[QUOTE=Goofa;24276521]after adding boats they'd probably need to add submarines because those also existed during the period
and planes
and also why are there no tanks, they had tanks back then
ps why can't I ski when it's snowing outside
stupid lazy devs fucking ruining my game[/QUOTE]
You missed the point, the arguement was that it would not be realistic for mafia members to drive around in tanks or fly planes, but they did have yachts, so why aren't they in the game? Especially seeing as they used one for a hit in the Sopranos.
pssh anybody with a wrench can fix their engine after a 100 mph crash
the engine thing actually really bothers me
but I know it'd really bother me later when I customized my car and slammed it into a wall and never got it back to my garage
like in the original mafia when you would go to Bertone's Autoservice and pick up a sweet new car but on your way back to the bar you would flip it over or explode and then you'd have to reload a save just so you can have the car but really you know it's not worth it but you loaded anyways because it was yours and you wanted it
Again, this game isn't a sandbox game. The developers said so themselves. If none of the missions require you to drive a boat, then there shouldn't be drivable boats anyway. People here are really mistaking this game for another GTA clone.
[QUOTE=killz2much;24271235]You ever heard of a mafioso in the 40s/50s riding a motorcycle? No? Know why? Because that would be [b]STUPID.[/b][/QUOTE]
No smart developer would sacrifice fun to maintain the main character's ego
[QUOTE=Goofa;24276640]pssh anybody with a wrench can fix their engine after a 100 mph crash
the engine thing actually really bothers me[/QUOTE]
I snipped that part from my post because I realised Vito may have learnt that in the army, but yeah you're right.
[QUOTE=Goofa;24276640]pssh anybody with a wrench can fix their engine after a 100 mph crash
the engine thing actually really bothers me[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Cars are virtually indestructible now. But it's sort of a good thing, because think about it: ever hated how when you finally found the perfect car in GTAIV, and you crashed into many things, it just ceased to function? Well now you have the ability to slowly drag it to a repair shop instead of relying on the shitty traffic system to get another one like it.
But yeah it's unrealistic as hell. I tested this system by crashing my car and 'totaling' it like 50 times, all of which was fixable by doing a repair by the engine.
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;24276671]No smart developer would sacrifice fun to maintain the main character's ego[/QUOTE]
I actually think a motorcycle would be less fun.
You know when you're running from the cops and they're peppering you with their tommy guns and 1 in every 4 rounds makes it through your back window and you die.
now let's pretend we have a motorcycle and oh my god I am running from the cops on it this is so fucking cool, except now 1 in every 1 shots is going to hit you because there is no big metal car to eat up bullets that are on-path to your face
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;24276714]Agreed. Cars are virtually indestructible now. But it's sort of a good thing, because think about it: ever hated how when you finally found the perfect car in GTAIV, and you crashed into many things, it just ceased to function? Well now you have the ability to slowly drag it to a repair shop instead of relying on the shitty traffic system to get another one like it.
But yeah it's unrealistic as hell. I tested this system by crashing my car and 'totaling' it like 50 times, all of which was fixable by doing a repair by the engine.[/QUOTE]
If they added something as unrealistic as that then why couldn't they add something as unrealistic as swimming? Or taking your hat off with a suit in the 50s? Or shooting/diving out of your car?
in actual fact aeroplanes and boats are kind of ridiculous to have,
how could vito possibly know how to drive a plane or a boat?
ok maybe he could drive a boat but still!!
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;24276757]If they added something as unrealistic as that then why couldn't they add something as unrealistic as swimming? [b]Or taking your hat off with a suit in the 50s?[/b] Or shooting/diving out of your car?[/QUOTE]
That may not be unrealistic but it is [i]totally[/i] unfashionable.
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[QUOTE=badMedia;24276810]in actual fact aeroplanes and boats are kind of ridiculous to have,
how could vito possibly know how to drive a plane or a boat?
ok maybe he could drive a boat but still!![/QUOTE]
driving a boat isn't rocket science
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;24276466]Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant by the logic they are going by all the civilians should be invincible, seeing as there is an invisible wall on the beach to stop you swimming, there should be an invisible shield around all the civilians because Mafia members didn't shoot them just like they didn't go swimming.
Why can't they just admit they didn't have the talent or the time to put swimming or boats or another few NPCs in?
I don't care that much about the lacking features, more about how the company is treating it's customers, they don't deserve the money just like a bad waitress wouldn't deserve a tip.[/QUOTE]
Haha, this is completely unrelated to your post, but that end part reminded me of Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs.
But, on topic, the reason there aren't invisible shields around the civilians is because, unlike swimming, getting rid of killing civilians would just destroy gameplay and only add marginal immersion.
It's a certain balance. While adding swimming/boats would add an incredibly low gameplay value, I suppose, they're so out of line with the immersion that it just really wouldn't be worth it.
(Course, this is all my opinion. It's not like I've spoken to the devs or whatever)
my demo stopped working, after i click "start demo" from the main menu it just loads forever.
anybody know whats wrong?
Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the (apparent) lack of a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1918_Browning_Automatic_Rifle"]BAR[/URL]?
Also, are you unable to use vehicle horns or is the keybind just not listed?
Horn is E by default I believe
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;24276757] Or taking your hat off with a suit in the 50s?[/QUOTE]
As unimportant as it may be, this is probably my biggest complaint about the game. I really dislike the hats, I'll end up wearing just a shirt or leather jacket the whole way through if I can't get a suit without a hat.
If someone could show me evidence of a suit without a hat in game (in recent gameplay rather than old trailers and screenshots), I would love them forever.
currently the only thing I don't like is the fact that
when you get hit by a car its a mere nudge, but when you hit
NPCs they go ragdoll, which is way more realisitc than looking
like a bus just nudged you out of its way, so why does vito
have this super power???
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wait, I know, [b]LAZINESS!![/b]
even cars are scared of the mafia
[QUOTE=badMedia;24277665]currently the only thing I don't like is the fact that
when you get hit by a car its a mere nudge, but when you hit
NPCs they go ragdoll, which is way more realisitc than looking
like a bus just nudged you out of its way, so why does vito
have this super power???
[editline]01:28AM[/editline]
wait, I know, [B]LAZINESS!![/B][/QUOTE]
For one thing, most of the people are driving under the speed limit, although I do agree that the nudge is incredibly unrealistic.
But then, GTA also had this same problem (Unless I have some sort of amnesia)
[QUOTE=Achilles123;24277718]But then, GTA also had this same problem (Unless I have some sort of amnesia)[/QUOTE]
GTA4 definitely didn't. The previous ones did though.
[QUOTE=imaguy;24278003]GTA4 definitely didn't. The previous ones did though.[/QUOTE]
Atleast you'd actually fall on the ground in previous gta's
[QUOTE=Contag;24274637]What a horrible ending, I can't believe Vito died.[/QUOTE]
I will fucking kill you.
[QUOTE=Deez nutz;24278761]I will fucking kill you.[/QUOTE]
Ditto
Yea i hope they fixed the getting hit by a car rag doll.
Ive gotten hit in the demo by a car going at least 50mph and it crashed as if Vito was a steel wall.
You can't tout immersion and have shit like that happen.
Geez at least make him hit the floor.
Four more days till it releases in the UK. Can't fucking wait.
[QUOTE=Deez nutz;24278761]I will fucking kill you.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to fucking kill [b]YOU[/b] for quoting it to this page.
[QUOTE=killz2much;24278964]I'm going to fucking kill [B]YOU[/B] for quoting it to this page.[/QUOTE]
The guy who posted that was being sarcastic or something because someone else said they don't like it when people spoil things. It's only a joke, calm yourselves.
[QUOTE=killz2much;24278964]I'm going to fucking kill [b]YOU[/b] for quoting it to this page.[/QUOTE]
I don't give a shit what page it's on. That's what spoiler tags are for, and I don't want the game spoiled for me.
[b]Edit:[/b]
still, it's annoying. I don't care if it's a joke or not.
ha if that was true then someone would have got it reomoved already
future note:
ppl who feel like they're giving out a bit too much info use ["sp][/sp]
[QUOTE=Deez nutz;24279069]I don't give a shit what page it's on. That's what spoiler tags are for, and I don't want the game spoiled for me.[/QUOTE]
And quoting it so people who avoided the spoiler is any better?
[QUOTE=badMedia;24277665]currently the only thing I don't like is the fact that
when you get hit by a car its a mere nudge, but when you hit
NPCs they go ragdoll, which is way more realisitc than looking
like a bus just nudged you out of its way, so why does vito
have this super power???
[editline]01:28AM[/editline]
wait, I know, [b]LAZINESS!![/b][/QUOTE]
Official statement from 2K:
[quote]Wiseguys didn't go into ragdoll, so we left it out for added realism[/quote]
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