However, that doesn't stop the Reapers from forcibly taking him over via implants.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;29241673]Yeah, I think there was some theories that the [B]Prothean beacons and the cipher basically made Shepard resistant to indoctrination.[/B] Grayson was also pretty resistant, but as you said, he was addicted to Red Sand.[/QUOTE]
Saren used all the beacons and the cipher as well.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29241691]Saren used all the beacons and the cipher as well.[/QUOTE]
Saren also spent time in direct contact with Sovereign and was on the ship for a very long time. He also managed to stay away from the indoctrination until Sovereign gave him "upgrades" and it became too much for him.
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
The art in Evolution is as bad as ever. Here we see the female companion firing a deadly armpit laser.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/rnItV.jpg[/img]
Can someone post the picture, where the characters of ME are like drawn? Want it for my Steam pic. :smile:
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29241691]Saren used all the beacons and the cipher as well.[/QUOTE]
True, but Saren was indoctrinated beforehand, according to the novels. He sought out Sovereign, and then received the beacon.
[QUOTE=Gogo;29242121]Can someone post the picture, where the characters of ME are like drawn? Want it for my Steam pic. :smile:[/QUOTE]
Like my avatar or something else ?
Edit: Well, My last Laptop formatting seems to have deleted that image. I probably have it on a USB stick somewhere but i can't find it anywhere at the moment
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29241676]Not necessarily indoctrinate, maybe it will just play into how he's able to beat the Reapers (would be a cop-out, not really looking forward to it if it involves the implants.)
Also, would you say Shepard's magnetic personality during the events of ME2 is due to his strong will, a mild indoctrination effect caused by his implants, or both?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't necessarily call it a cop out. If Shepard's implants were the sole thing that brought the Reapers down I'd call it a [b]huge[/b] cop out, but I doubt that'll be the case. I'm sure he will use the implants to some extent to aid everyone against the Reapers, however. I mean, the tech is there, it'd be one of our few opportunities to use direct, unmodified Reaper tech against the Reapers (Collector tech is probably not as good as straight up Reaper tech for example), so why not use it if the chance arose?
And I'd say it's a combination of both. Shepard was already a charismatic, charming bastard. A slight indoctrinating effect on his behalf probably just boosts that.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29241691]Saren used all the beacons and the cipher as well.[/QUOTE]
You have to remember though that Saren was apparently in cahoots with Sovereign for a while prior to the events of ME1, and it's been established that a few days or weeks is all it took for Sovereign to exert his influence on you. Hell, the indoctrinated Salarians on Virmire were only there for a week or so weren't they?
The damage was already done before Saren even touched down on Eden Prime. Shepard, luckily, wasn't really around Sovereign for too long until the climax of ME1, and by that point he'd gone through the whole process of accessing the Prothean beacon (TWO of them), gaining the cipher, and learning what the fuck the Reapers were.
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
Wait, on the note of indoctrinated Salarians; that raises a point I've been bugged by for a while.
Does Mordin not claim to have written a paper on indoctrination or something during ME2? Which leads me to wonder: how the fuck did the Salarians manage to study indoctrination at all? None of the survivors seemed to show any signs of it. All they had to go on was the crazed chattering of the Salarians in adjacent cells who had unfortunately come under Sovereign's influence. And, even then, how did they know that the other Salarians simply hadn't gone mad?
The Salarian councillor seemed to be the only reasonable one of the three in ME1 (the only one I regret leaving to die (I mean, come on, he had a bad ass Jedi robe, too!), and he's the only one of them who expressed curiosity over the Reapers. Then, immediately after the Turian and Asari councillors shrug the Reaper threat off, the Salarian councillor does the same? A bit odd, methinks. Maybe the Salarian councillor told the STG to go off and do some research on the subject behind the councils back to be on the safe side and uncovered some info on the Reapers.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;29236984]I had that problem. You have to Select "Sterio Mix" in the Device button (Just under the darker middle square, To the right.) If it still doesen't work, Read this [url]http://www.mp3mymp3.com/faq.htm#devicevista[/url][/QUOTE]
The only device that pops-up from the "Device" button is my microphone. The link you sent me is for Vista, I'm running on Win7 if that has anything to do with it. Sterio Mix does not exist within my recording devices either.
It depends on your soundcard
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;29243675]The only device that pops-up from the "Device" button is my microphone. The link you sent me is for Vista, I'm running on Win7 if that has anything to do with it. Sterio Mix does not exist within my recording devices either.[/QUOTE]
It worked for me, Also on Win7 so try it anyway
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29241373]Part of me thinks that Shepard's Reaper implants will play into this, didn't [sp]Paul Grayson[/sp] get the same amount of implants and became a [sp]Reaper thrall[/sp] because of it?[/QUOTE]
No, [sp]Grayson[/sp] got Reaper nanomachines inside him, which turned him.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=sltungle;29242419]Wait, on the note of indoctrinated Salarians; that raises a point I've been bugged by for a while.
Does Mordin not claim to have written a paper on indoctrination or something during ME2? Which leads me to wonder: how the fuck did the Salarians manage to study indoctrination at all? None of the survivors seemed to show any signs of it. All they had to go on was the crazed chattering of the Salarians in adjacent cells who had unfortunately come under Sovereign's influence. And, even then, how did they know that the other Salarians simply hadn't gone mad?
The Salarian councillor seemed to be the only reasonable one of the three in ME1 (the only one I regret leaving to die (I mean, come on, he had a bad ass Jedi robe, too!), and he's the only one of them who expressed curiosity over the Reapers. Then, immediately after the Turian and Asari councillors shrug the Reaper threat off, the Salarian councillor does the same? A bit odd, methinks. Maybe the Salarian councillor told the STG to go off and do some research on the subject behind the councils back to be on the safe side and uncovered some info on the Reapers.[/QUOTE]
He didn't claim anything, he's published a report/book/study of Indoctrination.
[QUOTE=imadaman;29243965]No, [sp]Grayson[/sp] got Reaper nanomachines inside him, which turned him.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
He didn't claim anything, he's published a report/book/study of Indoctrination.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but then... how? Where was he getting his data from?
Unknown, possibly Evolution, Turians sent data to Salarians, or STG just stole it.
Well, they don't have to buy their own weapons after all.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;29234430]No idea, it might be the patch if I had to guess though. They were probably updating the Win7/Vista versions but left out XP (due to it being a decade old now), thus breaking it. Can someone confirm/deny this?[/QUOTE]
Ok, I reinstalled thinking that would help get rid of the patch, but now it just blue screens as soon as the splash screen disappears. The reason is apparently nv4_disp.dll. I'm pretty sure this has to do with my drivers, which I have reinstalled multiple times. Could it be due to my pc having an inadequate cooling system and overheating?
[QUOTE=Confused111;29245872]Ok, I reinstalled thinking that would help get rid of the patch, but now it just blue screens as soon as the splash screen disappears. The reason is apparently nv4_disp.dll. I'm pretty sure this has to do with my drivers, which I have reinstalled multiple times. Could it be due to my pc having an inadequate cooling system and overheating?[/QUOTE]
Highly unlikely. Like I said, it's either XP or a problem relating to your graphics card. I suggest going to your customer support first and seeing what they say.
I haven't played ME1 for a while, but what is the in-game explanation for STG being on Virmire?
[QUOTE=sltungle;29237807]EA's been doing a better job recently. I doubt they're back to their old micromanaging ways and forcing changes onto games being produced by them. Especially in the case of BioWare. I think they realise BioWare know what they're doing (ESPECIALLY with the Mass Effect IP) and are gonna leave them to do their thing.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
You keep talking as if you are the authority on Mass Effect and as if what you say is fact. You are not.
Truth is, we don't know what the Reapers goals are. We have had hints at their goals, but nothing has been outright confirmed. To be honest, I think it's gonna be a little bit bigger than JUST reproduction (although obviously they WILL facilitate reproduction if they have the chance. Why wouldn't you try to strengthen your numbers? Having an extra Reaper during each and every cycle would make things slightly easier). I mean, come on, as if the hints that dark energy causes premature ageing of stars WASN'T foreshadowing (especially given that mass effect technology works by manipulating dark energy).[/QUOTE]
They are doing a better job and yes, it's not like they have armed guards and dominatrixeseses with whips guarding the hotel, but things have been changed by the process and not all of it for the better. Moreover, EA isn't better because they decided to revamp their culture, they're better because they got caught, and you can pore over talks from folks from there and Visceral and see very clearly there a deadline-content bottom line mentality being fostered.
DA2 didn't turned into a exposition-by-cliffnotes version by accident, and If you think the ME team is somehow immune to the same logistics, well, here's your sign.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=phaedon;29249084]I haven't played ME1 for a while, but what is the in-game explanation for STG being on Virmire?[/QUOTE]
Genophage cure.
[quote]Maybe the Salarian councillor told the STG to go off and do some research on the subject behind the councils back to be on the safe side and uncovered some info on the Reapers. [/quote]
Rather likely. Not even the Shdow Broker was able to make inroads into the STG, and the councilor is curiously magnanimous to Shepard's claims.
But, I thought that the reason DA2 was considered as a bad sequel were mainly the design choices and not the fact that it was rushed?
So, I don't quite understand how a longer development window would somehow fundamentally change DA2 and make it a great game.
After all, if it wasn't for EA, Mass Effect 2 would have never happened, at least with these production values.
If it wasn't for EA then Mass Effect probably wouldn't have came to the PC.
[QUOTE=phaedon;29250165]But, I thought that the reason DA2 was considered as a bad sequel were mainly the design choices and not the fact that it was rushed?
So, I don't quite understand how a longer development window would somehow fundamentally change DA2 and make it a great game.
After all, if it wasn't for EA, Mass Effect 2 would have never happened, at least with these production values.[/QUOTE]
Maybe some of the gameplay and story choices that were implemented in the game were due to that fact that they had to rush it, Maybe they would have done it differently otherwise
Pure speculation
Shouldn't someone have pointed out by now that different Bioware teams work on Mass Effect and Dragon Age?
Actually the production values in the mockup were pretty stellar, and some assets far and away better than what we got in the finished product, and there's plenty of videos around to showcase that.
I'm not painting EA as the all encompassing overlord of product disruption, but again; it's not like ME somehow happened in a vacuum with EA simply throwing money at BioWare until magic happened.
DA2 was rushed, and it suffered because of it, and the devs and have said so, and there's not really anything else to say about it really, because it's rather unlikely EA's going to allow an expanded schedule on the next iteration. They want their milestones, they want them on time and they want them under budget. *shrug*
That's how commodotized video games work, even good ones.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29250391]If it wasn't for EA then Mass Effect probably wouldn't have came to the PC.[/QUOTE]
Mass Effect started on PC.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;29250523]Shouldn't someone have pointed out by now that different Bioware teams work on Mass Effect and Dragon Age?[/QUOTE]
I already did.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;29235879]DA2 was made by Bioware in Edmonton, ME3 is made by Bioware in Montreal. The two teams are completely seperate. They're almost 3,000KM apart.[/QUOTE]
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=27X;29250527]
Mass Effect started on PC.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Mass Effect is an action role-playing game developed by BioWare for the Xbox 360 and then ported to Microsoft Windows by Demiurge Studios. The Xbox 360 version was released worldwide in November 2007 published by Microsoft Game Studios. The Windows version was released on May 28, 2008, published by Electronic Arts.[/quote]
Try again.
Mass Effect was developed for the 360 and was then ported on the PC.
Well, since the only negative effect EA had on DA2 was the shorter development window, what is there to worry about?
Mass Effect 3 has been confirmed to have the same development window as ME2 multiple times, and seeing as ME2 changed almost everything in comparison to ME1, new -modification to the- engine, complete revamp of the shooter elements, better models, etc. I don't really worry.
PC versions of games like this are ALWAYS better IMO.
Soo, anyone out there played ME2 on the PS3??
[QUOTE=tommo400;29250811]Soo, anyone out there played ME2 on the PS3??[/QUOTE]
oh yeah, sorry.
i tried to reply 5 times but my ipod ran out each time.
you still get all the characters but no alternative chat options, just the basics. But you should get a PS3, MGS4 and all that. Anyway the're better in my opinion.
And please, no "xbox 1s w4y b3tt3r trollololololol!!!!111!!1111"
Yeah, if you have a PS3, I think that it would be a better idea to buy ME2 for it instead of the 360 or the PC. It has all of the DLC except for Arrival and it has slightly better graphics.
But if you already have ME2, then it's not really worth it, imo.
[QUOTE=jackattack;29250940]oh yeah, sorry.
i tried to reply 5 times but my ipod ran out each time.
you still get all the characters but no alternative chat options, just the basics. But you should get a PS3, MGS4 and all that. Anyway the're better in my opinion.
And please, no "xbox 1s w4y b3tt3r trollololololol!!!!111!!1111"[/QUOTE]
Because everyone who plays on a 360 is a blithering idiot.
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=phaedon;29251037]Yeah, if you have a PS3, I think that it would be a better idea to buy ME2 for it instead of the 360 or the PC. It has all of the DLC except for Arrival and it has [B]slightly better graphics.[/B]
But if you already have ME2, then it's not really worth it, imo.[/QUOTE]
Subjective, the textures are higher quality but PS3 doesn't support coloured lighting, which Mass Effect uses extensively.
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