What the shit is this, I don't want to hear about lord of the rings, I want skyrim IGN. What happened?!
Episode 3, what do you think guys? will Gabe Newell magically roll onto the stage like a white knight?!
[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;30334982]What the shit is this, I don't want to hear about lord of the rings, I want skyrim IGN. What happened?![/QUOTE]
I thought the same but this look pretty interesting.
[QUOTE=Specter;30334947]So because they're a software company they should not try to innovate anything?[/QUOTE]
I never said anything even pertaining to that.
[QUOTE=Hazrd24;30334800]You can say they are milking it, but hell they are doing things differently with all variations. They're not on the same console so they all have something unique in them by using what the certain console has. Mario Kart Wii uses the motion control, DS version uses the second screen, 3DS is adding in the 3D, they are all a different experience with a different console.[/QUOTE]
Stop using Call of Duty as an argument because everyone already knows the huge mistake that's going on there. Like I said before, one small tweak to the game doesn't call for another release. But even for Call of Duty, DARE I SAY IT, but, it at leasts gives people a new story/multiplayer/new shitty features. Nintendo is just giving a constant hail of handhelds on top of that with a constant hail of the same games. The only thing I'd like right now is a new F-Zero.
[QUOTE=lukepker;30335023]Episode 3, what do you think guys? will Gabe Newell magically roll onto the stage like a white knight?![/QUOTE]
Like he did last year when they announced Portal 2 for PS3? That would be awesome.
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335066]Stop using Call of Duty as an argument because everyone already knows the huge mistake that's going on there. Like I said before, one small tweak to the game doesn't call for another release. But even for Call of Duty, DARE I SAY IT, but, it at leasts gives people a new story/multiplayer/new shitty features. Nintendo is just giving a constant hail of handhelds on top of that with a constant hail of the same games. The only thing I'd like right now is a new F-Zero.[/QUOTE]
No, Call of Duty is the same boring game every year. Each main Mario game is innovative. There's also the fact that there's only one main Mario game every few years.
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335066]Stop using Call of Duty as an argument because everyone already knows the huge mistake that's going on there. Like I said before, one small tweak to the game doesn't call for another release. But even for Call of Duty, DARE I SAY IT, but, it at leasts gives people a new story/multiplayer/new shitty features. Nintendo is just giving a constant hail of handhelds on top of that with a constant hail of the same games. The only thing I'd like right now is a new F-Zero.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the various Nintendo games following a franchise also have different storylines and gameplay (often completely overhauled). The handhelds, while, albeit, incredibly similar, have new features added each time.
[QUOTE=Funky Pickle;30335158]No, Call of Duty is the same boring game every year. Each main Mario game is innovative. There's also the fact that there's only one main Mario game every few years.[/QUOTE]
New Mario Kart features:
Change your wheel size.
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335066]Stop using Call of Duty as an argument because everyone already knows the huge mistake that's going on there. Like I said before, one small tweak to the game doesn't call for another release. But even for Call of Duty, DARE I SAY IT, but, it at leasts gives people a new story/multiplayer/new shitty features. Nintendo is just giving a constant hail of handhelds on top of that with a constant hail of the same games. The only thing I'd like right now is a new F-Zero.[/QUOTE]
So have you ever played a Nintendo game? You're describing them as being the EXACT same game ported to the other consoles, which isn't the case. I'm shocked that you just tried to justify the milking of the Call of Duty series with excuse that they at least have "different story/campaigns".
Each new Mario game has a new and fun world/experience. Each new Zelda has a slightly new story and world/gameplay mechanics. Each Mario kart has more/different characters, new gameplay and different tracks. You're beginning to sound incredibly ignorant and biased.
-Also, I like you straight up ignored the PsP statement as well.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;30335185]Actually, the various Nintendo games following a franchise also have different storylines and gameplay (often completely overhauled). The handhelds, while, albeit, incredibly similar, have new features added each time.[/QUOTE]
Then why not wait until they have a lot of new features for that handheld instead of just one tiny one for a release?
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335066]Stop using Call of Duty as an argument because everyone already knows the huge mistake that's going on there. Like I said before, one small tweak to the game doesn't call for another release. But even for Call of Duty, DARE I SAY IT, but, it at leasts gives people a new story/multiplayer/new shitty features. Nintendo is just giving a constant hail of handhelds on top of that with a constant hail of the same games. The only thing I'd like right now is a new F-Zero.[/QUOTE]
I said gameplay-wise, different machanics to toy around with. Like using the Wii-mote for galaxy instead of a controller. In space so you have the trippy gravity and other shit like that, the player is going have to change the way he plays the game to start playing it well. I can play CoD4 and CoD7 exactly the same way. They are pretty much the exact same controls. And DARE I SAY IT, but there are new stories with the Nintendo characters. But I can see what you mean due to the 3DS re-releasing a bunch of games but with the 3D feature, 2 screens and different controls, but I don't mind this because now it's on a portable and could play it anywhere if I actually owned a 3DS. I can see your point but disagree with you for the most part
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335191]New Mario Kart features:
Change your wheel size.[/QUOTE]
Not a main Mario game, fool.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;30334922]I think the the whole CoD milking is Activision, a multinational corporation's fault. Not so much Infinity Ward or Treyarch.[/QUOTE]
That is what I getting at. Activision is one of those publishers where if they think that a game being developed is not "good" for the name/direction they are taking/etc. bullshit, they would gladly liquify the developer and put them out on the street without a dime. A lot of game developers don't have the assets for being an independent name (ie. Valve), so they have to rely on publishers like Activision to make games at all. CoD in its current state is mostly the publishers fault.
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30334657]Only thing I can think of that is recent is PS3-PS3 Slim, Xbox360-Xbox 360 Slim. Nintendo goes overboard.[/QUOTE]
Well, the PSP had 3/4 different models (Not including the PSP Go) :v:
[QUOTE=Kiamberm;30335198]So have you ever played a Nintendo game? You're describing them as being the EXACT same game, ported to the other consoles which isn't the case. I'm shocked that you just tried to justify the milking of the Call of Duty series with excuse that they at least have "different story/campaigns".
Each new Mario game has a new and fun world/experience. Each new Zelda has a slightly new story and world/gameplay mechanics. Each Mario kart has more/different characters, new gameplay and different tracks. You're beginning to sound incredibly ignorant and biased.
-Also, I like you straight up ignored the PsP statement as well.[/QUOTE]
I didn't justify anything. I said Call of Duty milking is slightly less shittier than Nintendo milking. And it's not innovative at all. Imagine Nintendo sitting in their board room thinking of great new ways to get people to buy their products, new innovating games, etc. The entire room is quiet, and suddenly one of them is courageous enough to murmur the name "Mario". Every time, every year, that's all it is. Tell me how that is at all a great idea and how it's not "milking".
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335191]New Mario Kart features:
Change your wheel size.[/QUOTE]
you're just trying too hard now
inb4 "lol nintendo guy"
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335396]I didn't justify anything. I said Call of Duty milking is slightly less shittier than Nintendo milking. And it's not innovative at all. Imagine Nintendo sitting in their board room thinking of great new ways to get people to buy their products, new innovating games, etc. The entire room is quiet, and suddenly one of them is courageous enough to murmur the name "Mario". Every time, every year, that's all it is. Tell me how that is at all a great idea and how it's not "milking".[/QUOTE]
Alright, I'll admit they're milking Mario. Mario sports games are...ugh.
Still, the main Mario games are normally the best games of the year, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=BadderSanta;30335297]That is what I getting at. Activision is one of those publishers where if they think that a game being developed is not "good" for the name/direction they are taking/etc. bullshit, they would gladly liquify the developer and put them out on the street without a dime. A lot of game developers don't have the assets for being an independent name (ie. Valve), so they have to rely on publishers like Activision to make games at all. CoD in its current state is mostly the publishers fault.[/QUOTE]
I agree that it's the publishers fault, but that doesn't give us a reason not to compare Nintendo's games and Activision's games
They are both game companies making games, that's comparison. And then we can compare the games
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335396]I didn't justify anything. I said Call of Duty milking is slightly less shittier than Nintendo milking. And it's not innovative at all. Imagine Nintendo sitting in their board room thinking of great new ways to get people to buy their products, new innovating games, etc. The entire room is quiet, and suddenly one of them is courageous enough to murmur the name "Mario". Every time, every year, that's all it is. Tell me how that is at all a great idea and how it's not "milking".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hazrd24;30334800]You can say they are milking it, but hell they are doing things differently with all variations.[/QUOTE]
The main reason I think Nintendo's milking is a lot better than Activision's milking
so did any skyrim related stuff happen today?
[QUOTE=Funky Pickle;30335497]Alright, I'll admit they're milking Mario. Mario sports games are...ugh.
Still, the main Mario games are normally the best games of the year, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
End of discussion.
[QUOTE=Stripez;30335521]so did any skyrim related stuff happen today?[/QUOTE]
Not yet.
facepunch marketing: i don't like it why are they selling it? me me me me
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335396]I didn't justify anything. I said Call of Duty milking is slightly less shittier than Nintendo milking. And it's not innovative at all. Imagine Nintendo sitting in their board room thinking of great new ways to get people to buy their products, new innovating games, etc. The entire room is quiet, and suddenly one of them is courageous enough to murmur the name "Mario". Every time, every year, that's all it is. Tell me how that is at all a great idea and how it's not "milking".[/QUOTE]
You're getting desperate. Come back when you've actually played the last few main mario/zelda/kart games, Tizz.
-and once again, way to ignore the argument that the PsP was equally milked as the DS.
You toss out some silly idea of how you interpret the development cycle of Mario games and then you ask for a justification from me? Why would I spend any amount of effort and time replying to you when you obviously spend no amount of effort trying to explain your reasoning and point of view. On top of that you completely ignore any thing we've been pointing out.
"ya but mario is simple an i bet the devs just do it evry year" is not an argument.
Take your overly-exaggerated examples back to high school.
[QUOTE=TizzYcho;30335580]End of discussion.[/QUOTE]
Right, why present sound argument and reasoning when you can just turn up your nose and go "no im rite".
[QUOTE=Jzzb;30334596]So what did Sony or Microsoft do to win E3 over Nintendo?
A new CoD game? Uncharted 3? More Kinect shovelshit?
Nintendo won E3.[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'm sorry, but this statement fills me with fury. You haven't even seen the others yet but you're claiming "Nintendo won E3". Bullshit. If you've watched all the conferences I'd respect your opinion, but come the fuck on. Do the research before you hit the conclusion.
[QUOTE=Kiamberm;30335609]You're getting desperate. Come back when you've actually played the last few games, Tizz.
-and once again, way to ignore the argument that the PsP was equally milked as the DS.
You toss out some silly idea of how you interpret the development cycle of Mario games and then you ask for a justification from me? Why would I spend any amount of effort and time replying to you when you obviously spend no amount of effort trying to explain your reasoning and point of view. On top of that you completely ignore any thing we've been pointing out.
"ya but mario is simple an i bet the devs just do it evry year" is not an argument.
Take your overly-exaggerated examples back to high school.[/QUOTE]
Why would I clarify when all of us already witnessed it? Nintendo pulled the same games out their ass they do every year and people are somehow impressed. Need I say more?
[QUOTE=Hazrd24;30335517]I agree that it's the publishers fault, but that doesn't give us a reason not to compare Nintendo's games and Activision's games
They are both game companies making games, that's comparison. And then we can compare the games
The main reason I think Nintendo's milking is a lot better than Activision's milking[/QUOTE]Well technically, you are comparing games developed by these game developers and those developed by an entire corporation. Activision doesn't develop shit. They just look over IW/Treyarch's shoulders, cut out good, new features that would make some old CoD fans come back. Then say things like "But I liked that in last game, you should make it come back." An employee then rises to say something in disagreement, Kotick holds his/her employment papers and puts his thumb on the Terms of Service agreement. Random employee then sits down and puts Painkiller back in.
Is there a good stream streaming the demos for skyrim and saints row?
I think it's kind of stupid that Nintendo is just NOW releasing a console that can compete with the current generation. When Microsoft and Sony release the next generation, Nintendo won't have shit and will be left behind.
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