[QUOTE=Gate;40339992]Pugna, i dont understand how should he be played[/QUOTE]
I play pugna.
First he is squishy, so build him tanky.
In early game his Q and W combo can do massive dmg to enemies, put 1 point in your W and max out your Q, unless the enemy is spam happy with spells put some points into the ward, netherwards disrupts the enemies mana regen, And can even drain mana if they have shit manaregen, make sure to pick pugna against high mana cost heroes.
His ult has a low cooldown, you can use it on creeps to heal you back to full health.
Also your decreep can be used on team mates, combine this with a force staff to push them to safety (Warning, enemies spells do get the 40% DMG bonus). Using decreep on yourself still allows you to use a TP or completely avoid juggers ult. your Q in late game can be used to clear creep waves with ease. Building a Mek is recommended due pugnas low HP.
I'm not good at writing tips, so someone root out the bad "tips" for me.
I am also aware this isnt the right thread to post this, My bad.
[QUOTE=Gate;40339992]Pugna, i dont understand how should he be played[/QUOTE]
Pugna has a weird tendancy to start balling the instant he gets an advantage. If you get a fast scepter you can basically out heal even an ursa tearing into you and run away giggling.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;40339878]In my opinion, Lion doesn't scale into late game at all. There's way too much magic resistance for his stuff to be useful, but correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
If you are balling with him just go a etheral blade and your problems will be gone!
People need to start understanding how to play Pugna instead of instantly crying out that he's bad
With Dragonus you should be seeing even more Pugna players anyway because of that lovely 1.4k damage nuke on the ward
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;40339878]In my opinion, Lion doesn't scale into late game at all. There's way too much magic resistance for his stuff to be useful, but correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
True.. true.. but he's got a Hex which is a strong disable, he's got a Stun which is capable of stunning the entire team, PLUS he has that 850 damage nuke on 40 second cooldown not to make him COMPLETELY useless.
[editline]19th April 2013[/editline]
And it depends on the target you use the Ult on.
Carapaced Nyx? Tempting, but nah.
Anti Mage with Hood of Defiance? Hell no.
Riki or Gondar being caught off position? Hell yes nuke that fucker down.
[QUOTE=ryfry99;40332570]Is bloodseeker really that bad? I'm pretty new so I don't really know but I was able to do well with him when I got mid.[/QUOTE]
The only time I see him being a danger at all is when he roams with a nuker, who can also stun/ministun (like zeus or lina)
[editline]19th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;40333898]Silencer to me has always seemed a bit flawed in that there's 3 other heroes in the game now with an AOE silence that lasts for as long as his ulti, except they don't have a 2 minute cooldown.[/QUOTE]
Well, the last word rework was pretty nice, being able to dissarm can be really useful
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;40339878]In my opinion, Lion doesn't scale into late game at all. There's way too much magic resistance for his stuff to be useful, but correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
They need to improve Scepter on Lion and make him slightly more viable.
the ginger-ranger, because she basicly is a more annoying copy of drow, with less nuke
Omniknight with Black King Bar
Sven with Battlefury.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;40376240]Sven with Battlefury.[/QUOTE]
You underestimate how strong it is.
It basically makes Sven's ability to farm become dangerously close to Alch or Doom and by God do you even know what a 100% crit cleave does?
there are far more better items to pick up than just another cleave
The only heroes that I can think of as similar would be Dazzle and Omniknight. They both heal (That damages nearby units), they both have a slow and their ulti gives tons of armor.
But then again, Omni's ult is more powerful as defence and he has a free bkb for anyone who wants it.
Still similar imo
Shadowblade slark
[QUOTE=Sableye;40374482]the ginger-ranger, because she basicly is a more annoying copy of drow, with less nuke[/QUOTE]
What? Apart from the fact that they both use a bow, they're entirely different.
[QUOTE=Merijn;40376877]What? Apart from the fact that they both use a bow, they're entirely different.[/QUOTE]
Medusa is a complete copy of Drow as well, really bad game design 0/10
[QUOTE=Rawbutbull;40376542]The only heroes that I can think of as similar would be Dazzle and Omniknight. They both heal (That damages nearby units), they both have a slow and their ulti gives tons of armor.
But then again, Omni's ult is more powerful as defence and he has a free bkb for anyone who wants it.
Still similar imo[/QUOTE]
Shallow. Grave.
[QUOTE=Rarara;40377118]Medusa is a complete copy of Drow as well, really bad game design 0/10[/QUOTE]
wtf BESTMASTER uzes axis then troller warlord also wtf riot stop copy 1/10
[QUOTE=Merijn;40376877]What? Apart from the fact that they both use a bow, they're entirely different.[/QUOTE]
Tinker uses proyectiles to attack. Pls Riot stop this drow champions -42/10 wouldn´t Draven
[QUOTE=Petachepas;40378272]Tinker uses proyectiles to attack. Pls Riot stop this drow champions -42/10 wouldn´t Draven[/QUOTE]
umfg game uses circles as aoe such a rip off of cOd explosjons
veil of discord
you are never gonna have time to open with a veil cast, you will have to throw your stun or nuke immediately b4 they run away, and if there are other people in your team that stuns and locks them down, the guys stunned will prob die without the veil's additional damage amplification anyways.
[QUOTE=lonewaft;40380137]veil of discord
you are never gonna have time to open with a veil cast, you will have to throw your stun or nuke immediately b4 they run away, and if there are other people in your team that stuns and locks them down, the guys stunned will prob die without the veil's additional damage amplification anyways.[/QUOTE]
Be a hero with magic damage.
Apply Veil to forehead.
Stare ominously at enemies until they lose 25% magic resist.
Use magic.
S1CK SK33LZ 1NS4N3 DAM4G3!!!
(It's amazing on Sand King, Zeus, teams with a lot of magic damage in general (Lion,Shadow Shaman, Lina, Earthshaker etc) and it lasts for quite a bit as well as not being too costly.)
[QUOTE=Rarara;40380397]Be a hero with magic damage.
Apply Veil to forehead.
Stare ominously at enemies until they lose 25% magic resist.
Use magic.
S1CK SK33LZ 1NS4N3 DAM4G3!!!
(It's amazing on Sand King, Zeus, teams with a lot of magic damage in general (Lion,Shadow Shaman, Lina, Earthshaker etc) and it lasts for quite a bit as well as not being too costly.)[/QUOTE]
Lich ult + veil is also a sweet combo.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;40376705]Shadowblade slark[/QUOTE]
My brother gets shadow blade all the time for the stats alone
omni/veno with skadi may seem redundant, but both are amazing
I just hate how Lion and Lina pretty much have the same ult.
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;40380912]I just hate how Lion and Lina pretty much have the same ult.[/QUOTE]
Lion has 300% more badass in his ulti.
[sp]And 300% more downtime[/sp]
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40329654]why do we have enigma (bar his jungling and support capabilities) when we have magnus[/QUOTE]
Longer disable duration and more damage to close range enemies, combined with midnight pulse ends up doing a whole lot of damage.
Also, pushing with enigma is awesome.
[editline]23rd April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gate;40339992]Pugna, i dont understand how should he be played[/QUOTE]
Use Nether Blast to... blast people, creeps AND buildings to smithereens.
Decrepify to slow down and amplify magic damage on someone (beware, auto-attackers cannot attack at all)
Set up a Nether Ward whenever a team fight is about to start or in the laning phase to drain the mana from low mana heroes. Whenever they cast a spell, they get blasted by the ward, and that damage isn't funny in the slightest... Great against heroes with orb effect aswell, especially OD. Tears him apart in seconds.
Use Life Drain against people that can't cancel your channeling, while you drain their health and take it back as your own health. You can even use decrepify and then use life drain to drain them even faster, and in case of an auto attacker, they wont even be able to do anything at all.
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