[QUOTE=Arvuti;30473662]Why are people saying that it's gearboxes fault ? It's mostly 3d realmses fault, they are the one who made the game. Gearbox just mainly finished it.
Ive heard somewhere that gearbox was responsible for the two guns thing but still.[/QUOTE]
Gearbox took an incomplete game, modernized it, and then threw it on the shelves as a cash in.
[QUOTE=TraderRager;30473703]You know how they could have fixed this game?
A. Remove the Hive
B. Carry all guns at all times, rarer ammo
C. A TRUE ego system. Trying to take cover would lower your ego, but putting your gun away and charging headfirst to punch a enemies head off would make you Nigh-Invulnerable, unless you got hit by something that would make you lose ego, like getting blown up or knocked off your feat.[/QUOTE]
In the 2006 video it kinda looks like C was in the game. My only problems with most of the jokes in the game are the ones that Duke himself uses.
Haha power armor is for pussies /has regen health, as a example.
Or "That's one dead space marine", he's not a marine, could of changed that last bit to fit more guys.
That's one dead space miner.
eh just doesn't roll off the tongue as well.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;30473696]Gearbox probably didn't touch the actual game. More push it through the release phase by testing it, building the final release and publishing it.[/QUOTE]
To back up what he said:
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/OVQuoz.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/jwG0m5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/ZkkC8x.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/bbk4zo.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/L4xkuw.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/7jsTdg.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/SRC0Wu.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/BWer9i.jpg[/img]
Oh wow.
[quote=Kotaku]A third-party public relations firm tweeted last night that they would be "reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn't" based on the bad reviews pouring in about Duke Nukem Forever.
"Too many went too far with their reviews... we r reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn't based on today's venom." Jim Redner, of The Redner Group, tweeted out.
Redner later backtracked in an email sent out to an undisclosed group of publications. In that longer email (see below) Redner asked for forgiveness and called the initial email an error in judgement.
While it's unusual for a public relations company, publisher or developer to so publicly call out game critics for reviews, what isn't that unusual is the push back and internal black listing.
Kotaku made quite a splash years ago when we made public Sony's decision, delivered in an email, to blacklist us from all of their events, their games, their interviews in retaliation for publishing a reported-out rumor about the PS3 Home that turned out to be accurate. But the only thing unusual about that particular blackballing was that it was official and on the record.
We've since heard, and suspect we've been subjected to, plenty of unofficial, easily denied blackballings. It's an ugly, the ugliest part of this business. And while news reporting can sometimes spur it (I once had a executive of a company spend ten minutes shouting in my face and calling me names at a public venue because he was upset we reported on news, not rumors, but news that put his company in a bad light) it is game reviews that seem most contentious.
That's because with many companies, reviews can be directly connected to things like retailer orders and customer purchases. Sometimes they're used to determine whether a game should get a sequel or a developer or PR firm a bonus. So enough bad reviews can lead to money out of someone's pocket and that's when things get contentious.
No matter how passionate a team of developers are, no matter how mindful of their art form, their creation, at some point any big game is going to also have a person who sees the production of that game and its success as a matter purely of business, of counting beans and making money.
Should a game that does well get raked over the coals of sloppy criticism and rushed reviews? Absolutely not. But that doesn't mean that games should get a pass when a reviewer has played through the entirety of the title and found it lacking. That's the whole point of reviews, they are an expression of critical opinion.
Our job, as game critics, is not to help promote a game or make sure that it sells well. Our job, as critics, is to offer up opinion based on full knowledge of the entire game. That's pretty straight forward. If a critic plays an entire game and hates it, he or she should say so. If he or she loves it, write that. End of story.
I haven't had a chance to play beyond the initial levels of Duke Nukem Forever. But when I did play those levels I wrote up a preview saying that I suspect Duke will be entirely fan service, nothing meant to expand the game's reach or satisfy those new to the experience.
We'll be running our review next week (our policy is to wait a week after a game hits to review it). I'm not writing it, but my discussions with the reviewer lead me to believe that our reviewer won't make Redner happy either. But he's not our audience for this review, so we're OK with that.
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Here's the full apology email:
[quote="Jim Redner"]
Hello,
I would like a quick moment of your time to humbly ask for your forgiveness. I made a major error in judgment. I acted out of pure emotion without any thought to what I was saying. It is with a sad heart that I come to you now asking that you forgive me. I posted a Tweet this evening saying that I was reviewing The Redner Group's policy for future reviews of video games based on today's Duke Nukem Forever scores. I must state for the record I was acting on my behalf. 2K and all other clients had nothing to do with my comment. I want to be very clear that this came through me and was in no way affiliated with any of my clients especially my former client 2K.
Though I didn't name names, I did say that I thought some reviews had gone too far in tone. Meaning, that the tone of some of the reviews was poor. I respect the scores, it had to deal with the tone. I was unable to properly convey that in 140 characters. But that it beside the point. We are all entitled to our opinions regardless of score, tone or meaning. My response was a juvenile act on my part. I know better and my emotion got the best of me. I have worked very hard on this project. I want it to succeed. I just got upset and acted out.
I believe we are all allowed to voice our opinions and that opinions by their very nature are correct. Many of you quickly pointed out my error in judgment. For that I thank you and apologize.
I truly respect what you do. You have helped me achieve a little bit of success in this industry. I depend upon you. Your coverage is of the utmost importance to me. You have helped me secure coverage for all of the projects that I have touched. I have tried to treat you all with respect, dignity and honesty. Tonight I threw that all away, and I am extremely sorry.
The video game industry is an industry that I love. I have tried to dedicate myself to this industry. Tonight I failed the industry.
With much respect, I hope that when we meet again you will be able greet me with a smile and without malice. I will gladly do the same.
I am truly sorry for what I did. I know better than that. If I have caused you any issues, now or in the past, I apologize.
Best of luck,
Jim Redner
[/quote]
[QUOTE=Sift;30473868]Oh wow.
Here's the full apology email:[/QUOTE]
"[i]You don't like our game?[/i] [b]YOU DON'T GET TO REVIEW IT THEN! [i]MHAHEHEHAAHA![/i][/b]"
Duke moves so fucking slow in the underwater level
I don't see why he had to apologize, some of the reviews are actually awful.
Also what's with everyone hating the hive level, the only thing it did for me was remind me of Duke 3D, I really don't see what's wrong with it.
This underwater level is really annoying
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if they added the scuba gear in, I hate trying to find bubbles and when I do I have to drag my slow ass over to them
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30474062]I don't see why he had to apologize, some of the reviews are actually awful.
Also what's with everyone hating the hive level, the only thing it did for me was remind me of Duke 3D, I really don't see what's wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
Some people were disgusted with it as far as I can tell.
I guess you have to be the type to not be easily sickened or get aroused by girls getting impregnated by alien rape pods.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30474062]I don't see why he had to apologize, some of the reviews are actually awful.
Also what's with everyone hating the hive level, the only thing it did for me was remind me of Duke 3D, I really don't see what's wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
It's mainly the Holsome Twin scene [sp]Duke's "You're... fucked!" line comes off as just flat out unfunny sexist to alot of people, and him running around shooting women tied to giant penises going "Why do they always take the hot ones?" is just generally offensive.[/sp]
Also I apparently stay out of the loop for too long, what did the Olsen twins do that made them deserve the parody, it... still doesn't quite make sense other then to just cram another reference in. Same with the talkshow host guy, can't remember his name exactly other then Johnny, and it being a pretty dumb brick joke.
[editline]15th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=jason278;30474099]This underwater level is really annoying
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if they added the scuba gear in, I hate trying to find bubbles and when I do I have to drag my slow ass over to them[/QUOTE]
It's funny because the FoV is WORSE on consoles so if you're playing on it you get stuck in open doors quite often due to wonky detection.
[QUOTE=Sift;30474163]It's mainly the Holsome Twin scene [sp]Duke's "You're... fucked!" line comes off as just flat out unfunny sexist to alot of people, and him running around shooting women tied to giant penises going "Why do they always take the hot ones?" is just generally offensive.[/sp]
Also I apparently stay out of the loop for too long, what did the Olsen twins do that made them deserve the parody, it... still doesn't quite make sense other then to just cram another reference in. Same with the talkshow host guy, can't remember his name exactly other then Johnny, and it being a pretty dumb brick joke.
[editline]15th June 2011[/editline]
It's funny because the FoV is WORSE on consoles so if you're playing on it you get stuck in open doors quite often due to wonky detection.[/QUOTE]
Duke sexist?
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!
Hey guys, I finished the game but I didn't get invincibility or unlimited ammo or anything, only the head size changing. Why?
[QUOTE=Sift;30474163]It's mainly the Holsome Twin scene [sp]Duke's "You're... fucked!" line comes off as just flat out unfunny sexist to alot of people, and him running around shooting women tied to giant penises going "Why do they always take the hot ones?" is just generally offensive.[/sp][/QUOTE]
But when you kill [sp]the girls in the pods, sometimes he says, "Sorry babe, it's better this way."[/sp]
That's not offensive, that's just sad. :(
[QUOTE=Sift;30474163]It's mainly the Holsome Twin scene [sp]Duke's "You're... fucked!" line comes off as just flat out unfunny sexist to alot of people, and him running around shooting women tied to giant penises going "Why do they always take the hot ones?" is just generally offensive.[/sp]
Also I apparently stay out of the loop for too long, what did the Olsen twins do that made them deserve the parody, it... still doesn't quite make sense other then to just cram another reference in. Same with the talkshow host guy, can't remember his name exactly other then Johnny, and it being a pretty dumb brick joke.
[editline]15th June 2011[/editline]
It's funny because the FoV is WORSE on consoles so if you're playing on it you get stuck in open doors quite often due to wonky detection.[/QUOTE]
Explains a WHOLE lot, I kept getting stuck on the Dam level Underground part 2
[QUOTE=Hakita;30474221]Hey guys, I finished the game but I didn't get invincibility or unlimited ammo or anything, only the head size changing. Why?[/QUOTE]
Did you look in the Extras menu?
[QUOTE=killz2much;30474275]But when you kill [sp]the girls in the pods, sometimes he says, "Sorry babe, it's better this way."[/sp]
That's not offensive, that's just sad. :([/QUOTE]
This, really though I don't see whats wrong with killing them as in reality your kind of saving them. Also if i remember correctly when the [sp]Holesome Twins died, didn't Duke get really pissed, it's not like he said "your fucked" then left laughing at what happened, he was actually pissed off[/sp]
[QUOTE=SmashJonXD;30474216]Duke sexist?
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES![/QUOTE]
Duke himself has never been sexist before :v:
In 3D he only tells strippers to shake it and doesn't even respond when the leather girl calls him pathetic. Unless I'm remembering wrong which is totally a possibility.
[editline]15th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30474404]This, really though I don't see whats wrong with killing them as in reality your kind of saving them. Also if i remember correctly when the [sp]Holesome Twins died, didn't Duke get really pissed, it's not like he said "your fucked" then left laughing at what happened, he was actually pissed off[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]This is the main feeling of people that, Dukes line delivery for his "I will have revenge line" had no emotion in it, when they first get kidnapped Duke sounds clearly undoubtedly pissed out of his mind the girls are all getting taken away. Where as he sounds like he's just kinda shrugging it off in the clip. Personally don't really care myself, I think it's a tasteless unneeded scene as it destroys what Duke set out to do for no real reason, but people are getting a tad carried away with it[/sp]
[QUOTE=killz2much;30474389]Did you look in the Extras menu?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Then I selected "Extra Game Settings" or whatever that is but theres just the head scaling thing.
Anyone know whats wrong here? In the underwater level Duke wont turn any of the valves after the first one, so I can't really pass the level right now.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30474681]Anyone know whats wrong here? In the underwater level Duke wont turn any of the valves after the first one, so I can't really pass the level right now.[/QUOTE]
[sp]You forgot to place the first charge.[/sp]
*first 30 minutes into the game*
Well, it's an ok game. 6 out of 10, but I'll raise it to 6.5 cause it has Douk.
*punches boss in the nuts*
10 out of 10.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30474681]Anyone know whats wrong here? In the underwater level Duke wont turn any of the valves after the first one, so I can't really pass the level right now.[/QUOTE]
Some valves also just make airbubbles nearby, make sure you're not missing that. I know I kinda did when I went through that section
[QUOTE=leoshig;30474713]*first 30 minutes into the game*
Well, it's an ok game. 6 out of 10, but I'll raise it to 6.5 cause it has Douk.
*punches boss in the nuts*
10 out of 10.[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck is Douk?
The ending
Oh man really
[QUOTE=killz2much;30474710][sp]You forgot to place the first charge.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Thanks
Keeping under spoilers so I don't ruin any of the after game extras
[sp]One of the unlocked extras is a Duke soundboard, one of his lines is "Duke wins, fatality"[/sp]
Is it bad that this is the only time I've done good in any multiplayer game? :saddowns:
[img]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4900/2011061500001u.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;30474781]Who the fuck is Douk?[/QUOTE]
douk nouk kum
[QUOTE=jason278;30475040]Keeping under spoilers so I don't ruin any of the after game extras
[sp]One of the unlocked extras is a Duke soundboard, one of his lines is "Duke wins, fatality"[/sp][/QUOTE]
Show me show me show me SHOW ME.
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