[QUOTE=lettuce_head;22824712]Meh, I'd rather install the games.[/QUOTE]
Me too. Having a good computer and a physical copy is better than the service in any way.
However, the service could be good for those who can't afford a good computer or a good system. But then again you need a pretty good internet connection, which costs money.
Not being able to mod my game is painful.
I personally wouldn't use this, but it could be good for people who want to play PC games and don't have a good computer. It's a good concept but I don't think now is the best time for it and they should have waited a bit longer.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;22810475]Cloud gaming sounds horrible. I want to keep my games, and not have to worry about the company going belly-up.[/QUOTE]
Not a fan of STEAM I take it?
[QUOTE=Slasha00;22830031]Not a fan of STEAM I take it?[/QUOTE]
If Steam goes done you can play all of your downloaded games offline.
[QUOTE=Slasha00;22830031]Not a fan of STEAM I take it?[/QUOTE]
Not really. I love the prices they give on their games, but if possible I'd rather get a physical copy.
Plus, at least with steam you have all of the game's data on your computer. Hackers can get around drm (if steam didn't allow you to access your games after they went under), but its much more difficult if it is all located server-side.
For the life of me, I can't figure out how you WOULD even buy Onlive, the front page has no links that I can see.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;22830388]Plus, at least with steam you have all of the game's data on your computer. Hackers can get around drm (if steam didn't allow you to access your games after they went under), but its much more difficult if it is all located server-side.[/QUOTE]
Surely all hackers have to do is hack the main server/host to acquire all the data, which has a worse end result that hacking a lone user's computer data?
[QUOTE=Dr Bob;22830904]Surely all hackers have to do is hack the main server/host to acquire all the data, which has a worse end result that hacking a lone user's computer data?[/QUOTE]
If onlive went under, I doubt they would leave their server online. And "hacking" their host would be a tremendous task anyway. Certainly much more difficult than getting around garden-variety drm.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;22831056]If onlive went under, I doubt they would leave their server online. And "hacking" their host would be a tremendous task anyway. Certainly much more difficult than getting around garden-variety drm.[/QUOTE]
My bad, I didn't know you were talking about if online services went bust.
And you're right, it certainly will be a much heftier task.
This whole rent games thing, i dont like it. When i buy and download a game i want to get something, even if its just files on my pc instead of a case and a dvd, with this shit i just have my browser and cost.
You need a credit card just to participate in the free 12 months beta
To verify that you are over 18.
And if that's not the case I will sue their asses so hard for lieing on their ToS.
According to the fine print the only reason is to verify your age.
The only place I can see Onlive succeeding is at Internet Cafes in Japan
I just got into OnLive and played a couple demos. My verdict? I'm personally extremely impressed. I played through the Just Cause 2 demo and the Borderlands demo. Both ran pretty great, which impresses me because my network connection is total shit (my router sucks).
I don't own Just Cause 2, but I do own Borderlands and I can safely say that I'm disappointed that I didn't wait to buy it on OnLive instead. My computer isn't so hot with newly-released games, and Borderlands has some major problems, at least for me. If I don't run it at a very low resolution, it has some graphical issues that eventually result in crashing. Really sucks. Multiplayer is also an extreme lagfest for me, with large areas or intense battles dropping my FPS to extreme lows. I played through the General Knox DLC with friends and was barely able to do anything except stay behind the lines and offer support.
My OnLive Borderlands experience was great. The game looked beautiful with full graphics and full 720p resolution coming cleanly and smoothly over the streamed video. Controls were perfect and 1:1; it kept up with my mouse flawlessly. If there was any latency, I certainly couldn't feel it. I rushed through the demo doing as much as I could before my half-an-hour was up and it kept up with everything I did. I was able to blast through groups of enemies just as quickly as I could on the regular version.
Personally, I'm an OnLive believer. As long as your connection is decent, you can play PC games in high quality graphics. If they do this right, this could really catch on with people running low-end setups.
The only thing I really don't like is their payment plan system. You don't buy a license to play the game forever like you would on a service like Steam. They only promise that the game will stay on the service for a certain amount of time, and then after that it may or may not stay. I hope they change their minds on that one.
Just tried out Just Cause 2 on this platform with my 28 Mbit(3.3Mbyte) cable line. I had a decent amount of ingame delay, but the overall game performance and display was good. I wouldn't pay for this service on my current connection, but it does seem like a very good concept.
Also, Onlive never verifies your age, they just verify your card. So just enter in any random age over 18 and you should be fine. I accidentally inputted my age incorrectly by 1 year and didn't get caught for it.
I was able to signup and everything and it all worked while I'm outside the US.
I launched the application and THEN they noticed I'm not in the US. I tried using proxies but they don't seem to do anything.
Can I bypass/workaround this problem ?
Anybody have a pre paid credit card with like 1 cent on it that i could use to verify? I really want to try this.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;22888157]Anybody have a pre paid credit card with like 1 cent on it that i could use to verify? I really want to try this.[/QUOTE]
I was gonna shout NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, but then I figured you weren't Zips.
good luck with it.
I signed up a long time ago, and they told me to do the internet speed check, where i have to do a test everyday at around 9PM. Its been about 2 months, soo i guess im not going to get into the beta :(
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[QUOTE=Oblivion470;22888316]I was gonna shout NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, but then I figured you weren't Zips.
good luck with it.[/QUOTE]
I know, sorry 'bout the avatar. I got it from Zips anyway. I always liked Cyanide & Happiness.
[QUOTE=Fish_poke;22815141]My guess is that if they ever DO go out of business, they will reimburse you.[/QUOTE]
What WILL happen is that you would get a fraction of the actual money you spent, considering that they have other liabilities besides the customers such as loans, employees, assets etc.
I got invited to the free year of Onlive, I played pretty much all the game demos and I think that the service is pretty good for streaming games but when I tried to play online (UT3 for example) it would not connect to matches.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;22810303]Things like this, new technology, will take a while to develop. The only way they can develop this sort of thing is with money, money they won't have unless they get people subscribing. I see it as an investment in technological progression, more than anything.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain that's the exact opposite of how innovation in a capitalistic world works.
Wait a second?! you guys get a free game when you get accepted? how come i didnt?
[QUOTE=antme;22894549]Wait a second?! you guys get a free game when you get accepted? how come i didnt?[/QUOTE]
demos.
its a good has a addition. you keep ur favorite multiplayer games on ur pc with all ur mods and use onlive to play singleplayer games..
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