6.79 Update Notes a.k.a. What the fuck are you doing, IceFrog?

[Zephyrs]

[QUOTE=Mobon1;42569538]does he want phase boots to be the best boots or what[/QUOTE]

What do you mean?

Phase boots have some pretty major drawbacks in quite a few situations.

[RainbowStalin]

I didn't know there was a patch until some guys were talking about quitting dota forever in my last game.

[Malvodion]

[QUOTE=Nestophales;42569819]still havent fixed Lion's head item, sweet[/QUOTE]

And they still haven't recolored DP's purple dress to match her "new" red color.

[xBackfire]

[QUOTE=Malvodion;42571255]And they still haven't recolored DP's purple dress to match her "new" red color.[/QUOTE]

Yo, that shit made me so fucking mad. They did it like the same time she got a recolor. What the fuck? My DP has looked like a fucking mismatched raggamuffin ever since then.

[Banned?]

[QUOTE=xBackfire;42571307]Yo, that shit made me so fucking mad. They did it like the same time she got a recolor. What the fuck? My DP has looked like a fucking mismatched raggamuffin ever since then.[/QUOTE]

More reason to buy that baller as fuck DP set.

[editline]18th October 2013[/editline]

I hate her recolor too. It happened around Christmas last year and I thought "wow, what a weird way to have that in Dota" and then they just never changed it back.

[I'm Jon]

Man, can't wait for the patch to hit. Magnus RP in to a Enigma Aghanim's Blackhole :v:

[CaelReader]

Bristleback is now even more insanely powerful! Yay!

[Svenskunganka]

[QUOTE]Evasion now stacks diminishingly[/QUOTE]

Could someone explain what this really means?

[TehWoodPcker]

[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;42572312]Could someone explain what this really means?[/QUOTE]

You can stack butterflies kinda like how block items stack

[suttles]

[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;42572312]Could someone explain what this really means?[/QUOTE]
evasion stacks.

So PA can now get a butterfly and keep the evasion

Brewmaster can get a heaven's halberd and be a bitch to hit
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;42572310]Bristleback is now even more insanely powerful! Yay![/QUOTE]

I was watching a game and this bristle kept snotting razor over and over i was crying

[Svenskunganka]

[QUOTE=Suttles;42572360]evasion stacks.

So PA can now get a butterfly and keep the evasion

Brewmaster can get a heaven's halberd and be a bitch to hit

I was watching a game and this bristle kept snotting razor over and over i was crying[/QUOTE]

Now that's OP... How about 230% evasion? :suicide:

[bravehat]

[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;42572406]Now that's OP... How about 230% evasion? :suicide:[/QUOTE]

It's got diminishing returns, with 6 butterflies on PA she can get around 95% evasion.

[dual elites]

[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;42572406]Now that's OP... How about 230% evasion? :suicide:[/QUOTE]

It's diminishing returns. Level 4 Blur plus Butterfly is about 61% evasion. It's still really good for her though, Butterfly would have been a perfect item for PA if the evasion wasn't completely going to waste.

[Tiesieman]

But people usually get MKB against a PA anyway, if you get a butterfly "get an mkb you dingus" might as well flash in neon letters on the enemy screen. AC seems safer

brewmaster + halberd sounds legit though

[Tinget]

You should really only get butterfly when your certain that the enemy carry can't go a mkb at all or without severely delaying other very other important items (like bkb).

[davidrb18]

[QUOTE][IMG]http://www.cyborgmatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Dota2_NinjaTurtle.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Dare I say oracle?

[metalhand]

Jesus christ that Invoker change is fucking huge. Usually you only had 2 spells when you attacked someone early game (Because you had a spell ready and could invoke), but now you literally have 3 spells ready at all time.

Normally, if you went for the 4 exort - 4 quas build, you had to get a point in Invoke after that, so you could do the Forge spirit + Cold snap combo, but you can delay invoke so fucking long now.

[wombo]

[QUOTE=IrishBandit;42572310]Bristleback is now even more insanely powerful! Yay![/QUOTE]

Bristleback isn't even that good. He's one of my favorite heroes and he's really fun, but not too good if you have opponents that know how to actually deal with him.

Maybe this patch will make him a bit more playable with the warpath stack and cast/attack time buffs, but I'm not too sure.

[Totenkreuz]

[QUOTE=metalhand;42575222]Jesus christ that Invoker change is fucking huge. Usually you only had 2 spells when you attacked someone early game (Because you had a spell ready and could invoke), but now you literally have 3 spells ready at all time.

Normally, if you went for the 4 exort - 4 quas build, you had to get a point in Invoke after that, so you could do the Forge spirit + Cold snap combo, but you can delay invoke so fucking long now.[/QUOTE]

I hope the change is enough to see him competitively picked again. As well as EMP not being worthless anymore

[dirty_ape]

Axe is my favourite hero so I'm peaved about his nerfs. Battle Hunger was admittedly OP as fuck before though. Now I'm just concerned about the damage of Culling Blade, at level 3 he can only kill something under 450hp, that's a damage equivalent of a level 1 Finger of Death. I know it's spammable now and for way less mana but even before the threshold nerf, I found his ult was pretty shit. Who nows, maybe I'll be able to steal every single kill in a fight now and ball out of control 10 minutes into a game. I used to build aghs in my Axe builds when winning so I could Cull 2 or 3 in teamfights but maybe now I won't need it, who knows.

[Ovcharka]

[QUOTE=Mobon1;42569538]does he want phase boots to be the best boots or what[/QUOTE]
Do you mean tranquil boots?

[Zephyrs]

[QUOTE=Ovcharka;42576433]Do you mean tranquil boots?[/QUOTE]

Tranquils are pretty shitty for anything that isn't a roamer or some offlaners now. Especially now that you can't disassemble them. The EHP bonus of 4 armor is generally eclipsed by str treads.

[nmagain]

the new tranquil boots are more than core on wisp by the way, +15 hp regen for the guy you're tethered to
too good

[Zephyrs]

I have some doubts about them being core on batrider. The reasons you got them was because you could use them for the force staff later and they didn't cost you anything on your way to travels. Generally he has to go back for mana anyways so the fact that he could roam at full hp isn't that big of a deal. Pudge would fall into the roamer category and I have no idea why you think invoker would need them as a hero attempting to CS/trade with the enemy mid.

Soul ring with them is pretty crazy on some heroes though. As I already said, something like windrunner that can easily contest CS on the easy pull camp might see use in the offlane.

[OutOfExile2]

[QUOTE=nmagain;42576698]the new tranquil boots are more than core on wisp by the way, +15 hp regen for the guy you're tethered to
too good[/QUOTE]

but then I can't use my patented "oh god please don't kill me" build on wisp that involves stacking survivability

[editline]19th October 2013[/editline]

which is probably not very good because of the way overcharge works

[Tiesieman]

[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;42576285]Axe is my favourite hero so I'm peaved about his nerfs. Battle Hunger was admittedly OP as fuck before though. Now I'm just concerned about the damage of Culling Blade, at level 3 he can only kill something under 450hp, that's a damage equivalent of a level 1 Finger of Death. I know it's spammable now and for way less mana but even before the threshold nerf, I found his ult was pretty shit. Who nows, maybe I'll be able to steal every single kill in a fight now and ball out of control 10 minutes into a game. I used to build aghs in my Axe builds when winning so I could Cull 2 or 3 in teamfights but maybe now I won't need it, who knows.[/QUOTE]

Axe has all around been buffed very hard.

Before 6.79 he was very reliant on battle hunger, but at the cost of not doing a whole lot of damage in a direct confrontation.

Now his damage output through counter helix is much more consistent. He's an amazing bully in lane now

[Banned?]

[QUOTE=Tiesieman;42577932]Axe has all around been buffed very hard.

Before 6.79 he was very reliant on battle hunger, but at the cost of not doing a whole lot of damage in a direct confrontation.

Now his damage output through counter helix is much more consistent. He's an amazing bully in lane now[/QUOTE]

Axe is still more about Battle Hunger than he is about Helix/Call. Helix was just made less shit and his ultie is actually amazing now instead of "lol kill secure for team".

[2pac2furious]

[img]http://www.cyborgmatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Dota2_Items_BroodNeph01.jpg[/img]

they're finally adding this brood set thank god

[***zer0***]

Im fine with MOST of the stuff but why the hell can't you give your healing salves to allies anymore? I usually roll a poor mans shield straight away on bounty if i get a friend to buy me healing items.

[editline]20th October 2013[/editline]

When i go solo on a lane

[itzpanda]

[QUOTE=***zer0***;42579935]Im fine with MOST of the stuff but why the hell can't you give your healing salves to allies anymore? I usually roll a poor mans shield straight away on bounty if i get a friend to buy me healing items.

[editline]20th October 2013[/editline]

When i go solo on a lane[/QUOTE]

For that exact reason, and they also made offlaning easier which means you dont need the regen anymore, it also helps people from stacking regen on the mid so the mid can go fast null talisman or wraith band