Why isn't there a PC port of Red Dead Redemption already?
105 replies, posted
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;29979911]
I don't understand what people mean when they say "dumb down."[/QUOTE]
Reduce gameplay mechanics to account for lack of keyboard/mouse, hardware and customization options.
Examples?
How many times have you decided to turn up AA on a console game, or been required to use finesse with a joystick on a typical mouse task (they have mild autoaim for a reason).
[editline]22nd May 2011[/editline]
Because a console is never as customizable as a PC, it necessitates removal, and thus, is dumbing down.
That's not saying that console users are all dumb.
[QUOTE=DeathFrogg;29979916]Because:
just looking at Grand Theft Auto IV's sales statiscts:
GTA 4 PS3: 7.96million
GTA 4 360: 8.84million
And the PC? Well:
GTA 4 PC: 0.69million (+ digital distrubiton makes it ~ 1.7-2mil)
Yeah. No way Rockstar is ever making a PC game again :(
Just in case anyone is still hopeful.[/QUOTE]
It came like halfyear later and everyone already played it through. Maybe if they released it same day or a week later, I bet there would be more sales. If I had a console, I wouldn't be waiting 6 months to play it on PC.
[editline]22nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Harry3;29975889]Crime solving whilst shooting hookers on drugs with unlimited parachutes and a colour pallet of brown and grey?[/QUOTE]
I was actually using JC2 as map size example :eng101:
[QUOTE=DeathFrogg;29979916]Because:
just looking at Grand Theft Auto IV's sales statiscts:
GTA 4 PS3: 7.96million
GTA 4 360: 8.84million
And the PC? Well:
GTA 4 PC: 0.69million (+ digital distrubiton makes it ~ 1.7-2mil)
Yeah. No way Rockstar is ever making a PC game again :(
Just in case anyone is still hopeful.[/QUOTE]
Again you need to understand that the PC market is small. 2 million for a PC title is pretty good. Also those figures are questionable since steam and other some other DDs don't release figures to the public.
I hope there's a PC port for LA Noire.
[QUOTE=Bluesummers;29978652]GTA 4 stresses the CPU more then the GPU.[/QUOTE]
sorry then.
wtf i cant max out gta 4 on my i7 2600k must be a shitty console port
[QUOTE=DeathFrogg;29979916]Because:
just looking at Grand Theft Auto IV's sales statiscts:
GTA 4 PS3: 7.96million
GTA 4 360: 8.84million
And the PC? Well:
GTA 4 PC: 0.69million (+ digital distrubiton makes it ~ 1.7-2mil)
Yeah. No way Rockstar is ever making a PC game again :(
Just in case anyone is still hopeful.[/QUOTE]
You do know that the PC version came like a year later, right? If it had came out at the same time, the PC sales would be at least triple of that.
[QUOTE=DeathFrogg;29979916]Because:
just looking at Grand Theft Auto IV's sales statiscts:
GTA 4 PS3: 7.96million
GTA 4 360: 8.84million
And the PC? Well:
GTA 4 PC: 0.69million (+ digital distrubiton makes it ~ 1.7-2mil)
Yeah. No way Rockstar is ever making a PC game again :(
Just in case anyone is still hopeful.[/QUOTE]
pc games sell much less than console games to begin with, there's just more people who play games on toys attached to their TVs, so sales of 2million are really very good, they more than recouped the cost of porting it and made a tidy profit, getting 20% of one of the biggest entertainment launches ever is a very large amount of money
[editline]22nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=simkas;29984764]You do know that the PC version came like a year later, right? If it had came out at the same time, the PC sales would be at least triple of that.[/QUOTE]
Probably not that much, but they would definitely have been higher. The fact remains though that those are great sales figures for a PC game and that Deathfrogg is just retarded.
Because Rockstar are faggots.
Rockstar is against mods, the reason they implemented MP in GTA IV was so that modders wouldn't have to mod it in.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;29974900]Why? it's true.
.[/QUOTE]
it might be true, it might not, the fact is that post was presented in such an awful way I'm inclined to disagree with anything that was said in it
[editline]22nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=koekje4life V2;29985378]Rockstar is against mods, the reason they implemented MP in GTA IV was so that modders wouldn't have to mod it in.[/QUOTE]
you're dumb
[QUOTE=koekje4life V2;29985378]Rockstar is against mods, the reason they implemented MP in GTA IV was so that modders wouldn't have to mod it in.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and that's why the MP was already in the consoles versions a year before the PC version. Those damn console game modders.
it's funny how everybody thinks GTAIV is a bad port, none of them have obviously played it since it's release date
shit runs perfectly smooth for me
[QUOTE=Armotekma;29985513]it's funny how everybody thinks GTAIV is a bad port, none of them have obviously played it since it's release date
shit runs perfectly smooth for me[/QUOTE]
It runs great for me maxed out too, doesn't mean it's not a shit console port. There's many games that look way better and run at double the framerate on my PC.
I don't get why rockstar got shit for hot coffee and yet bethesda doesn't get shit for countless sex mods for their games?
[QUOTE=Bluesummers;29965107]Rockstar north did work on the cinematics and casting if I recall correctly. But the game was mainly developed by bondi[/QUOTE]
You can see a lot of Rockstar's decisions for game design though like the chase missions having the runner on a rail with scripted events and the RDR lock on mechanic.
[QUOTE=edja007;29985607]I don't get why rockstar got shit for hot coffee and yet bethesda doesn't get shit for countless sex mods for their games?[/QUOTE]
Because the sex content was already in Oblivion and Fallout right?
[QUOTE=edja007;29985607]I don't get why rockstar got shit for hot coffee and yet bethesda doesn't get shit for countless sex mods for their games?[/QUOTE]
Hot coffee was already in the game, you just needed to flip a switch somewhere to activate it. Bethesda doesn't get shit for the sex mods because they're not in the vanilla game, though they did get a fair amount of shit when an unused skin for topless females was found in the Oblivion game files.
[QUOTE=nige111;29984260]sorry then.
wtf i cant max out gta 4 on my i7 2600k must be a shitty console port[/QUOTE]
wtf I maxed it on a 2500K
are you playing on like 3 screens or something
[QUOTE=eggman249;29975680]That would finally show the closed minded that PC truly is better than the consoles.[/QUOTE]
Nice job being close minded.
[QUOTE=markg06;29986658]Nice job being close minded.[/QUOTE]
I meant closed minded as in, the people that wont hear your argument at all and say 360 is better. If someone made a game using PC's max potential, it would prove that PC can deliver more.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;29958603]If they're publishing it then they can say no[/QUOTE]
Depends on the actual contract. Which I doubt we'll ever get to see.
[QUOTE=edja007;29985607]I don't get why rockstar got shit for hot coffee and yet bethesda doesn't get shit for countless sex mods for their games?[/QUOTE]
They did get to change there game from "T for Teens" to "M for Mature" because you could mod the top and have naked boobies.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;29986877]They did get to change there game from "T for Teens" to "M for Mature" because you could mod the top and have naked boobies.[/QUOTE]
No, that is incorrect. Bethesda games have never gone up in rating because you can mod them.
[QUOTE=Bluesummers;29996262]No, that is incorrect. Bethesda games have never gone up in rating because you can mod them.[/QUOTE]
He's right--the boobs texture was included in the vanilla files, so "modding" it in was really Bethsoft's fault.
I think increasing ESRB rating for games just because of unused content is a stupid idea.
[QUOTE=Wootman;29996834]I think increasing ESRB rating for games just because of unused content is a stupid idea.[/QUOTE]
But think of the children! I don't care if my son beats a hooker to death and sees an old man getting gunned down and his head exploded, if he sees two people humping each other his young christian mind will be tainted forever!
[QUOTE=Wootman;29996834]I think increasing ESRB rating for games just because of unused content is a stupid idea.[/QUOTE]
PEGI and ESRB rate based on the content found on the disk, it doesn't take whether the content is locked or unused into account because they couldn't be called impartial if they did and official regulators could be put in place if they weren't impartial. And anyone who reads comics know that government run regulation boards are a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Bluesummers;29996262]No, that is incorrect. Bethesda games have never gone up in rating because you can mod them.[/QUOTE]
He's right, kinda. The textures already existed in the game files so technically it was Bethesda's fault, though you did need to mod the game in some way to display it.
[editline]23rd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;29996895]But think of the children! I don't care if my son beats a hooker to death and sees an old man getting gunned down and his head exploded, if he sees two people humping each other his young christian mind will be tainted forever![/QUOTE]
it doesn't really make any sense; why are female nipples so much more obscene than male nipples, why is nudity so taboo, why is simulated violence somehow more controversial than actual violence, how come seeing a bare arse is more obscene than shooting a man's head until it explodes
western culture is prudish for no real reason, in mainland europe they have porn magazines with female nipples on the covers in the same shops as children's magazines and that continent hasn't exactly descended into anarchy
[editline]23rd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Legend286;29986588]Because the sex content was already in Oblivion and Fallout right?[/QUOTE]
actually it was
I'll reiterate: nipple textures
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;29997390]
western culture is prudish for no real reason, in mainland europe they have porn magazines with female nipples on the covers in the same shops as children's magazines and that continent hasn't exactly descended into anarchy
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I love living in the nation who were modern pornography started. We're more concerned with exploding brains than flapping breasts and penises (and we really can't give a shit about virtual exploding brains!)... We also do not hand handguns over the counter OR mix politics, religion and pop-culture with each other. I think that, and a healthy diet is what keeps Europe sane and grounded when it comes to these things. Also, we don't have Fox News... or theocracy.
If it ever came out for PC i would create a mod that would allow you to hook up with and fuck the everloving shit out of Bonnie MacFarlane cause goddamnit that what i wanted to happen in the game rather than John getting with Abigail....even in alot of the cutscenes between Bonnie and John you could totally tell she wanted his coug'd zombie killin ass.
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