I got sex appeal.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/27vux.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
And the face only a gorilla could love.
This is going to be fucking epic end of the 2011 year.
Also, I'd be grateful if some make a great 16:10 wallpaper from that:
[img]http://pics.livejournal.com/harmony15/pic/00005kht/s640x480[/img]
[QUOTE=Whatwhat1337;29102986]Which [i]what?[/i] I'm asking what the context is. Comic, novel, game codex? I'm reading Evolution right now and there's nothing to suggest he started Cerberus before the 1st Contact War, possibly during as his little guerrilla group during the war.[/QUOTE]
Point was that he [sp]formed Cerberus before his encounter with the Relic[/sp]
[QUOTE=imadaman;29103241]Point was that he [sp]formed Cerberus before his encounter with the Relic[/sp][/QUOTE]
Oh, well yeah. Is there a reason why that wouldn't make sense? The codex even describes Cerberus as a "human survivalist" group, which he of course would have started to resist the Turian occupation of Shanxi.
Yes but if you read Canuhearme?'s post that I responded to...
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I do not mean to offend you, Canuhearme?, and I apologize if I did.
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