Fallout Series Thread V6 - FalloutNV.exe has stopped responding - Games

you know it mother fucker :3: [editline]8th April 2011[/editline] yes I made that horrible picture

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;29055708]I have been really thinking about it, and I realized, I have no fucking clue why I don't like the idea of FEV in a Vault-Tec, someone in the Bethesda camp needs to explain in depth why Vault-Tec would be interested in a chemical used to make super soldiers, and why its in a Vault in DC when its being STILL being developed at a Military base in California. It makes no sense to me :psyduck:[/QUOTE] It's a mutagen that could be the key to the indefinite survival of the US, if it didn't cause sterility. They were probably studying it and attempting to improve it, making it the "cure" to radiation.

[QUOTE=Lucinice;29055445]Would have been nice to have offered a better explanation, really the only thing they gave was that it wasn't the same strain of virus as mariposa and that only leads to people making theories.[/QUOTE] Maybe the truck carrying the FEV started banging a Best Buy truck and a few containers got transferred?

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;29055708]I have been really thinking about it, and I realized, I have no fucking clue why I don't like the idea of FEV in a Vault-Tec, someone in the Bethesda camp needs to explain in depth why Vault-Tec would be interested in a chemical used to make super soldiers, and why its in a Vault in DC when its being STILL being developed at a Military base in California. It makes no sense to me :psyduck:[/QUOTE] The Vault Experiment was made by the Enclave who were the ones researching the FEV, they probably figured that they had a supply of humans trapped for several years they may as well put them to good use a test subjects for it.

What gets me is how the Californians are taking so bloody long when the Enclave already had it down (to a science, but a horrible one) And what, isn't New Vegas like, two hundred years AFTER Fallout 3? It took them 200 years to get nothing accomplished? All that tumbleweed out in Cali is making the researchers slow, wink wink

[QUOTE=Lucinice;29051753]Only the thing about FEV and the GECK contradict canon. Also why are you listing the brotherhood there? It was explained many times.[/QUOTE] Brotherhood had a war with NCR and went in to hiding. I don't think you could explain how the brotherhood suddenly got thousands of knights, scribes and paladins to venture out east on a whim when in Fallout 1 & 2 they were basically a 100 person organization. Bethesda couldn't think up a new story or new factions so they used old ones and used shoddy pretexts to explain their presence there. One of the other unplayed discrepancies in Fallout 3 is chems. Psycho in Fallout 1 and 2 was a high powered amphetamine that got you [I]one week[/I] long drug dose, and was used for military applications. It also costs a fortune and was uber-rare. In Fallout 3 Psycho is a [I]recreational drug[/I] and costs like 25 caps a peice. Jet, where the fuck did it come from? It was native to New Reno and the production basically died when Myron got stabbed by a junkie, how did the drug, let alone the very precise scientific recipe make it to Washington DC? [quote] And what, isn't New Vegas like, two hundred years AFTER Fallout 3? It took them 200 years to get nothing accomplished? [/quote]New Vegas is 3 years after Fallout 3. [quote]The Vault Experiment was made by the Enclave who were the ones researching the FEV, they probably figured that they had a supply of humans trapped for several years they may as well put them to good use a test subjects for it. [/quote]The Enclave did not make FEV. They discovered FEV at mariposa and excavated the site, and then some of the worker slaves mutated and tore the enclave troops to shreds. Then the enclave used their FEV research to make Frank Hoorigan into a vicious monster, and used the rest to create a genocide agent. When the oil rig blew up, it was the end of FEV. The Enclave initiated the vault experiment before the great war, and did not have access to FEV at the time, I'd imagine if they did, it wouldn't have taken them like 200 years to get a hold of FEV. Another discrepancy explained by a shoddy pretext.

[QUOTE=zydos;29056321]What gets me is how the Californians are taking so bloody long when the Enclave already had it down (to a science, but a horrible one) And what, isn't New Vegas like, two hundred years AFTER Fallout 3? It took them 200 years to get nothing accomplished? All that tumbleweed out in Cali is making the researchers slow, wink wink[/QUOTE] New Vegas is 3 years after Fallout 3.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29056435]Brotherhood had a war with NCR and went in to hiding. I don't think you could explain how the brotherhood suddenly got thousands of knights, scribes and paladins to venture out east on a whim when in Fallout 1 & 2 they were basically a 100 person organization. Bethesda couldn't think up a new story or new factions so they used old ones and used shoddy pretexts to explain their presence there.[/QUOTE] A. The brotherhood traveled east before the NCR-Brotherhood war started B. Unlike the Brotherhood back home, they recruit locals heavily C. They were much larger then 100 people, for real.

[QUOTE=TraderRager;29056605]A. The brotherhood traveled east before the NCR-Brotherhood war startes B. Unlike the Brotherhood back home, they recruit locals heavily C. They were much larger then 100 people, for real.[/QUOTE] A: Bethesda did not write the original story B: The explanations are crappy tack-ons because Bethesda didn't want to make new factions. It'd be like if JK Rowling bought the Lord of the Rings title and made a new book called Lord of the Rings IV, re-wrote the story and tried to explain why the story suddenly changed.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29056653]A: Bethesda did not wright the original story B: The explanations are crappy tack-ons.[/QUOTE] A. What does that have to do with anything? B. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsogswrH6ck]Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.[/url]

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29056653]A: Bethesda did not write the original story B: The explanations are crappy tack-ons because Bethesda didn't want to make new factions.[/QUOTE] A: No they didn't but they now have the rights to it so they can retcon as much as they want B: It's nor crappy they go over it several times.

[QUOTE=Lucinice;29056688]A: No they didn't but they now have the rights to it so they can retcon as much as they want B: It's nor crappy they go over it several times.[/QUOTE] Thats all fine and dandy but thats a perfect reason to not accept much of the the F3 story as canon. Any attempt to explain major discrepancies, especially when they did not write the original story is a crappy explanation.

Just because its Canon doesn't mean I have to like it dammit.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;29056831]Just because its Canon doesn't mean I have to like it dammit.[/QUOTE] Oh absolutely not. Just don't be surprised when these events are referenced in later games. Same with something like [i]Tactics[/i] - the new developers seem resigned to the fact that the events of the game happened, just don't expect them to examine the details any closer than that.

[QUOTE=Goldenboy;29056881]Oh absolutely not. Just don't be surprised when these events are referenced in later games. Same with something like [i]Tactics[/i] - the new developers seem resigned to the fact that the events of the game happened, just don't expect them to examine the details any closer than that.[/QUOTE]Tactics was pretty interesting though, Fallout 3s canon and story are really boring and badly written.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;29056977]Tactics was pretty interesting though, Fallout 3s canon and story are really boring and badly written.[/QUOTE] Bethesda story writing works well for Medieval-style fantasy like TES but I think Fallout is best when its done by Fallout's writers.

And to further prove Fo3 is cannon, you will meet a FO3 character in future DLC for new vegas.

Like who

[QUOTE=RG4;29057921]Like who[/QUOTE] Sticky.

Can't we just call FO3 semi-canon? As in "canon as long as it doesn't contradict other canon"? This Boolean canon-ness is getting on my nerves. Also, wouldn't it make sense that the Enclave, the [b]former United States government[/b] is mega powerful in DC, the [b]capital of the US[/b]?

Hey guys, I think the NCR storyline is glitched, I just saved Kimballs' ass, and now Moore is going on about the omertas again, How do i fix this?

[QUOTE=lavacano;29058220]Can't we just call FO3 semi-canon? As in "canon as long as it doesn't contradict other canon"? This Boolean canon-ness is getting on my nerves. Also, wouldn't it make sense that the Enclave, the [b]former United States government[/b] is mega powerful in DC, the [b]capital of the US[/b]?[/QUOTE] The fallout bible clearly states that the enclave (a [b]SPLINTER FACTION[/b] of the government) were based in california, and most of the officials in the government were sent to the oil rig, including the enclave. At most, they probably had a couple of suits in DC forming their shadow plays and controlling Government officials.

[img]http://gyazo.com/e161c2ee65b53a0928bf6dba83ed1734.png[/img] I love Wild Wasteland even more. Just got so much Energy Cells, maybe a coupla MF cells.

FUCKING FALLOUT 3. I have nearly completely given up. It crashes ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME. I'm not even joking, I save religiously, quick-saving maybe about 10 or so times in one minute. I've looked around and it seems that Fallout 3 crashes a lot for people on Windows 7 aswell. Why? New Vegas shares the same engine but only crashes about a tenth as much.

[QUOTE=Saza;29058651][img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/e161c2ee65b53a0928bf6dba83ed1734.png[/img_thumb] I love Wild Wasteland even more. Just got so much Energy Cells, maybe a coupla MF cells.[/QUOTE] I think "The One" is a Stephen king reference to "The Stand" where the Trashcan Man brings a nuclear warhead to Las Vegas to kill Randal Flag

[QUOTE=Samiam22;29059347]FUCKING FALLOUT 3. I have nearly completely given up. It crashes ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME. I'm not even joking, I save religiously, quick-saving maybe about 10 or so times in one minute. I've looked around and it seems that Fallout 3 crashes a lot for people on Windows 7 aswell. Why? New Vegas shares the same engine but only crashes about a tenth as much.[/QUOTE] maybe you should stop saving so much, gamebryo has been known to crash on saving do you have any mods

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;29058007]Sticky.[/QUOTE] Killed him.

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;29059602]maybe you should stop saving so much, gamebryo has been known to crash on saving do you have any mods[/QUOTE] Nope my game is 100% clean. No mods, no DLC, final destination. And afaik, it doesn't crash because I save, I save because I crash.

Are you fully patched?

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;29059942]Are you fully patched?[/QUOTE] Not sure. I've tried to do heaps of things to get it running (compatibility mode, running as admin, that tweak on fallout.ini to make it use less CPU because its incompatible with quad-core, low water-sampling), they've all helped but none have stopped the crashing completely.