[QUOTE=markfu;29099330]Obligatory Sir, its the Reapers, shut down everything post.[/QUOTE]
late but I had to
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[QUOTE=tommo400;29108892]:10bux: says they ruin the choice by making saving one Paragon and saving the other Renegade[/QUOTE]I think that if you didn't have enough paragon or renegade, or you didn't approach it intelligently, you would have to side with one or the other, like the loyalty fights. Seems like the perfect kind of situation for mass charming or intimidating.
[QUOTE=Terin7;29109164]I think that if you didn't have enough paragon or renegade, or you didn't approach it intelligently, you would have to side with one or the other, like the loyalty fights. Seems like the perfect kind of situation for mass charming or intimidating.[/QUOTE]
"99 % Paragon needed to save galaxy"
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;29109254]"99 % Paragon needed to save galaxy"[/QUOTE]
"Throughout every game."
the geth is making the death star
Do you think there will be a "You completely fucked up" ending where Shepard can't save the galaxy and everything goes to shit? Or will there only be endings where the Reapers are defeated but at higher and higher costs (like in the billions of lives degree).
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;29110256]Do you think there will be a "You completely fucked up" ending where Shepard can't save the galaxy and everything goes to shit? Or will there only be endings where the Reapers are defeated but at higher and higher costs (like in the billions of lives degree).[/QUOTE]
if so whats the point in saving/killing?
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;29110256]Do you think there will be a "You completely fucked up" ending where Shepard can't save the galaxy and everything goes to shit? Or will there only be endings where the Reapers are defeated but at higher and higher costs (like in the billions of lives degree).[/QUOTE]
Most of the races other than humans eliminated and humans genetically modified to reapers needs is a "completly fucked up" ending.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;29110256]Do you think there will be a "You completely fucked up" ending where Shepard can't save the galaxy and everything goes to shit? Or will there only be endings where the Reapers are defeated but at higher and higher costs (like in the billions of lives degree).[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's going to be like the Suicide Mission, only it's stretched out for the entire game, as in you could accidentally fuck up in the early parts of the game, but still succeed after making rational decisions in the later parts.
What do you have to do during the SM to get the [sp]ending where Shepard dies?[/sp]
[QUOTE=JesterUK;29110293]What do you have to do during the SM to get the [sp]ending where Shepard dies?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] dont upgrade the ships armor / weapons at all and dont get anybody loyal [/sp]
[QUOTE=JesterUK;29110293]What do you have to do during the SM to get the [sp]ending where Shepard dies?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Have nobody alive at the end.
Joker isn't strong enough to pull Shepard up when he grabs on to the Normandy, so he falls.
You can theoretically get that ending with some loyal squadmembers, if you pick them for the wrong jobs and take the ones with the most "final stand" points with you to fight the Reaper.
Wow you'd have to be a complete moron to get that ending unless you wanted to.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;29110293]What do you have to do during the SM to get the [sp]ending where Shepard dies?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Loose everyone except maybe one i think. That's harder then saving them
Wow, Triple ninjad in a space of 2 min
[quote]From what I read from the GI article, there is essentially 3 levels/tiers that squadmembers in Mass Effect 3 will fall under.
1st Tier: Your average squad member. They aren't all important to the story but they are there for whenever Shepard needs them. I think an example would be Jason Sanders.
2nd Tier: Your mission specific squad members. They won't be part of your traveling squad, but you will eventually run into them at some point in the game in which they will join you on a mission or two to help Shepard resovle something very important. I think Tali/Mordin might fall into this category. We might assist Tali in the mission regarding the Geth in ME3 and we might assist Mordin on the Salarian homeworld regarding the debate over the genophage. After the mission, they leave our party. I think an example would be Liara from Lair of the Shadow Broker. I think Bioware would use this 2nd Tier for ME2 squadmates/romances while they use the 1st Tier for brand new people that weren't ME1/ME2 squadmates. That way we can reunite with characters like Jacob, Thane, Jack, Samara, Kasumi etc....and help them out on a personal mission that could also benefit Shepard. Think of it as Loyalty Mission 2.0
3rd Tier: These are your essential squad members. These people are VERY key to the story in which the fate of the galaxy depends on whether you have them or not. They are part of your traveling squad but they carry more weight/relevance than your 1st Tier squad members in that by having these squad members in your squad, grants Shepard special access/resources. I am thinking that Ashley/Kaiden might fall into this category.
So long story short, we have one level of members who are just there for the adventure. Another level of members who have their own worries, but would ally with Shepard for one mission. Then the final level of members who are very key to Shepard success, almost nearly a plot device if you may say so.
I sort of like this, what do you think? [/quote]
I must have missed this in the article, but that's pretty nice, if it's true. Thoughts?
Also, Casey Hudson pretty much confirms that most squadmates will return either as permanent or temporary ones. Sounds good.
[QUOTE=phaedon;29110480]I must have missed this in the article, but that's pretty nice, if it's true. Thoughts?
Also, Casey Hudson pretty much confirms that most squadmates will return either as permanent or temporary ones. Sounds good.[/QUOTE]
Make tali 2nd tier = talimancers would rage.
Make it so Tali dies in the opening scene, like Pressley.
[QUOTE=tommo400;29108903][sp]my bet would be saving Quarians will be the Paragon choice, though I really hope it's left more morally ambiguous[/sp][/QUOTE]
Came into this chat late, but I think saving an entire species of people would kind of not be morally ambiguous.
But we'll see what happens.
Apart from the obsessed fans, Tali is a very interesting character, imo.
I practically complete 75% of ME1 and ME2 with her and Garrus. :v:
[QUOTE=JesterUK;29110561]Make it so Tali dies in the opening scene, like Pressley.[/QUOTE]
Yes, lets kill off a good character just for lulz.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;29110561]Make it so Tali dies in the opening scene, like Pressley.[/QUOTE]
Make it so she dies off-screen.
[QUOTE=phaedon;29110585]Apart from the obsessed fans, Tali is a very interesting character, imo.
I practically complete 75% of ME1 and ME2 with her and Garrus. :v:[/QUOTE]
she sucks in combat though.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29110589]Make it so she dies off-screen.[/QUOTE]
You can just see some of her foot as her body slumps to the ground.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;29110591]she sucks in combat though.[/QUOTE]
Every shotgun character is shit.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;29110581]Came into this chat late, but I think saving an entire species of people would kind of not be morally ambiguous.
But we'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]
The Quarians are whiny zealots who do nothing but fly around, steal from hard working folk, and then whine about how they lost their homeworld. The only politician who's sane enough to actually [I]think[/I] about ending the war is so unliked he was given command of the [I]Qwib-Qwib[/I]. The Quarians are as bad as gypsies with none of the charm.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29110623]The Quarians are whiny zealots who do nothing but fly around, steal from hard working folk, and then whine about how they lost their homeworld. The only politician who's sane enough to actually [I]think[/I] about ending the war is so unliked he was given command of the [I]Qwib-Qwib[/I]. The Quarians are as bad as gypsies with none of the charm.[/QUOTE]
The reason why most of the fanbase likes quarians is because of tali anyways.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29110623]The Quarians are whiny zealots who do nothing but fly around, steal from hard working folk, and then whine about how they lost their homeworld. The only politician who's sane enough to actually [I]think[/I] about ending the war is so unliked he was given command of the [I]Qwib-Qwib[/I].[/QUOTE]
They're a bit angry and naive. Sure, ( I think you'd be angry if you had to live on a ship your whole life, lost your home planet, and aren't allowed to colonize other planets, while being outlawed and outcasted. Sure, the geth were their mistake, but it's been, 200-400 years?) but are you telling me that justifies letting an entire species of people go extinct?
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[QUOTE=Arvuti;29110653]The reason why most of the fanbase likes quarians is because of tali anyways.[/QUOTE]
Which is pretty pathetic
[QUOTE=doommarine23;29110656]They're a bit angry and naive. Sure, ( I think you'd be angry if you had to live on a ship your whole life, lost your home planet, and aren't allowed to colonize other planets, while being outlawed and outcasted. Sure, the geth were their mistake, but it's been, 200-400 years?) but are you telling me that justifies letting an entire species of people go extinct?
[/QUOTE]
They aren't just a bit angry and naive, they're filled with this bloodlust to exterminate the Geth that borders on the maniacal, they certainly study the Geth but they've shown no desire to actually find a way to talk peace.
For 200-300 years.
As a species they're pretty weak; they can't eat normal food like the rest of the galaxy, but that's excusable since the Turians are much the same way. But then of course there's their immune system, which makes it impractical and downright dangerous to even [I]remove[/I] an article of clothing unless they start hacking up blood from an allergic reaction.
This would be all fine if they actually found ways to contribute to galactic society, which they haven't. Apart from creating the greatest threat to the Council since the Rachni, the Quarians have done little in the way of helping others, instead only helping themselves. Maybe part of the reason why people hate them is their strict adherence to staying with their own kind; Quarians may leave the Flotilla to siphon things from the rest of the galaxy, but ultimately they just stick into this closed loop system that just leads to them being the scavangers we know of in ME1-2.
It's like, they have no intention of helping others, and they've actively not done so for hundreds of years (instead sticking to this odd persecution complex along with moping over how no one will help them) so why should we help them? Even if we [I]did[/I] help them, and they found it in their hearts to actually help [I]us[/I], what could they possibly offer in return? All they have is sheer mass, their ships are crappy converted freighters designed to hold people, and we've already seen how disastrously bad their Marine Corps is (losing to both the Geth [B]and[/B] standard security mechs) so unless they're ramming their ships into Reapers, there's no reason to believe they have the competency to mount an offensive against even the Geth, much less the Reapers.
As much as I dislike quarians, I would still like to see Kal'Reegar return with a bigger role.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;29110845]As much as I dislike quarians, I would still like to see Kal'Reegar return with a bigger role.[/QUOTE]
Adam Baldwin is just too boss.
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