Heroes of Newerth - Insta-lock Scout, level Codex to 5 - Games

Fuck S2 I'm getting tired of getting disconnected from chat server, how do I fix this shit?

[QUOTE=Shortyish;30387111]i still think amun-ra is broken... every time i play support, the rest of my team doesn't bother picking any mana burning heroes or even buying nullfire. it's ridiculous how one hero can change your whole build as a carry, and if you don't get enough farm early game it's pretty hard to do enough damage for the nullfire to matter anyway.[/QUOTE] The secret to defeating Ra isn't to get mana burn heroes/items it's: a) Don't feed him early on (which is where most pubs fail) b) Don't be so passive. c) Don't target him first in a team fight. Ra only seems broken because he's a hero that rewards aggressiveness and makes you play that way - all heroes reward aggressiveness really, but pubs tend to play very passive, they don't want to push they want to farm that Next Big Item(tm). The really good players who dominate pub games and climb MMR fast are the ones who get aggressive on heroes and control the flow of the game. Ra is designed in such a way that even the dumbest pub goes balls to the walls aggressive and other (passive) players just get destroyed and feed him.

This is cool. [img]http://i.imgur.com/5M6u7.jpg[/img] [url]http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=212549[/url]

A new Deskop image. Just what I needed, thanks. Also, some amazing wallpapers: [url]http://wallbase2.org/rozne/dce4c3fe21aae8cf96a5623499d70a23/wallpaper-772169.jpg[/url] [url]http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/803819[/url]

I've been avoiding playing carries like it's the plague, and then I did a no stats single draft and got stuck with night hound. Surprisingly fun

Are the servers down again? can't login. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] On another note ; I've been rocking lately with BH, carrying team to victory and turning games around thanks to my performance, proud of myself - I think it's time to move to ranked games to get rid of my 1k psr.

[QUOTE=Ranik;30381803]You find treants which let you jungle the Dragon Ancients at level 1 (maintaining as much or even more gold/xp as the solo mid via jungling) and Kongor easily solo at Level 7, give you basically free guaranteed perma invis rune with Q, give you free +60 Movement speed and +60 Attack Speed, and have 500 health & 25 damage for even more damage on your ult & crazy pushing potential that rivals any other pusher useless? OK then. e: they are like, incredibly ridiculous and will probably get nerfed ASAP in health. and not allow you to have 10 (15 with resto) of them at once.[/QUOTE] I was mulling over what I said yesterday dumb and yes I agree, its makes them invaluable for jungling. Wasn't aware they affect your camo and such aswell.

I played with the new KotF on my team this morning. He went Elder Parasite. -_- He pushed towers like a boss but sucked asshole at everything else.

[QUOTE=Banned?;30395743]I played with the new KotF on my team this morning. He went Elder Parasite. -_- He pushed towers like a boss but sucked asshole at everything else.[/QUOTE] I like to get Ghost Marchers, Whispering Helm and then disassemble them into Elder and Insart.

Elder AND Inasn?? Nigga you crazy. No, really. Bad idea. EP should only be used on Chronos, MAYBE Rampage. Why? Because Chronos can freeze time and has an auto-attack stun. Tree has nothing of the sort and it's dumb.

Whenever i play keeper (only when i random him) i go steamboots and PK and initiate like mad

Carry of the Forest was really good with EP. After the new passive he got if you still go EP you are literally dumb. Should be going after big damage items like Savage Mace.

[QUOTE=Jimmyshimmy;30396022]Whenever i play keeper (only when i random him) i go steamboots and PK and initiate like mad[/QUOTE] That's how you should be doing it. Or at least pre-patch. Dunno now. I'd be tempted now to play him like Balph now. Plated Greaves, Abysal Skull, gogo minions.

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[QUOTE=Banned?;30396664]That's how you should be doing it. Or at least pre-patch. Dunno now. I'd be tempted now to play him like Balph now. Plated Greaves, Abysal Skull, gogo minions.[/QUOTE] Keeper was an insane solo mid carry before actually. In fact, the only hero who could reliably damage him out of lane was Silhouette with her Salvo lol. It was very boring, LH like mad, get mad farm, gank side lanes with invis + ult, carry items. How I play him now is grab W and a Ring of the Teacher (+ mana pot if you're bad). Check your ancients -> if dragons do them. If not, go do a normal jungle route for a bit. Literally the easiest jungle in the game, you have massive HP treants to tank for you, if you die or can't jungle with this dude you should probably uninstall or something. R > W > Q > E (have 1 point of E though by 6). First big item you grab is Abyssal. At level 7 you should have your Treants maxed out. Simple question check: Is the other team bad? - Go to the Hellbourne forest near Kongor, summon treants. When the cooldown comes off, summon more treants. Now fight Kongor with 10 treants tanking, make sure to have the ones that will expire tank damage first. Is the other team not bad - Start ganking. After that, you should grab Plated Greaves and now you have another simple process check: Do I have ult? - Use your Q on yourself and a Treant to have perma invis. Gank with your ult. Is my ult down? - Push lanes/towers with your 5-10 treants. If anyone comes you invis yourself and have a treant or two follow you. gg. After Abyssal + Plated you should grab whatever you might need, going for big damage items like Savage Mace etc is helpful since you should be able to murder like 2-3 people with your ult with the AS the treants give you.

Played my last game as Plague Rider, I had constant connection problem. I still managed to go 9-0-2 plague y u so easy

[QUOTE=Ranik;30396368]Carry of the Forest was really good with EP. After the new passive he got if you still go EP you are literally dumb. Should be going after big damage items like Savage Mace.[/QUOTE] I've only played him once to see if the build worked. I'll probably be going along with Raniks style now, he's a great jungler clearly

I always got Frostburn or Brutalizer to counter him having no reliable stun/slow for chasing.

Hey Ranik could you post your skill list/ item list

I just had the best game ever as Blood Hunter It was no stats because I'm too scrub for MM but wow I must have had 18+ kills. lost because two of my team was trial players who didn't know how to play at all but wow once you get rolling on a champ like that there's no stopping you ps how the fuck do you beat nomad? Incredible damage and get away every time what must I do?

Corrupted's tide is so awesome. [editline]12th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Errorproxy;30396804][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YtmCsHSNpM[/media][/QUOTE] thebadboy91, late? Are you serious?

[QUOTE=NoShogun;30403978]I just had the best game ever as Blood Hunter It was no stats because I'm too scrub for MM but wow I must have had 18+ kills. lost because two of my team was trial players who didn't know how to play at all but wow once you get rolling on a champ like that there's no stopping you ps how the fuck do you beat nomad? Incredible damage and get away every time what must I do?[/QUOTE] keep nomad down early is all i can really say. may i also say that the blood hunter changes were [I]completely[/I] unnecessary? he was just underplayed, not underpowered, and carried like a motherfucking monster if he got the proper farm

What the fuck is up with these servers, is it only down for me again? -.- Hooray! Either servers are back up, or my shit bugged out.

Shit's lagging horribly like every fucking day, can't login for hours or chat is being a faggot & disconnecting.

[QUOTE=NoShogun;30403978]I just had the best game ever as Blood Hunter It was no stats because I'm too scrub for MM but wow I must have had 18+ kills. lost because two of my team was trial players who didn't know how to play at all but wow once you get rolling on a champ like that there's no stopping you ps how the fuck do you beat nomad? Incredible damage and get away every time what must I do?[/QUOTE] He has no stun or slow or anything reliable to keep him in range. Either buy a PK or a disable to nullify his damage.

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;30404278]keep nomad down early is all i can really say. may i also say that the blood hunter changes were [I]completely[/I] unnecessary? he was just underplayed, not underpowered, and carried like a motherfucking monster if he got the proper farm[/QUOTE] A capable team could easily counter a fed Blood Hunter, you just had to stop him from eating.

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;30404028]Corrupted's tide is so awesome. [editline]12th June 2011[/editline] thebadboy91, late? Are you serious?[/QUOTE] Random rating, don't be hating.

[QUOTE=Eluveitie;30405127]He has no stun or slow or anything reliable to keep him in range. Either buy a PK or a disable to nullify his damage.[/QUOTE] He has some dash thing doesn't he?

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;30401786]Hey Ranik could you post your skill list/ item list[/QUOTE] I'm still experimenting and I'm not too good but this has been working for me: [b]Jungle.[/b] You are wasting Keeper's potential in lane. R > W > Q > E WEWQWRW (grab Q earlier if you expect ganks) Ring of Teacher (+1 MP Pot if bad) Dragon ancients if they spawn, otherwise normal jungle. Abyssal Skull Do Kongor if enemy team is dumb @ lv7 with 10 treants, otherwise gank w/ ult. Plated Greaves Gank if your ulti is about to come up while Invising yourself with Q. Push whenever ulti is down, push lanes, push towers. Make sure to grab your 10 treants when pushing towers and shield them all. You should be able to get at least 5-6 towers down by 30 minutes. You have a completely safe push/backdoor with your Q. If anyone comes, leave 9 treants on the tower and take 1 with you. Anything after is whatever you want. All good things to get: Savage Mace, Portal Key, Shrunken Head, Frostburn, Puzzlebox, Refresher Stone (15 treants = lol), etc. Countered by: AoE team comps, slows (although you can just Q yourself by a tree and catch up to someone with your treants sometimes). Best tip: Just like any non-support hero, [b]be aggressive.[/b] If you're ANY good with Amun-Ra, take the mentality you get from playing him and apply it to Keeper (and every other non-support hero). OK, maybe don't dive towers so much, but get some huge balls and go huge. Don't be a pussy, don't do jack shit and just try to farm your Next Big Item, always be ganking/pushing. Keeper has the full on capability to absolutely dominate mid game, and if you aren't making the other team your bitch or throwing them into complete disarray with your basically unstoppable (without paying gold anyways!) pushes, you're doing Keeper wrong. If you're pro (unlike me) you could farm jungle and a sidelane with your treants at the same time once you level up enough. They don't have a leash range.

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