yes, destructibility indeed
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[quote]I like how there's freeaim in RO, but I wish you would be able to move your head with your gun
I mean, that's how I would move my head.[/quote]Wouldn't work too well, but it would be cool if they had designed it from the start. Most view models (arms and gun) are cut off around the elbows, so if you could move your head you'd see your arms cut off at the elbows. In ArmA they've got the entire body in the view model so that system works perfectly, but most games dont do it like that.
[QUOTE=JerryK;29539682]treating a game like it's real life lol
[editline]30th April 2011[/editline]
in response to the whole "yes sir" and ranks bullshit i meant[/QUOTE]
pretty sure the members get kicked out if they choose any class but rifleman. better classes for the pubbies though
Guys! We need to lighten up, so i'll tell a joke.
[sp]29th[/sp]
If a server asks players to please refrain from cursing, then why is that such a big deal? Just because the game may use explicit language doesn't mean the rules the server administrators ask you to follow are overruled. The server admins have the right to enforce their own rules, if you don't like it then why stick around?
[QUOTE=Reimu;29547854]If a server asks players to please refrain from cursing, then why is that such a big deal? Just because the game may use explicit language doesn't mean the rules the server administrators ask you to follow are overruled. The server admins have the right to enforce their own rules, if you don't like it then why stick around?[/QUOTE]
It's just stupid in general.
[QUOTE=Reimu;29547854]If a server asks players to please refrain from cursing, then why is that such a big deal? Just because the game may use explicit language doesn't mean the rules the server administrators ask you to follow are overruled. The server admins have the right to enforce their own rules, if you don't like it then why stick around?[/QUOTE]
I'm just wondering if you saw the discussion and just came in here to comment, because if you actually played Darkest hour you would know it's really the only populated infantry server.
Also no ones complaining they they don't have the right to, it's just a stupid rule considering its a M rated game and you have limbs flying off peoples body's so to make the rule for no swearing for I guess a more appropriate environment for kids makes no sense.
I was playing on one of the TWB servers for Red Orchestra and there was a guy yelling on the mic and swearing, although it was funny, for me it also added to the immersion for a WWII setting
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;29548263]I'm just wondering if you saw the discussion and just came in here to comment, because if you actually played Darkest hour you would know it's really the only populated infantry server.
Also no ones complaining they they don't have the right to, it's just a stupid rule considering its a M rated game and you have limbs flying off peoples body's so to make the rule for no swearing for I guess a more appropriate environment for kids makes no sense.
I was playing on one of the TWB servers for Red Orchestra and there was a guy yelling on the mic and swearing, although it was funny, for me it also added to the immersion for a WWII setting[/QUOTE]
I imagine there was quite a bit of swearing and yelling in dubyadubya two
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;29548263]I'm just wondering if you saw the discussion and just came in here to comment, because if you actually played Darkest hour you would know it's really the only populated infantry server.
Also no ones complaining they they don't have the right to, it's just a stupid rule considering its a M rated game and you have limbs flying off peoples body's so to make the rule for no swearing for I guess a more appropriate environment for kids makes no sense.
I was playing on one of the TWB servers for Red Orchestra and there was a guy yelling on the mic and swearing, although it was funny, for me it also added to the immersion for a WWII setting[/QUOTE]
I'll be honest, I did read a chunk of the thread and I came across that. And I will say some of the aspects of the 29th sound awful - such as the poor admin communication and lack of rank understanding. My bigger question though is, why is it really worth getting upset about? I've run into a lot of communities getting upset when a server limits rules to make them "kid friendly" or etc., and I've always found that somewhat mindboggling to get upset over. Not that I don't respect the right for people to get upset, but, I mean, is it really a big deal when a server lays down those sort of rules?
i'm pretty sure no one here is actually upset, we're just making fun of some losers, that's what facepunch is all about
[QUOTE=Reimu;29548591]I'll be honest, I did read a chunk of the thread and I came across that. And I will say some of the aspects of the 29th sound awful - such as the poor admin communication and lack of rank understanding. My bigger question though is, why is it really worth getting upset about? I've run into a lot of communities getting upset when a server limits rules to make them "kid friendly" or etc., and I've always found that somewhat mindboggling to get upset over. Not that I don't respect the right for people to get upset, but, I mean, is it really a big deal when a server lays down those sort of rules?[/QUOTE]
Swearing happens all the time. People just do it without thinking and being punished for it is silly. It isn't the server owners job to cater for any potential kids.
They aren't the kid's parent so why go out of their way to enforce a silly rule? If they are bothered by swearing then they need to get a grip.
back on topic now please? what the fuck?
nothing new about RO2 to talk about
[QUOTE=spekter;29550504]Swearing happens all the time. People just do it without thinking and being punished for it is silly. It isn't the server owners job to cater for any potential kids.
They aren't the kid's parent so why go out of their way to enforce a silly rule? If they are bothered by swearing then they need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]
Accidents happen, and not forgiving an accident is something I understand getting upset about, but some server owners do like to have language on their server that is "clean." Using words like "shit" "fuck" "cunt" etc just have such a negative societal reputation that some owners don't want it thrown around on their servers. It makes the atmosphere feel hostile, not welcoming. I know, personally, I would try to enforce less swearing on a server I was an admin for: albeit loosely. Other admins are just mindful of the fact that kids will be playing anyway, M rated or whatever (most of us were playing M rated games when we were tots anyway :v: ). But that's a completely different argument for another time <:.
[QUOTE=Reimu;29552186]Accidents happen, and not forgiving an accident is something I understand getting upset about, but some server owners do like to have language on their server that is "clean." Using words like "shit" "fuck" "cunt" etc just have such a negative societal reputation that some owners don't want it thrown around on their servers. It makes the atmosphere feel hostile, not welcoming. I know, personally, I would try to enforce less swearing on a server I was an admin for: albeit loosely. Other admins are just mindful of the fact that kids will be playing anyway, M rated or whatever (most of us were playing M rated games when we were tots anyway :v: ). But that's a completely different argument for another time <:.[/QUOTE]
29th? Trying to make it [B]welcoming [/B]by enforcing no swearing rule?
:v:
[QUOTE=Reimu;29548591]some of the aspects of the 29th sound awful - such as the poor admin communication and lack of rank understanding.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you'll actually take these "pubbers" perspective on the issue and not someone who was actually in the unit for two years. This is one of those things that you have to see it to believe it I guess.
Most of these guys don't honestly know what it's like in the 29th at all. They laugh at the concepts of saluting and saying "sir" in a video game when that's the whole point of being in the unit. You're willing to let your inner soldier have its fun and follow the basic fundamentals that make up this sort of thing. It's like reinacting, to a degree. In fact, I'd even say it's on a similiar plane of commitment.
Yet as we criticise the aspects of a realism unit, we all sit here in a thread that's about a [B]realistic[/B] game. You know, trying to be like real life and immerse yourself by putting you in an infantryman's boots in a game once toting "Infantry simulator" as it's tagline.
[QUOTE=Reimu;29552186]Accidents happen, and not forgiving an accident is something I understand getting upset about, but some server owners do like to have language on their server that is "clean." Using words like "shit" "fuck" "cunt" etc just have such a negative societal reputation that some owners don't want it thrown around on their servers. It makes the atmosphere feel hostile, not welcoming. I know, personally, I would try to enforce less swearing on a server I was an admin for: albeit loosely. Other admins are just mindful of the fact that kids will be playing anyway, M rated or whatever (most of us were playing M rated games when we were tots anyway :v: ). But that's a completely different argument for another time <:.[/QUOTE]
These people have exaggerated the degree of the enforcement. If you even read the rules for the servers of the 29th (for example, the 29th is the center of attention here anyway) they say to keep swearing to a [B]minimum[/B]. Plenty of leniency abound. But hey, lets not take my word for it because I'm the guy getting singled out for the good time I had.
You're not really being singled out. You think you have to have the final say and change everyones opinion of them. Just drop it and leave. If you're going to stand up for them do it as an actual member.
As someone who has never played a 'realistic' shooter, do you guys think I will enjoy this game? The most "realistic" I've played would probably be Day of Defeat... which doesn't really count. Is this game going to have free weekends so I can try it out?
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;29554888]
These people have exaggerated the degree of the enforcement. If you even read the rules for the servers of the 29th (for example, the 29th is the center of attention here anyway) they say to keep swearing to a [B]minimum[/B]. Plenty of leniency abound. But hey, lets not take my word for it because I'm the guy getting singled out for the good time I had.[/QUOTE]
I got kicked for saying "shit sorry", it was literally the only time I swore on the server and to be honest if whoever kicked me had seen how badly I messed up, he would've warranted it totally acceptable.
But how can you be a realism unit without swearing? Soldiers do it all the time :v:
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;29555190]But how can you be a realism unit without swearing? Soldiers do it all the time :v:[/QUOTE]
It's ironic when their minimum membership age is also 15
[QUOTE=Nikota;29554924]You're not really being singled out. You think you have to have the final say and change everyones opinion of them. Just drop it and leave. If you're going to stand up for them do it as an actual member.[/QUOTE]
What? I've already said that you could believe what you believe and that it's not going to change much. But when people start to say things about the fundamentals of the unit like saluting sergeants [QUOTE=Craig Willmore;29535196]...salute each other over the internet, and they can't even do that right. I saw a Cpl. and two PFCs saluting a SGT. They don't even know their own rules..[/QUOTE], going to different servers and telling others to "stop swearing" (lolwut?) [QUOTE=JerryK;29521866]i was playing on some random Russian or something server the other day and a 29th member was on there telling some guy to stop swearing, everyone basically laughed at him and told him to go back to the 29th server
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then something needs to be said because it's flat out wrong and make no sense. No offense but who are you to tell me to drop it when this shouldn't even have gone on for two pages? This should have stopped after 61905 told you guys to stop being dumbasses really because he's pretty much concluded the situation rather nicely [QUOTE=69105;29536553]this is a dumb post. jim_riley is backing up how the 29th was before they turned to elitist dickheads. you guys are just over-reacting like you ALWAYS do because you want something to cry about. shut the fuck up and get over it. i love how this thread goes from RO2 praise to retards jumping in flailing their arms, pulling the tile out of the ground to have a spaz-attack at the smallest roach just to call up the exterminator and say he didn't do a good enough job when it's not his fault that the person found a dead roach and proceeds to create a stink about it.[/QUOTE]
No doubt in my mind that the 29th is different from what it was two years or so ago but there's still 29th fundamentals that have been upheld from the DoD days and so forth and that's where the disagreeing comes in. I never said that your [b]opinions[/b] are wrong, I can't, because it's an opinion but there's a difference between an opinion and a statement.
But I guess you're all just bored so why not take a few pot shots, right?
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;29555525]What? I've already said that you could believe what you believe and that it's not going to change much. But when people start to say things about the fundamentals of the unit like saluting sergeants , going to different servers and telling others to "stop swearing" (lolwut?)
then something needs to be said because it's flat out wrong and make no sense. No offense but who are you to tell me to drop it when this shouldn't even have gone on for two pages? This should have stopped after 61905 told you guys to stop being dumbasses really because he's pretty much concluded the situation rather nicely
No doubt in my mind that the 29th is different from what it was two years or so ago but there's still 29th fundamentals that have been upheld from the DoD days and so forth and that's where the disagreeing comes in. I never said that your [b]opinions[/b] are wrong, I can't, because it's an opinion but there's a difference between an opinion and a statement.
But I guess you're all just bored so why not take a few pot shots, right?[/QUOTE]
I don't know why you are still going on about this, seriously you lost all credibility ever since you said you haven't been there is 2 years.
Also if you think people opinions are wrong then why did you say in your last post that we are exaggerating and don't know what were talking about, contradictions much?
You just keep going on about how people who played in there server a day ago are wrong and you, who hasn't been there in 2 years is right.
Seriously it's like me telling people who hate COD that they don't know what they are talking about because the last one I played was COD 1 and it wasn't consolized and had dedicated servers so the new ones must be the same thing and while telling them this I don't know anything about COD recently.
If you read that, you would see how that makes no sense, and that is exactly what your doing right now. So I would just drop it if I were you, your really making a fool out of your self as if you haven't noticed already no one here really cares about how it was like 2 years ago and are currently discussing how it is at the moment, you aren't going to change anyones opinions on their recent experiences within the server so what your doing is pointless.
I think 29th just fosters this kind of lunacy
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;29556376]Seriously it's like me telling people who hate COD that they don't know what they are talking about because the last one I played was COD 1 and it wasn't consolized and had dedicated servers so the new ones must be the same thing and while telling them this I don't know anything about COD recently.[/QUOTE]
and even though [b]he's made it clear[/b] ([highlight]meaning he has made it clear that he does not know how 29th is currently and he is stating numerous times, again, how it was when he was there and that you are blowing everything out of proportion...[/highlight]
[highlight][h2](which you are)[/h2][/highlight]
[highlight]... again and again[/highlight]) he hasn't been there in a while [highlight]numerous times[/highlight] everybody keeps bitching and whining
you lost all credibility when you decided to go full retard, but that doesn't stop you [b]and everybody else[/b] from being a bunch of cry-baby faggots who won't shut their cry-baby mouths who intentionally selectively read because they want to be said cry-babies until papa 69105 comes out and beats their ass like a good parent should. get out of my thread.
Please explain how this is suddenly 'your thread'
don't change the subject; subject is about ro2 and why you are not discussing it
Other than the fact that there is literally nothing to talk about except the same shit we've talked about for 12 pages?
[QUOTE=the_killer24;29559390]Other than the fact that there is literally nothing to talk about except the same shit we've talked about for 12 pages?[/QUOTE]
Well I don't think this post from the official steam group has been posted yet
[quote]And on to RO2... play-testing yesterday had the usual mix of good moments and bad. The bad being bugs to be fixed - but that is what "testing" is for.
The good was a very intense MP battle on Spartanovka. The game tipped back and forth over the first couple of objectives, then became a real back-and-forth piece over the 2 core housing blocks. Eventually the defending Soviets (us) were pushed back to holding the final objective - the Town Hall.
We got ourselves dug in and were communicating well, fortunately. I'd been calling in mortars, for tight, quicker fire support a few times - mixed success. But we picked up on a bunch of Germans coming down the village on the right flank - I was Commander and right by the radio. Looked out the window, set an arty target right on the edge of said bit of village - and called down a heavy arty shoot. The longer delay was a little tense, but some fire from a couple of us caused the Gemans to pause and return fire just long enough for the arty to arrive. Multiple flying body parts, even if the plot was just a little close to our own troops!
I was rather enjoying that part of the toan hall and was popping rounds out of a couple of windows, with bullets chipping away at the windows, walls and everything else. Keith was later trying to figure out why I wasn't dead already (bullet penetration) as he'd been hammering away at the windows and surrounding walls with an MG34. The answer - thick stone walls, he was at an angle too - and I had some cabinets inside for a little extra cover. I still picked up one or two minor wounds - and plenty of suppression.
After I'd been forced to duck once too often, someone made it to the wall outside - I could see him bob up and down. Luckily I was already moving when the first German grenade arrived and went out the back window as it went off. After that, things got a little hectic.
End result - the Russians hung on for the win. Somehow!
And I was playing more single player this week, working on the script, playing, writing. At one point (Pavlov's House, in the German campaign, I think) I was struck by the fact that I'd lost everyone else. Both my guys and the enemy. Basically, I'd dived out to one side and flanked in. I could hear the shouting, firing, dying - but was creeping through the ruins of Zablontov's House, trying to find my squad, as well as the enemy. Found a couple, killed them - then was nearly trampled in the rush as we took the place - and the rest of my squad appeared from their hiding places, pounded past me, heading for the next objective.
I was struck by the "empty battlefield" - a reference to John Keegan, if I remember right (go look it up, someone). Firing all around, but no-one in sight. Spooky moments... have I got behind the enemy? Flanked them? Am I about to be shot by my own guys? Oh pewp... there's 20-30 people in this ruined apartment building, all ready to shoot anything that moves. Now, the AI isn't in its finished state yet, but that mix of "empty" battlefield and sudden rushes was something I noticed after that.
Go read up on it: basically, when soldiers aren't trying to go from A to B, they go to ground. Everyone suddenly vanishes into a hole. It was momentarily disconcerting. Now, to those who like to solo/rambo anyway, it won't be a problem - just try not to get trigger-happy (or, worse, grenade-happy) and make a mess of your own guys. This isn't a game where you can afford to kill off your whole team!
See you next week![/quote]
Really interesting read which shows it's going to be really damn intense, and sounds like they are putting work into the single player so it won't just be fighting bots like bf2 single player style. I can't wait to play through this coop with a friend then go online and experience some intense fighting.
Also does anyone know for the servers that don't display kills or the ones where they are delayed, is it going to be like that realism mode DH server where it shows the point in the scoreboard as soon as you get the kill or is that going to be delayed as well. I seriously hope it's the latter as people would just check the scoreboard taking any intensity out of it.
I'd hope the scoreboard is delayed, similar to PR maybe.
[QUOTE=dsi1;29559701]I'd hope the scoreboard is delayed, similar to PR maybe.[/QUOTE]
They mentioned kills dont show up on the HUD for 5 seconds or something. Still, I'm not sure why kills are confirmed at all. IMO it's way better if you never know if you've killed somebody (until it's counted at the end of the round)
[editline]2nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=BobIsAwesome;29555046]As someone who has never played a 'realistic' shooter, do you guys think I will enjoy this game? The most "realistic" I've played would probably be Day of Defeat... which doesn't really count. Is this game going to have free weekends so I can try it out?[/QUOTE]
The realism doesn't matter, it's a poor term to use to describe a game. RO is good because it's atmospheric and the combat is intense.
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