• 6.79 Update Notes a.k.a. What the fuck are you doing, IceFrog?
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[QUOTE=Bat-shit;42558882]I think it's kind of stupid that you can't disassemble Tranquils after this patch. I mean why wouldn't you want such a mechanic in the game?[/QUOTE] Because they are amazing.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;42558882]I think it's kind of stupid that you can't disassemble Tranquils after this patch. I mean why wouldn't you want such a mechanic in the game?[/QUOTE] Likely because believed they don't need such an upside any longer. Old Tranquils gave you static regen, which much like Arcanes' regen ceases being useful late game due to it not scaling. That's why both of them could be disassembled into items more fit for late game. New Tranquils give you great movement speed throughout the game, even when broken, and the regen I believe heals more in the long run, instead of being a great burst early on. Now that you'll be sticking with them throughout the game instead of using their burst early and then building them into something more useful in the long run like Vlad's or Mek, I wonder if their overall usefulness will go up or down. CM and Lich certainly will appreciate it. Soul Ring might still be alright with them, but jungling won't work anymore.
rubick got nerfed again but his aghs upgrade makes up for it. skywrath is crazy now icefrog is smoking drugs with these bloodseeker changes, he's far surpassed viper and windrunner levels of bullshit.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;42558882]I think it's kind of stupid that you can't disassemble Tranquils after this patch. I mean why wouldn't you want such a mechanic in the game?[/QUOTE] It's the same reason you can't disassemble Vanguard. It has very general components that can be built into tons of different things. If you could disassemble it, it would become a core item on like 20 heroes (probably low balling that). [editline]17th October 2013[/editline] Also, spell duels between Invoker and Rubick with Agh's would be insane. :v:
Tranquils seem to be great offlane boots now. Hell with the pull camp being easy heroes like windrunner can contest farm really easily with powershot and tranquils with soulring actually gives you crazy amounts of sustain and spam. Obviously dark seer loves them even more now. He never attacks and tries to avoid attacks anyways. [QUOTE=Banned?;42559081]It's the same reason you can't disassemble Vanguard. It has very general components that can be built into tons of different things. If you could disassemble it, it would become a core item on like 20 heroes (probably low balling that).[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Any hero that even considers a battlefury would go vanguard in any situation that wasn't absolute free farm. It would be the most ridiculous buff to antimage ever. Early game he buys a vanguard, you couldn't really harass him anymore and he would become incredibly difficult to successfully kill in a gank. It would even him jungle between waves efficiently. Then you'd just sit on the vitality booster, build your manta and go straight into heart after that. Sure it would delay your manta by a little bit, but you would be so much safer/able to participate in early aggression.
Evasion stacks, suddenly lion, rhasta, guinsoos and mkbs everywhere
So do these evasion changes mean that Windrunner is basically even more bullshit now due to Windrun possibly dodging some stuns?
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;42560706]So do these evasion changes mean that Windrunner is basically even more bullshit now due to Windrun possibly dodging some stuns?[/QUOTE] No. Evasion only affects regular attacks. Magic bolts (spells that have a proyectile that needs to land for it to take effect.) can only be "dodged" by de-attaching them from you by, for example, blinking away.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;42557715]ok so bloodseeker isn't as bullshit op as previously thought, the only way to keep your speed if you keep at least one person alive and you need travel/phase+mom+shadowblade+sange&yasha+euls+drums to get in ridiculous 1000+ movement speed territory racecar bloodseeker yes but that build also sacrifices a lot of damage[/QUOTE] Racecar bloodseeker will probably be more of a troll build like refresher agh razor or bkb crystal maiden.
Poor dotacinema is going to have a hard work remastering everything
I can finally make fun of my friend who always starts with bottle every time he wants to go mid unless he randoms.
I wake up to Bloodseeker becoming the Millenium Falcon...
[QUOTE=99$-Plate;42561294]I can finally make fun of my friend who always starts with bottle every time he wants to go mid unless he randoms.[/QUOTE] Thank god they did that. I'm fucking tired of seeing supports buying only bottle and laning. Makes my blood boil. I'm loving that space cow nerf, it was desperately needed. I also love the Bristleback buff because he can maybe become a dependable carry instead of a tank with a cold. Also [QUOTE="Doom"]Fuck everyone.[/QUOTE]
Zeus with Refresher (optional aghs) + bloodseeker = Anti-Hero Missile System
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTnnHy7hfs[/media] Bloodseekers_thirst_activates.avi Well now, have related content as a bonus: [t]http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/1141[/t]
Man 6.79 just makes it feel like a different game.
[IMG]http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt30/johannn98/rage58.gif[/IMG] Never once was this image more appropriate.
If we're totally honest about small patches once a week or two VS a bigass patch once every few months, I prefer it like this. You don't have to get used to changes on a weekly basis, and stuff feels really fresh when the changes are really big. Not saying I liked [I]all[/I] of the changes, but it definitely changes the game a lot which isn't actually all that bad. Now if Icefraud would give us 10 or so new (and fun, not something boring) Aghanims upgrades for the next big one, I'd be real cool with that.
FINALLY DOOM COUNTERS ABADDON!!! FINALLY!!! FUCK YEA!!! Alch now needs Health items Axe, Bloodseeker, Veno buffed just to be picked in the competetive :p Clinkz doesnt give a fuck about BKB anymore Drow now can push globally. Again. Brace yourselves No more Ghost Huskar OD no more mek PUDGE BLINK YEA!!! LETS GO DENDI! EVEN IF THEY CAN WALK FROM LEDGES [B]Can anyone explain this?[/B] - Divided We Stand leveling rebalanced from 6/11/16 to 4/11/18 [I][B]- Removed 30% stat sharing on non-aghanim Divided We Stand[/B][/I]
[QUOTE=SxRustle;42562262] [I][B]- Removed 30% stat sharing on non-aghanim Divided We Stand[/B][/I][/QUOTE] [del]Meepos always have 100% stat sharing now, regardless of aghs.[/del]
[QUOTE=SxRustle;42562262]Alch now needs Health items[/QUOTE] Actually, the greatly buffed HP regen means getting straight up armor and magic resistance is more efficient. More effective health than if you'd buy flat health. [QUOTE=Jvs;42562270]Meepos always have 100% stat sharing now, regardless of aghs.[/QUOTE] I think it means that clones won't get any bonus stats unless you have Aghanims.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;42562307]I think it means that clones won't get any bonus stats unless you have Aghanims.[/QUOTE] Huh, that makes more sense, guess I'll have to try it now. [editline]18th October 2013[/editline] Yup it's that, I'm a ding dong.
Finally I might be able to wardtrap with Shadow Shaman :dance:
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;42558882]I think it's kind of stupid that you can't disassemble Tranquils after this patch. I mean why wouldn't you want such a mechanic in the game?[/QUOTE] Turning off disassemble allows Icefrog to make them really really good again. Previously carries could just throw a pair together in lane with absolutely no downside other than a very slightly delayed Battlefury or whatever. Now it's an actual build choice like every other boot (and absurdly good for supports, oh my god CM buffs for days). I'm pretty sure +10 regen a second is higher than the old heal active too.
[QUOTE=SxRustle;42562262]PUDGE BLINK YEA!!! LETS GO DENDI! EVEN IF THEY CAN WALK FROM LEDGES[/QUOTE] Hook doesn't pull them to you if you blink anymore, it bring themto where you casted hook. [QUOTE=Bordellimies;42562307]Actually, the greatly buffed HP regen means getting straight up armor and magic resistance is more efficient. More effective health than if you'd buy flat health.[/QUOTE] It also means that Witchdoctor can't kill alche by just using E on him when his ult is about to run out anymore.
[QUOTE=Malvodion;42562645] It also means that Witchdoctor can't kill alche by just using E on him when his ult is about to run out anymore.[/QUOTE] Wait that actually works? Maledict counts the HP loss from his ult running out as health loss? :v:
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;42562852]Wait that actually works? Maledict counts the HP loss from his ult running out as health loss? :v:[/QUOTE] It counts HP loss from armlet too.
Lich + Refresher would that work? [editline]18th October 2013[/editline] Also the new blink pudge sounds very interesting. He can hook you from more places but when he hooks you up a ledge or something you get freewalk. More dynamic.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;42562852]Wait that actually works? Maledict counts the HP loss from his ult running out as health loss? :v:[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it just checks the health difference since the last tick. It's why healing neuters it so hard.
that fucking od nerf I am literally crying right now oh my god I hate everything also yay disruptor's scepter is cool
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