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Vlad's on Skeleton King.

I saw a PA with both a vladmir's and a dominator the goal was to solo rosh at level 8, I guess it worked. But since she built no damage she was useless the rest of the game.

huskar who rushed aghanims :(

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;40690417]huskar who rushed aghanims :([/QUOTE] it's an awesome midgame item on him, I probably wouldn't get it first but It's definitely a good buy

[QUOTE=ryfry99;40332570]Is bloodseeker really that bad? I'm pretty new so I don't really know but I was able to do well with him when I got mid.[/QUOTE] you need a team which is able To essentially make sure that whever hecasts his skill the enemy dies. Which requires a fair bit of coordination and heroes and items which are able To move the enemy around. Pudge for staffs and the like. But as carries ho, he is essentially the weakest without the team. [editline]21st May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=codemaster85;40624433]so SK building vlads is viable? i mean hes durable as fuck and the damage amp is nice for him.[/QUOTE] well he's sort of a support so yeach, he can build it for the team.

SK is not in any way a support are you high.

WHICH SK DO WE MEAN?

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;40726922]WHICH SK DO WE MEAN?[/QUOTE] Well i thought we were talking about Skeleton King, right?

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;40726922]WHICH SK DO WE MEAN?[/QUOTE] Obviously Shadow King

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;40329665]Bloodseeker.[/QUOTE] Ever try to fight a Bloodseeker as Slark? Don't.

[QUOTE=O.B.P.F.F.;40780760]Ever try to fight a Bloodseeker as Slark? Don't.[/QUOTE] Yeah you can't purge Rupture. Sweet god it was so satisfying to pick Pubseeker as anti-Slark hero when he was added. The amount of cocky Slark players thinking HURR PURGE AND POUNCE only to see a massive trail of blood flying through the air was nothing short of supremely satisfying.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40780796]Yeah you can't purge Rupture. Sweet god it was so satisfying to pick Pubseeker as anti-Slark hero when he was added. The amount of cocky Slark players thinking HURR PURGE AND POUNCE only to see a massive trail of blood flying through the air was nothing short of supremely satisfying.[/QUOTE] It's not even that, it's that once you're in a fight you are going to get low on hp no matter what and your strongest point, your hp regen gets disabled, almost all the way back to base if you even get that far.

[QUOTE=O.B.P.F.F.;40786440]It's not even that, it's that once you're in a fight you are going to get low on hp no matter what and your strongest point, your hp regen gets disabled, almost all the way back to base if you even get that far.[/QUOTE] Most Slark players didn't have the brains to get to that point, they pounced themself to death through rupture thinking it was purgable. :v:

Getting off topic now, let's go back Why is Kunkka such a gimmick hero? All he's good for is getting a rampage when he's got about 15k gold worth of farm v teams with 1.7 average strength gain.

[QUOTE=O.B.P.F.F.;40802807]Getting off topic now, let's go back Why is Kunkka such a gimmick hero? All he's good for is getting a rampage when he's got about 15k gold worth of farm v teams with 1.7 average strength gain.[/QUOTE] Boat and Torrent are 2stronk if you're good at the game.

[QUOTE=O.B.P.F.F.;40802807]Getting off topic now, let's go back Why is Kunkka such a gimmick hero? All he's good for is getting a rampage when he's got about 15k gold worth of farm v teams with 1.7 average strength gain.[/QUOTE] Boat has super short cd and goes through bkb. Torrent deals high damage, stuns and slows. 2 Amazing aoe skills and aoe pure damage on first hit.

people also seem to forget about the boat's amazing buff

[QUOTE=nmagain;40806104]people also seem to forget about the boat's amazing buff[/QUOTE] For those that don't know [IMG]http://gyazo.com/7427f2fcfe880e28cdd2d678da1155ae.png[/IMG] Essentially 50% less damage taken for everyone. Really good for clutch fights.

[QUOTE=Rayne Rimsek;40811357]For those that don't know [IMG]http://gyazo.com/7427f2fcfe880e28cdd2d678da1155ae.png[/IMG] Essentially 50% less damage taken for everyone. Really good for clutch fights.[/QUOTE] The amount of times I've survived where I would've died if it weren't for Kunkka's Rum can't even be counted, it's so ridiculously good and is the main reason for spamming that boat. [QUOTE=spanaren;40330166]No. I'll lynch you if I ever see you build Vanguard on Bristleback. It is NOT AT ALL viable IN THE SLIGHTEST. There is NEVER any reason you should EVER buy Vanguard on Bristleback over a Hood. EVER.[/QUOTE] [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/204973988[/url] Needed one more than Pipe here because the biggest threats dealt autoattack damage. Highly occasionally, Vanguard > Pipe on Bristleback.

[QUOTE=Rarara;40803019]Boat has super short cd and goes through bkb. Torrent deals high damage, stuns and slows. 2 Amazing aoe skills and aoe pure damage on first hit.[/QUOTE] Which moves go through BKB (or magic immunity in general) anyway? I know Black Hole, Boat and Axe's ult do.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;40811962]Which moves go through BKB (or magic immunity in general) anyway? I know Black Hole, Boat and Axe's ult do.[/QUOTE] Reverse Polarity, doom, Death Prophets ghosts, Beastmasters ulti and axes, Guardian Angel (when applied after bkb, not before), Rupture (Does not disappear when BKB is used but stops dealing damage for the duration), Chrono, Warlock golem stun, acid spray, and the stat loss of Shredders q goes through bkb. Oh also, Banes ulti, greater bash and dismember. Probably more but I just listed what I remembered atm. (I didn't bother mentioning silly things like the stun duration of AMs ulti)

AM's ult ministuns through BKB, Spirit Breaker's Ult, Witch Doctor's ult, Bristleback's Quillspray (it's physical!), Pudge's Hook and Dismember, Diabolic Edict, Batrider's Lasso, Shadow Demon's ult still slows and purges through magic immunity (but won't deal damage), Rubick's Spell Steal and Necrolyte's ult will still stun through magic immunity (but won't deal damage).

[QUOTE=Rarara;40812318]Reverse Polarity, doom, Death Prophets ghosts, Beastmasters ulti and axes, Guardian Angel (when applied after bkb, not before), Rupture (Does not disappear when BKB is used but stops dealing damage for the duration), Chrono, Warlock golem stun, acid spray, and the stat loss of Shredders q goes through bkb. Oh also, Banes ulti, greater bash and dismember. Probably more but I just listed what I remembered atm. (I didn't bother mentioning silly things like the stun duration of AMs ulti)[/QUOTE] Looking at the hero list... don't think I missed any... Naga Ensnare. (Meepo's net used to trap through BKB too, was the only reason you would pick him competitively, though the recent Agh's buff is nice.) Hookshot, Lasso, Track, CM ult, Dark Seer Wall, Huskar's ult, AM's ult, Shadow Priest's ult, Jugger's ult (dmg included), Dusa's ult, Necro's ult, Pudge's ult and hook, Tinker's march (dmg included), Magnus skewer (slow included), Edict (mixed dmg) SK's ult, Never's ult, Shadow Demon's ult, Axe Call, Treant's ult (can be removed by BKB), Silencers ult (can be removed by BKB), Slardar's ult, VS's ult, Vipers ult. None do damage unless mentioned.

Ensnare and Earthbind are removed by Ghost Scepter IIRC

Ive always found weaver to be a bit useless, an an enemy, ally, and a pick. Maybe I am just playing him wrong.

When I play Weaver: average damage per hit until MKB When the enemy has a Weaver: SWEET MOTHER OF MERCY WHY THE DICKING TITS IS HE DEALING THAT MUCH DAMAGE ALREADY

[QUOTE=bigbadbarron;40836152]Ive always found weaver to be a bit useless, an an enemy, ally, and a pick. Maybe I am just playing him wrong.[/QUOTE] Weaver is fucking awesome. It's impossible to die unless you dive the fountain 1v5 and even then you should probably survive.

Fucking intentional feeders... Completely ruined the game, even though we were playing against the feeder.

[QUOTE=Rarara;40839306]Weaver is fucking awesome. It's impossible to die unless you dive the fountain 1v5 and even then you should probably survive.[/QUOTE] Is weaver supposed to be support or a mid-lane ganker? Whenever I'm matched with or against a weaver, it seems he has the most deaths/feeds the entire game.

[QUOTE=bigbadbarron;40851386]Is weaver supposed to be support or a mid-lane ganker? Whenever I'm matched with or against a weaver, it seems he has the most deaths/feeds the entire game.[/QUOTE] Huh what, he's a late-game carry that is effective mid-game and very disruptive, though really squishy if he's caught out.