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[QUOTE=Paramud;30083372]Yeah, betas should be perfect.[/QUOTE] Okay. Listen. We never said betas should be perfect. We do, however, expect some kind of quality with the updates. I don't remember an update for minecraft that ever fucked up SMP so badly as to it being unplayable for most of the community. I also expect a [i]timely[/i] fix to the problem. Notch going onto twitter after a day is okay, he did see that there were quite a few bugs. He should've found out much sooner after the majority of the minecraft community were outraged.

[QUOTE=Valnar;30083423]Paramud, tell us where we can submit our testing reports, because I would really like to know.[/QUOTE] Uh it seems like everyones posting about these bugs pretty regularly heh. Looks like they got reported.

[QUOTE=Valnar;30083423]Paramud, tell us where we can submit our testing reports, because I would really like to know.[/QUOTE] [url]www.twitter.com/notch[/url]

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083411]Ahem Besides that, I don't know. I'm not Notch.[/QUOTE] Oh my god please stop quoting yourself.

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083444]Uh it seems like everyones posting about these bugs pretty regularly heh. Looks like they got reported.[/QUOTE] But it seems like Notch doesn't listen to anyone in a timely fashion though.

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083453][url]www.twitter.com/notch[/url][/QUOTE] Yes, because he responded [i]so[/i] quickly when we told him over twitter.

nvm.

[QUOTE=Valnar;30083423]Paramud, tell us where we can submit our testing reports, because I would really like to know.[/QUOTE] Mojang has a GetSatisfaction page [url]http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang[/url]

[QUOTE=Barrowsx;30083425]Okay. Listen. We never said betas should be perfect. We do, however, expect some kind of quality with the updates. I don't remember an update for minecraft that ever fucked up SMP so badly as to it being unplayable for most of the community. I also expect a [i]timely[/i] fix to the problem. Notch going onto twitter after a day is okay, he did see that there were quite a few bugs. He should've found out much sooner after the majority of the minecraft community were outraged.[/QUOTE] The thing I don't like about the rest of the Minecraft community is that none of them seem to care about the fact that Notch is a person with a life. If I was him, and people were demanding such devotion to the game that a bug wouldn't go on for more than a day without being fixed, I'd tell them to fuck off. I've got things I'd like to do for myself. Especially since he's engaged, or some shit. Gotta squeeze in some time for the Missus. [QUOTE=MangoJuice;30083465]Oh my god please stop quoting yourself.[/QUOTE] [quote=Paramud]No, it's easier on me than repeating what I've said several times.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083420]"I'm ignoring your argument and posting the same thing again" Game breaking bugs on a final release = Not acceptable. Game breaking bugs on a beta = Fixing it so that the final game isn't effected. Nobody cares if you can't play the beta unfortunately the beta isn't there to entertain you its there for you to test the game with so that the final release is stable and enjoyable.[/QUOTE] And I said: Notch made the decision to [B]SELL[/B] his game during development which makes us customers. We can complain whatever we want, I feel entitled to that. I know it's a development version but you don't leave a million people in the dark. I'm not going to bitch at Notch personally but he should employ better testing strategies in the future. Let's just hope he does learn a thing or two from this event.

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083486]The thing I don't like about the rest of the Minecraft community is that none of them seem to care about the fact that Notch is a person with a life. If I was him, and people were demanding such devotion to the game that a bug wouldn't go on for more than a day without being fixed, I'd tell them to fuck off. I've got things I'd like to do for myself. Especially since he's engaged, or some shit. Gotta squeeze in some time for the Missus.[/QUOTE] Well, he has a lot of money for his company because of us. If he just did his job properly in the first place, then we wouldn't be in this whole mess, now would we?

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083486]The thing I don't like about the rest of the Minecraft community is that none of them seem to care about the fact that Notch is a person with a life. If I was him, and people were demanding such devotion to the game that a bug wouldn't go on for more than a day without being fixed, I'd tell them to fuck off. I've got things I'd like to do for myself. Especially since he's engaged, or some shit. Gotta squeeze in some time for the Missus.[/QUOTE] Working at Minecraft is his JOB. He was playing Terraria at the office instead of working on Minecraft. I don't care what he does in his spare time, but when he is at WORK he should WORK. Also, he just released an update and tried to fix it 4 times, why didn't he check if the fix actually worked?

I'm still willing to give Notch the benefit of the doubt.

[QUOTE=Clavus;30083503]I'm not going to bitch at Notch personally but he should employ better testing strategies in the future.[/QUOTE] Or people to test. [QUOTE=Egonny;30083525]Working at Minecraft is his JOB. He was playing Terraria at the office instead of working on Minecraft. I don't care what he does in his spare time, but when he is at WORK he should WORK. Also, he just released an update and tried to fix it 4 times, why didn't he check if the fix actually worked?[/QUOTE] Because he was about to leave for that internet group talking whatever it was. He said on twitter that he could only stay around to fix bugs for about twenty minutes.

[QUOTE=magravn;30083483]Mojang has a GetSatisfaction page [url]http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang[/url][/QUOTE] And it is absolutely spammed with people complaining about the bugs. I doubt he ever visits that anyway.

[QUOTE=Valnar;30083467]But it seems like Notch doesn't listen to anyone in a timely fashion though.[/QUOTE] You aren't notch and he isn't the only persson (heh heh heh) that works on minecraft. I'm quite sure you don't work at Mojang so you wouldn't know how long it takes them to know about a bug, and how is one day not "Timely". I'm starting to think discussing this with the minecraft community is a lost cause you guys seem to be a bit on the fucking dull side.

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083541]Or people to test. Because he was about to leave for that internet group talking whatever it was. He said on twitter that he could only stay around to fix bugs for about twenty minutes.[/QUOTE] That doesn't account for the fact that he ignored both his Twitter and his GetSatisfaction thing in favor of playing Terraria.

[QUOTE=Stopper;30083623]That doesn't account for the fact that he ignored both his Twitter and his GetSatisfaction thing in favor of playing Terraria.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Paramud;30083486]The thing I don't like about the rest of the Minecraft community is that none of them seem to care about the fact that Notch is a person with a life. If I was him, and people were demanding such devotion to the game that a bug wouldn't go on for more than a day without being fixed, I'd tell them to fuck off. I've got things I'd like to do for myself. Especially since he's engaged, or some shit. Gotta squeeze in some time for the Missus.[/QUOTE] Fuck, even Gaben has WoW.

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083603]You aren't notch and he isn't the only persson (heh heh heh) that works on minecraft. I'm quite sure you don't work at Mojang so you wouldn't know how long it takes them to know about a bug, and how is one day not "Timely". I'm starting to think discussing this with the minecraft community is a lost cause you guys seem to be a bit on the fucking dull side.[/QUOTE] Actually Notch is the only person on Minecraft now, he did announce that. And I think playing terreria counts as not working on a bug fix.

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083372]Yeah, betas should be perfect.[/QUOTE] it doesn't need to be perfect but when it gets buggier than the "alpha test" then clearly the updates aren't being thoroughly tested prior to release

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083603]You aren't notch and he isn't the only persson (heh heh heh) that works on minecraft. I'm quite sure you don't work at Mojang so you wouldn't know how long it takes them to know about a bug, and how is one day not "Timely". I'm starting to think discussing this with the minecraft community is a lost cause you guys seem to be a bit on the fucking dull side.[/QUOTE]Notch is currently the only person working on Minecraft (jeb is on a side project at the moment I believe)

[QUOTE=Valnar;30083655]Actually Notch is the only person on Minecraft now, he did announce that.[/QUOTE] I'd like a source on that.

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083653]Fuck, even Gaben has WoW.[/QUOTE] Gaben isn't the only person working on Portal 2.

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;30083662]it doesn't need to be perfect but when it gets buggier than the "alpha test" then clearly the updates aren't being thoroughly tested prior to release[/QUOTE] Oh god damn it do I really have to say it again

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083674]I'd like a source on that.[/QUOTE] [url]http://notch.tumblr.com/page/2[/url]

[QUOTE=Paramud;30083653]Fuck, even Gaben has WoW.[/QUOTE] The last update was released on the 20th of April. I think he has had plenty of free time. And time to fix things. And time to test. And now when he actually needs to do something, he playing Terraria. Good riddance.

Notch doesn't have to be timely. Its a beta he can jack himself off for 4 months then fix everything right before the game launches if he wants to as long as the final product is working and enjoyable. You guys aren't entitled to shit.

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083714]Notch doesn't have to be timely. Its a beta he can jack himself off for 4 months then fix everything right before the game launches if he wants to as long as the final product is working and enjoyable. You guys aren't entitled to shit.[/QUOTE] I'm entitled to a working product that I paid for you ignorant twat!

[QUOTE=Higginz511;30083714]Notch doesn't have to be timely. Its a beta he can jack himself off for 4 months then fix everything right before the game launches if he wants to as long as the final product is working and enjoyable. You guys aren't entitled to shit.[/QUOTE]Of course he can do that but that would prove everything what people are saying, would it not?

[QUOTE=Stopper;30083726]I'm entitled to a working product that I paid for you ignorant twat![/QUOTE] Not if you paid for it before it was finished, and were never promised completely smooth sailing.