[QUOTE=DaApocalypse;25041421]The puzzles should come first. Visuals second.[/QUOTE]
Yea, we creating new puzzles. I mean new elements.
But visuals are one of the main thing in mod too
Actally the best thing - its a good mix of puzzles and visuals :D
Oh the puzzles...
I loved how the propulsion beam can tansport you, making you go up to walls, to the celling and such.
Idea for a mechanic: make some kind of color detector: example, there are cubes of 3 different colors, these colors activates some bridges, when you pass trough a color changer, all the bridges from other colors deactivate, and only bridges from the color of the cube still activated.
[QUOTE=Matsilagi;25041785]Oh the puzzles...
I loved how the propulsion beam can tansport you, making you go up to walls, to the celling and such.
Idea for a mechanic: make some kind of color detector: example, there are cubes of 3 different colors, these colors activates some bridges, when you pass trough a color changer, all the bridges from other colors deactivate, and only bridges from the color of the cube still activated.[/QUOTE]
blue portals has already done that ;)
[editline]11:59AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;25040941]I did give you criticism, you ignored every single bit of it. You are useless at actually reading posts it seems. I shouldn't have to lay it out like you "require" for you to read it.[/QUOTE]
yeah, we read it and we are working on it. sorry for not replying to it.
[editline]12:01PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dracon;25040810]fine, want some constructive criticism? IMO, the mod looks great but it can still be improved, I cant name anything specific as its just some little things here and there. Honestly, I am looking forward to this mod.
And you are still a hypocrite (seriously, you told someone who wasn't doing anything to get out, and called them a troll for something they did IN A DIFFERENT THREAD)[/QUOTE]
ok, thanks for participating :D
but please point things out, just don't say it as an insult. the definition of constructive criticism is somewhere in this thread if you want to read it.
I bet this won't have optimization.
Looks nice, devs need to stop biting the troll bait tho
[editline]06:11PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=redBadger;25042185]I bet this won't have optimization.[/QUOTE]
why do all of your posts sound so butthurt, were you kicked off their team or something ={
I bet P:A will go down in the dumps because they can't take criticism.
WAIT WAIT
Yellowapple: GUT OT OF MI THRED EVEN TO D3M MAYD IT
[QUOTE=grabbin pills?;25042084]
ok, thanks for participating :D
but please point things out, just don't say it as an insult. the definition of constructive criticism is somewhere in this thread if you want to read it.[/QUOTE]
It would be ultra nit-picking to point them out, as I barely notice them. Also, I don't know whats going on behind the scenes, and I honestly would give much better feedback if there was a small demo or something. (I'm not asking for one, I'm just saying its hard to give feedback off some screenshots)
[QUOTE=Death_God;25042376]I bet P:A will go down in the dumps because they can't take criticism.
WAIT WAIT
Yellowapple: GUT OT OF MI THRED EVEN TO D3M MAYD IT [/QUOTE]
Okay sorry, you can give feedback.
We will read it, we will stop calling it trolling.
[QUOTE=redBadger;25042185]I bet this won't have optimization.[/QUOTE]
To be honest Portal levels aren't that big. So even the most un-optimized ones can run well. They don't have overly complex geometry, don't rely on AI too much and don't need noding for that reason.
There is very little you can fuck up in Portal mapping.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;25044498]To be honest Portal levels aren't that big. So even the most un-optimized ones can run well. They don't have overly complex geometry, don't rely on AI too much and don't need noding for that reason.
There is very little you can fuck up in Portal mapping.[/QUOTE]
Portal:prelude managed to break the last chamber by having all that fire, the fps went rock bottom.
[QUOTE=redBadger;25042185]I bet this won't have optimization.[/QUOTE]
We use these materials to Optimize our maps.
Hint and skip almost everywhere we can.
Area portals parented to doors
Nodraw(we actually build the whole maps in nodraw first then add textures to walls we can see)
We turn all complex and small geometry into "func_details"
We always use the grid system, usually around 16 units for basic mapping, Then smaller for details.
After we compile the maps, we go into the game and turn "Mat_wireframe" on so We can see how much further we can optimize the map.
We make sure there is absolutely no leaks what so ever. (which is one of the reason we fired Optics, because when there is a leak, he just puts a nodraw box around the whole map instead of finding and sealing the leak.)
We use cheap textures where ever the player cant get close to.
we try hard for quality control.
[QUOTE=Smasher 006;25045013]Portal:prelude managed to break the last chamber by having all that fire, the fps went rock bottom.[/QUOTE]
First time I played that level, it was impossible cause I was getting about 1 fps (on my old comp with an Nividia 6X00 graphics card lolz)
So that's a don't: Don't make huge amounts of fire.
[QUOTE=p0rtalplayer;25046372]First time I played that level, it was impossible cause I was getting about 1 fps (on my old comp with an Nividia 6X00 graphics card lolz)
So that's a don't: Don't make huge amounts of fire.[/QUOTE]
This mod will most likely not even have fire, because what would be burning? everything is made of metal and concrete, and last time I checked, those things don't burn very well ;)
The plants?
[QUOTE=grabbin pills?;25046442]done burn very well ;)[/QUOTE]
Wat.
[QUOTE=Dashiel;25049391]The plants?[/QUOTE]
The plants a green and moist, so its much harder to burn them, although, I guess they could, but though would cause a wild fire and engulf the whole facility? killing the player.
[editline]06:11PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Death_God;25049583][B]Wat.[/B][/QUOTE]
What?
It said "done burn"
read the quote I posted.
Fine, you guys want constructive criticism?
Good:
-The maps look pretty nice
-The puzzle concepts are quite interesting
-Cool animation sequences.
Bad:
-Some puzzles could frustrate first time players
-So many ways to get stuck in a level
-Some lights are a little off in my opinion
-Levels sometimes are just plain broken
Overall: Good looking game, but pretty broken.
[QUOTE=nibbler234;25050265]Fine, you guys want constructive criticism?
Good:
-The maps look pretty nice
-The puzzle concepts are quite interesting
-Cool animation sequences.
Bad:
-Some puzzles could frustrate first time players
-So many ways to get stuck in a level
-Some lights are a little off in my opinion
-Levels sometimes are just plain broken
Overall: Good looking game, but pretty broken.[/QUOTE]
I don't think demo was serious about posting like that, but oh well, anyways, could you be more specific on what is broken?
[editline]07:30PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Death_God;25050105]It said "done burn"
read the quote I posted.[/QUOTE]
I know I was just correcting your post from "wat." to "What?"
Some parts were broken like you can get cubes stuck some places making the level unsolvable. With the blue bridge that makes you go faster, that bit always is unsolvable no matter if you jump, crouch, or anything. There's a part where I think you have to smash a chair out the window, but that doesn't work. There's a lot more, but I won't go into detail.
It's the joke, pills.
And:
-Good: Levels have eye candy
-Bad: Uncreativity.
Example: Using the portal 2 theme in the trailer.
The Storyline.
An architect who has to rebuild GLaDOS to escape the Enrichment Center.. WOW, SOUNDS SO FUN.... and stupid.
[QUOTE=nibbler234;25051966]Some parts were broken like you can get cubes stuck some places making the level unsolvable. With the blue bridge that makes you go faster, that bit always is unsolvable no matter if you jump, crouch, or anything. There's a part where I think you have to smash a chair out the window, but that doesn't work. There's a lot more, but I won't go into detail.[/QUOTE]
For the speed platforms you have to run in the direction that you are moving. You cant make it do all the work ;)
To break the glass all you have to do is grab the chair look at the window and walk toward it, although you may be right, new players my not be able to figure that out.
as for the cubes being stick, I need to know where they are getting stuck.
[editline]09:58PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Death_God;25053969]
The Storyline.
An architect who has to rebuild GLaDOS to escape the Enrichment Center.. WOW, SOUNDS SO FUN.... and stupid.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to write the criticism stuff like that, demo was joking I think.
Also that story is a place holder right now. We are still finishing up the new story and it has nothing to do with GLaDOS now, beside her dead body. Also your still not giving constructive criticism your just being insulting.
[QUOTE=grabbin pills?;25055005]For the speed platforms you have to run in the direction that you are moving. You cant make it do all the work ;)
To break the glass all you have to do is grab the chair look at the window and walk toward it, although you may be right, new players my not be able to figure that out.
as for the cubes being stick, I need to know where they are getting stuck.[/QUOTE]
1. Even going in the same direction, it still kills me.
2. The glass won't break still.
3. Any level with a cube I guess.
[QUOTE=nibbler234;25055057]1. Even going in the same direction, it still kills me.
2. The glass won't break still.
3. Any level with a cube I guess.[/QUOTE]
hm, that is strange, maybe the beta optics leaked was very old and unfinished, because I had that problem with the speed platforms along time ago in the early stages of the map, it is fixed now to where you almost don't need to run. As for the glass I don't know why it wont break. try turning on impulse 101 and shooting the glass, and if it doesn't break that means the map you are playing is the unfinished version. but I'll talk to khan tomorrow and see if I can get him to remove the glass, it seems like it would be to complicated for new players. also when the cubes get stuck are you talking about if you throw them both up by the exit door on the ledge so you cant get to them. Because I don't think a regular player that wasn't looking for glitches would do that.
TO Pills: WTF?
I was serious about:
GOOD:
example
BAD:
EXAMPLE
[QUOTE=d3m0l1sh3r;25061378]TO Pills: WTF?
I was serious about:
GOOD:
example
BAD:
EXAMPLE[/QUOTE]
thats just complicated....
i no rite its so complicicatd 2 lizt good tingz and bad tingz
btw how do i shot web????
Oh mah gawd, pills is so fucking childish. Period.
You're telling us.
Before, he was pretty cool.
Now, he's a P:A defender.
[QUOTE=Death_God;25067586]i no rite its so complicicatd 2 lizt good tingz and bad tingz
btw how do i shot web????[/QUOTE]
What are you in the 7th grade? Grow up. I'm saying its more complicated because it requires more effort that just writing a sentence or paragraph.
[editline]01:19PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=M8_;25068674]Oh mah gawd, pills is so fucking childish. Period.[/QUOTE]
Look who's talking little troll. ;)
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