[QUOTE=Tavish Degroot;22957116]It's a separate ban system. You can get VAC banned from L4D and L4D2, or HL2 engine.
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I don't understand why my thread is being rated late and dumb. This is a purely informative thread and I know at least 90% of you didn't know that.[/QUOTE]
There was a l4d VAC 101 thread about this already.
Back with the FOV overrides
I wish I wasn't vac banned. I had a keylogger or something on my computer and I got it removed but someone already got my password for steam. Then he took my account and got me vac banned from source (by hacking in css) and got my cd key banned in company of heroes. Now I can only play goldsrc because of how rare non-vac servers are. Or if I play with a friend. Shit sucks but I won't ever pirate a VALVe game. I guess I'll have to deal with it until the randomly decide to un-vac every account or something. Also I don't think that Paranoia's advanced graphics dll file thingy gets you banned. Otherwise I would be VAC'd for goldsrc by now. I didn't know about the fact that l4d games are seperate, maybe I should buy them someday then.
I think OP works at valve.
OP Knows nothing about VAC. First of all, VAC does NOT ban you for modified DLL's.
"Q: What is VAC?
A: VAC is Valve Anti-Cheat. It stops people from editing the game's important dll files and the exe. It is a delayed ban system."
This is wrong information. VAC does not prevent people from editing dll's. It isn't even an anti cheat. VAC's goal is to punish current cheaters and to discourage other players from cheating.
If VAC banned for modified dll's, many people would be banned for having faulty memory and all sorts of other bans. Vac bans for KNOWN CHEATS.
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I love VAC. A year or two ago I tried hacking on CS:S and ended up not enjoying it. So after about 10 minutes of hacked gameplay, I uninstalled the hacks I used. I'm still not banned, and I'm glad they at least give you a chance to turn back.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;23017016]OP Knows nothing about VAC. First of all, VAC does NOT ban you for modified DLL's.
"Q: What is VAC?
A: VAC is Valve Anti-Cheat. It stops people from [b]editing the game's important dll files and the exe[/b]. It is a delayed ban system."
This is wrong information. VAC does not prevent people from editing dll's. It isn't even an anti cheat. VAC's goal is to punish current cheaters and to discourage other players from cheating.
If VAC banned for modified dll's, many people would be banned for having faulty memory and all sorts of other bans. Vac bans for KNOWN CHEATS.
Inb4rage-comments/saying-i'm-wrong[/QUOTE]
VAC bans for modified DLLs and exes.
Known cheats modify the DLLs and exes.
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It stops them because they learn their lesson.
I didn't know that Valve employees could ban on a whim.
[QUOTE=Agoat;23017049]I love VAC. A year or two ago I tried hacking on CS:S and ended up not enjoying it. So after about 10 minutes of hacked gameplay, I uninstalled the hacks I used. I'm still not banned, and I'm glad they at least give you a chance to turn back.[/QUOTE]
No, you just used an undetected hack.
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[QUOTE=Amaurus;23017016]OP Knows nothing about VAC. First of all, VAC does NOT ban you for modified DLL's.
"Q: What is VAC?
A: VAC is Valve Anti-Cheat. It stops people from editing the game's important dll files and the exe. It is a delayed ban system."
This is wrong information. VAC does not prevent people from editing dll's. It isn't even an anti cheat. VAC's goal is to punish current cheaters and to discourage other players from cheating.
If VAC banned for modified dll's, many people would be banned for having faulty memory and all sorts of other bans. Vac bans for KNOWN CHEATS.
Inb4rage-comments/saying-i'm-wrong[/QUOTE]
You are wrong, idiot. First off, VAC stands for "Valve Anti Cheat" and VAC does ban for modified DLLs, second of all, you can't run a game if you have faulty memory.
Gotta get dat ventrillo.exe
What is ejecting? its confusing me :3:
What if you do get VAC banned? Can you not play that game anymore?
What about MW2? Are there non-secure and secure servers there?
What about the half life mod Paranoia I wanna play it but I'm scared
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;23028246]What about the half life mod Paranoia I wanna play it but I'm scared[/QUOTE]
Paranoid much about it?
[QUOTE=Niven;23028221]What if you do get VAC banned? Can you not play that game anymore?
What about MW2? Are there non-secure and secure servers there?[/QUOTE]
Read the OP please.
And no, since MW2 is all P2P there are no non secure servers.
Wow, that means I can get banned for hacking in single player? (Half-Life 2)
I better stick with cheat codes xD
[QUOTE=KarmaPolice;22958536]Pretty sure the OP is basing his "you can be banned for exploits" statement on the guy who made a RAGE thread about being VAC'd for using the SourceMod speedhack exploit, which requires (and is an exploit in) SourceMod.[/QUOTE]
For what it's worth, it's an exploit in Source and its handling of plugins, not SourceMod. Plugins aren't unloaded, so SourceMod remains active which allows clients to change cvars like host_timescale, which results in the speedhacking.
You can get vac banned from garrysmod. yet the system is very unpredictable. I was vac banned (long story) yet i could and can still go on garrysmod servers, yet my brother who also suffered the same fate could not.
[QUOTE=Black-Ice;22958705]They said that 2 years didn't work, okay, yeah, that's fine. It's only two years.
They said [B]five[/B] years didn't work.
Wait what? You've got to fucking think about that.
That's 7 out of 12/13 years? That's over half. How can 5 years not be enough? They can't test that shit.
[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about?
About VAC Ban times.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;23017016]OP Knows nothing about VAC. First of all, VAC does NOT ban you for modified DLL's.
"Q: What is VAC?
A: VAC is Valve Anti-Cheat. It stops people from editing the game's important dll files and the exe. It is a delayed ban system."
This is wrong information. VAC does not prevent people from editing dll's. It isn't even an anti cheat. VAC's goal is to punish current cheaters and to discourage other players from cheating.
If VAC banned for modified dll's, many people would be banned for having faulty memory and all sorts of other bans. Vac bans for KNOWN CHEATS.
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"There are three recorded instances of incorrect detections, all under VAC1 and all quickly rescinded. These were:
1.On its initial release, VAC would issue bans for faulty memory. Valve quickly updated VAC to only kick for faulty memory and reversed all bans for faulty memory."
[QUOTE=Takkun10;23019858]Gotta get dat ventrillo.exe[/QUOTE]
Yeah about that.
People are fucking dumbshits thinking it won't get you banned because they think it's disguised as ventrilo. Well it technically is disguised, but it still changes the source .dll files, so they'll get banned anyway.
[QUOTE=Joe_the_fish;22958358]This is shit, they should fix them rather than banning people who use them.[/QUOTE]
That's an extremely stupid idea.
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[QUOTE=dvondrake;23071910]I wish there wasn't a delay on MW2's VAC. At least with Source games you can ban people from your server, on MW2 all you can do is either join another game or just sit there and take it like a man.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, VAC should be different depending on the game.
1. I am banned from MW2 and just yesterday I was hosting servers with custom gamemodes like AVP and gungame. VAC is not perfect.
2. Valve employees DO NOT vac ban people. Ever. You cant ban someone "because an exploit is unfair" thats just not how it works. Remember the thread where someone said he was vac banned by a valve worker? Remember how it was fake?
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OP should have went here: [url]https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=370[/url]
and here: [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=903824[/url]
[QUOTE=Nohj;23072704] Remember the thread where someone said he was vac banned by a valve worker? Remember how it was fake?[/QUOTE]
If you actually read that whole thread, there was at one point a link to the server's website which contained logs. There was 100% solid evidence available right there.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;23073015]If you actually read that whole thread, there was at one point a link to the server's website which contained logs. There was 100% solid evidence available right there.[/QUOTE]
I was an active part of that whole thread. I know that its fake. Also valve even said that they never do the bans themselves.
[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;22958776]Add to OP:
If you're smart enough to make your own hacks (by coding, not by using stuff like Cheat Engine), as long as you don't share them you are safe.
VAC can only detect what it is taught to detect, they need to know about a hack before they are able to detect it.
Not that I approve of hacking, just from an informative point of view.[/QUOTE]
No, vac can detect CRC or MD5 changes in the core files. every file has a unique crc or md5. if there is a change, you are banned.
[QUOTE=Amplar;23073498]No, vac can detect CRC or MD5 changes in the core files. every file has a unique crc or md5. if there is a change, you are banned.[/QUOTE]
Not true. VAC looks for changes yes but it looks for certain TYPES of changes. I.E. known hacks.
[QUOTE=Amplar;23073498]No, vac can detect CRC or MD5 changes in the core files. every file has a unique crc or md5. if there is a change, you are banned.[/QUOTE]
That's not how VAC detects modification.
Unlike PB, VAC allows modifications to the game, such as injections of game overlays and media player controller. VAC uses blacklists for known injection signatures to trigger bans.
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