Minecraft MP Survival City V2

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23544889][img_thumb]http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr246/Mikedestruct/ww22010-07-2121-38-46-62.png?t=1279824275[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]

what does this have to do with anything ?:confused:

[Dreadwing93]

I'm working on a concept for a four-chambered trading booth.
[IMG]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5488/tradingbooth.png[/IMG]
It'd look something like this.

The blue levers are for locking the dark blue doors somehow so people don't come in and ruin everything. The dark gray doors open when both red levers are on, and the light gray ones open when otherwise.

Player one enters top left chamber, player two enters bottom right. doors are locked. Each player drops their offer in the horizontally adjacent chamber from them, and when an agreement is made, both players flip the red switch. the light gray doors close, and the dark gray doors open, allowing the players to grab their loots.

I was trying to reproduce this in game, but I'm not the best at wiring.

[DanRatherman]

I don't understand the stress on trading rooms. Unless trading isn't implemented they have no point at all. Even then you can just have an intermediary watch the transaction.

Also, if the storekeep is robbing people then I'm fairly sure they'll be out of business soon.

[ratman_122]

[QUOTE=DanRatherman;23545238]I don't understand the stress on trading rooms. Unless trading isn't implemented they have no point at all. Even then you can just have an intermediary watch the transaction.

Also, if the storekeep is robbing people then I'm fairly sure they'll be out of business soon.[/QUOTE]

There will be no trading implemented.

[Uberman77883]

Notch said there will be no advanced trading.

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Dreadwing93;23545113]picture+explanation
I was trying to reproduce this in game, but I'm not the best at wiring.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how the redstone works ~snip~ in a circuit but heres what i think you'll need to do [img_thumb]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/c8a1f3meh.png[/img_thumb]

each persons control closes there access to the room and opens the others, when both are sisfied they press switches and go, if one person doesnt press you can press your switch again to stop him in his tracks.

[editline]08:15PM[/editline]

[QUOTE=DanRatherman;23545238]I don't understand the stress on trading rooms. Unless trading isn't implemented they have no point at all. Even then you can just have an intermediary watch the transaction.

Also, if the storekeep is robbing people then I'm fairly sure they'll be out of business soon.[/QUOTE]

press Q
throw blocks in rooms
collect other persons blocks
[highlight]TRADING.[/highlight]

[ratman_122]

*snip, double post, internet freaked out*

[ZuXer]

[QUOTE=Dreadwing93;23545113]I'm working on a concept for a four-chambered trading booth.
[IMG]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5488/tradingbooth.png[/IMG]
It'd look something like this.

The blue levers are for locking the dark blue doors somehow so people don't come in and ruin everything. The dark gray doors open when both red levers are on, and the light gray ones open when otherwise.

Player one enters top left chamber, player two enters bottom right. doors are locked. Each player drops their offer in the horizontally adjacent chamber from them, and when an agreement is made, both players flip the red switch. the light gray doors close, and the dark gray doors open, allowing the players to grab their loots.

I was trying to reproduce this in game, but I'm not the best at wiring.[/QUOTE]

So it's basically Ragnarok Online/Runescape trading in a building?
Both put in what they want, both have to press a button, and only after that you can get your items traded.
Good idea.

[Nitrowing]

Yea but what happens when both parties are satisfied and one of them opens the others door and then the other guy just walks out without opening his. Trading houses will become prisons for the unwary.

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Nitrowing;23547243]Yea but what happens when both parties are satisfied and one of them opens the others door and then the other guy just walks out without opening his. Trading houses will become prisons for the unwary.[/QUOTE]

well there could be an escape hatch in the rooms with the stuff inside, say just a drop down by 6 blocks with water at the bottom

A I I I I
A I I I I
A X X X X
A X
A X
W
W/water A/air I/item space X/generic floor

this is looking at it from side on, the drop is so noone can get in bit people can get out.
EDIT:
also as far as i can make out from what you're saying, the doors to get out of the building are controlled by switches next t the doors, the individual rooms are controlled by each person.

[Nitrowing]

But that defeats the purpose of having locks. Then when one guy has got what he wants, instead of paying for it, he just flees out the convenient little escape chute.

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE=DanRatherman;23538507]I'm just hesitant to have a system that destroys all things tossed away. I think most things have a use beyond garbage. Gravel makes good filler for building and landscaping, sand makes glass, and saplings are good for tree-farming. Those are the only things I'd even consider throwing away and those are even somewhat useful.[/QUOTE]

use gravel for roads, use saplings to replant trees as soon as you cut them down

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Nitrowing;23547779]But that defeats the purpose of having locks. Then when one guy has got what he wants, instead of paying for it, he just flees out the convenient little escape chute.[/QUOTE]

you don't have to open the door to let him in the room, the idea i had was that each person has a switch controlling both doors to the room to the left of them when the switch is one way, you can get in and put stuff in, when turned the other way, your trader can get in and get the stuff, the same goes for his room, both people must watch each other putting the items in the rooms then after they are both satisfied at the same time open the doors to let the other person into your room, i suggest having a long corridor to get through so when the person starts running and hasnt opened his room yet, you can close yours before he gets there
in order to go into any more detail about this i would have to show my crappy ms paint skillz

(CREDIT TO DEADWING FOR THE BASE OF THIS IDEA)

[Oskutin]

I don't care about those trading booths, i woulnd't use them, i would just trade in street or in shop.

[Mamok Zalku]

I was wondering if I could join in?

[Dreadwing93]

I finished wiring my trading booth, I just put an And Gate deep in a hole, and then branched it to connect to each door. a lot simpler than I expected, really. The way I have it, you can't get in the room with the other person's items until both players hit the switch. After both switches have been pulled, you lose access to the door with your stuff and gain access to the door with the other person's stuff.

Getting stuck in the booth also won't be a problem because There is at all times an open door leading to a room with an exit.

I made a video, but It's uploading.

[Gregah]

[QUOTE=Mamok Zalku;23548379]I was wondering if I could join in?[/QUOTE]

Everyone is free to join in as long as you're remotely mature and can behave yourself. :)

[Mamok Zalku]

Awesome count me in.

[FreddiRox!]

With the sewers, I think that the lava burning it will ruin the fun of scavengening.
You could make it harder for scavengers by saying scavenging is a civil offence and they are sentenced to death via arrow to the head or something.
Oooh! Could you make a list of laws and consequences of breaking them :3:

I know i'm going to make one for the Imperial Kingdom

[Dreadwing93]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgy6I20Bhg[/media]

My trading booth, now in video form.

I don't think there should be a consequence for scavenging, it's just a bunch of junk that nobody wants anyway. That's why they flushed it down the toilet.

[FreddiRox!]

[QUOTE=Dreadwing93;23551106][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgy6I20Bhg[/media][/QUOTE]

How to bypass that;[list]
[*]Give a freind a sword
[*]Enter the chamber and insert goods
[*]When going to open then trade doors press wrong level and claim it was a accident
[*]Freind goes into chamber of the other trader and kills him
[*]Frein opens trade doors
MISSION COMPLETED[/list]

[Dreadwing93]

[QUOTE=FreddiRox!;23551211]How to bypass that;[list]
[*]Give a freind a sword
[*]Enter the chamber and insert goods
[*]When going to open then trade doors press wrong level and claim it was a accident
[*]Freind goes into chamber of the other trader and kills him
[*]Frein opens trade doors
MISSION COMPLETED[/list][/QUOTE]

If you hit the wrong lever it opens your door, not the opponent's.

[hgncommand]

Nice trading room

[Glent]

[QUOTE=FreddiRox!;23551211]How to bypass that;
[LIST]
[*]Give a freind a sword
[*]Enter the chamber and insert goods
[*]When going to open then trade doors press wrong level and claim it was a accident
[*]Freind goes into chamber of the other trader and kills him
[*]Frein opens trade doors
MISSION COMPLETED
[/LIST]
[/QUOTE]

If you were going to do that you could just kill him to begin with...

[FreddiRox!]

[QUOTE=Dreadwing93;23551443]If you hit the wrong lever it opens your door, not the opponent's.[/QUOTE]

Place TNT on outside of trade room
Wait untill the opponent has places his block and moved near enough to the TNT to die.
BOOM enter through blast hole take item

I know you guys will be like "JUST BAN HIM BEFORE HE GETS TO USE THIS EXPLOIT"
I promise I won't, all i'm doing is seeing how you could bypass it so the creator can edit it accordingly

[editline]01:02AM[/editline]

Tunnel under neath the valuable trading pit.
Pop up from it like a mole
Take item
Exit fill hole with lava so anyone following you... Gets burned

[editline]01:04AM[/editline]

I just came up with a trading idea, you can have a go at debunking it tommorow when I show you

[profan]

[QUOTE=FreddiRox!;23551607]Place TNT on outside of trade room
Wait untill the opponent has places his block and moved near enough to the TNT to die.
BOOM enter through blast hole take item

I know you guys will be like "JUST BAN HIM BEFORE HE GETS TO USE THIS EXPLOIT"
I promise I won't, all i'm doing is seeing how you could bypass it so the creator can edit it accordingly

[editline]01:02AM[/editline]

Tunnel under neath the valuable trading pit.
Pop up from it like a mole
Take item
Exit fill hole with lava so anyone following you... Gets burned

[editline]01:04AM[/editline]

I just came up with a trading idea, you can have a go at debunking it tommorow when I show you[/QUOTE]

What exploit, it's just you being retarded?

[FreddiRox!]

[QUOTE=Profanwolf;23551704]What exploit, it's just you being retarded?[/QUOTE]

A exploit in there trading system.
Also, Im not being retarded, Im giving ways of bypassing this safe trading system so the creator can work on it.
I wouldn't dare use these techniques unless I was playing as some minge or [i]gangster[/i] (Like in GTA:IV where you are the watch men on drug deals, thats where I got the bow and arrow one from)

[editline]01:19AM[/editline]

But like seriously, though if there was a watchman or it was in the view of a public area then its a perfectly safe system I guess.
Nice one.

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[xxfalconxx]

so guys, what's your standing with mercenary work? cause that's probably what i'm going to do.

[ManningQB18]

Nerdy, why am I not in the OP? Update it now!