Heroes of Newerth (Dota 2.0) Thread V2 - Games

Forsaken Archer is annoyingly good. "Hey I'ma pin you in place with my massive AOE and then hit R and win".

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;19171543]Forsaken Archer is annoyingly good. "Hey I'ma pin you in place with my massive AOE and then hit R and win".[/QUOTE] And then you step 2cm to the side and it no longer hits you.

[QUOTE=Xera;19171569]And then you step 2cm to the side and it no longer hits you.[/QUOTE] yes because I can move 2cm to the side when I'm pinned by her first ability.

oh hey the skeletons have poison and mana drain but that's not a problem right?

Oh hey, the skeletons can solo a tower on no time but that's not a problem right? Oh hey, the ultimate can kill a whole team on no time but that's not a problem right? Oh hey, her tits are so huge that everytime you run around they jingle up and down so much that they make you want to puke but that's not a problem right?

Basically, Forsaken Archer is OP. Even though she's quite squishy. Devourer, num num num.

You guys got some serious problems.

You are on facepunch, don't we all have problems, don't we all.

Anyone online right now? I'm bored. Christmas Eve isn't as fun-filled as Christmas. :(

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Let me elaborate on why Electrician is a bad hero; he has 2 tanking abilities but weak teamfight presence from his otherwise lackluster support abilities [B]Static Grip:[/B] Good for early game ganks/roaming. However, if you want to be a disabler Pollywog Priest has an identical one and a hex. Also it's channeled, so you can either get Shrunken Head (a bad choice because you are a tank and WANT to get focused) or literally get hit by any number of the AOE stuns/Savage Mace/Pharaoh's Hellfire/TB or MQ nukes and the skill becomes useless in teamfights. The only real use for this skill is early-game lane combos like Swiftblade or team ganks against a solo target. [B]Electric Shield:[/B] Your main scaling tank ability. It's an awesome ability but as stated before you do no damage and no supporting in teamfights, and if you build for damage you will quickly run out of mana for this ability. [B]Energy Absorption:[/B] Minor True damage nuke/mana steal. The armor bonuses synergize nicely with Electric Shield if you can get enough heroes caught by it (but there's still no reason to focus you) [B]Purge (I forget the name):[/B] Makes certain lineups like Madman, Hammerstorm, and TDL cry. Of course you could always build a Nullfire Blade or get a Vagabond Assassin for an identical effect. Compared to other heroes, he sucks: Maliken is a tanky-carry. He has great damage in teamfights, his sword is a nuke/slow (for ganking)/escape mechanism all in one, and he can ult to interrupt channels. With Life Essence he can tank well while offering overall superior skills Accursed is a better support-tank, and fulfills Electrician's role much better. Throwing out a 300-heal every 6 seconds and a purge with a better cooldown (and that purges stuns [and channeled abilities like Electrician's and Succubus' ult]) makes him a better support. Add in 5 seconds of invulnerability and you have a superior tank and supporter

Why are you comparing Eletrician to Maliken and Accursed, it doesn't make even sense. He was purely made to support your teammates, he isn't a killing machine like other heroes you are comparing him to, his job is only to [b]support[/b] by holding/slowing enemies or helping your teammates escaping. Accursed's heal doesn't heal as much damage and yes it's very useful but it takes mana and health to cast it, and from when can Accursed stun and purge? That's new to me.

Electrician is one of the best tanks in the game if you know how to play him well...

I wish they would bring back those one-liners when you kill somebody, I thought it was awseome. :(

[QUOTE=Nelth;19192529]Why are you comparing Eletrician to Maliken and Accursed, it doesn't make even sense. He was purely made to support your teammates, he isn't a killing machine like other heroes you are comparing him to, his job is only to [b]support[/b] by holding/slowing enemies or helping your teammates escaping. Accursed's heal doesn't heal as much damage and yes it's very useful but it takes mana and health to cast it, and from when can Accursed stun and purge? That's new to me.[/QUOTE] Fire Shield purges debuffs and disables off allies and has a 9 s cooldown compared to Electrician's. Accursed isn't a killing machine, he's a supporty tank. If you want to compare tanks, Armadon has great presence with his slow/-armor and spine stacking while Electrician has an easily countered grip which is counter-intuitive to his tanky nature and a purge.

Well considering how much you guys love Accursed it's rather useless for me to argue. :D But each hero has his own strengths and weaknesses, I mainly go battle Accursed because of his 40% attack speed buff, if you get Elder Parasite he can deal a lot of damage, Runed Axe and Astroable ain't bad on him too.

For someone who hasn't played DotA, is there a simple support hero that I can play so the other good people can win for me?

Demented Shaman? He's kinda simple, just heal your teammates, throw Hide at tanks or people who need it, use ulti on the enemy or your teammates before engaging and just slow escaping enemies.

OH YEAH electrican sucks. Because 50% damage reduce + your normal armor (should be abour 20-30% more) = 80% damage reduce SUCKS! As soon as you got the right stuff people need 4 man to take you down.

[QUOTE=Nuggi man;19200985]OH YEAH electrican sucks. Because 50% damage reduce + your normal armor (should be abour 20-30% more) = 80% damage reduce SUCKS! As soon as you got the right stuff people need 4 man to take you down.[/QUOTE] Define "right stuff." Build for damage and you won't have the mana to support Electric Shield (and once your mana runs out from using it, your abilities.) Getting sheepstick or Frostfield could work, but once you use that you're done for the fight. Compared to other tanks like Armadon and Accursed who constantly spew out support or damage, Electrician has no teamfight presence.

Just came off my first time playing HoN. Played Accursed all three games. Game 1:Had no idea wtf I was doing, didn't buy anything but health potions and we got rocked Game 2:Had some supportive team mates, killed my first hero (was a Keeper of the Forest). Learnt some stuff. Still sucking at putting my skills in the right place Game 3:Had a good team who mostly soloed. Eventually I bought some nice items and we managed to steam roll them about mid game. I definitely want to play more HoN in the future. Seems like fun and teamwork is an essential.

I'm definitely playing golly priest more. That 4.75 second stun is absolutely brutal.

I'm still new, but I enjoy playing pebbles. Sorcerers's Ring lets me spam stalagmites and throw. I'm looking for people to play with. I'm not too good, so looking to play with some people who can give me some pointers at the same time. Add me on steam!

you deleted me sir :saddowns:

Anyone wanna play with me now? I'm bored and hosting. [editline]07:23PM[/editline] IGN: Nelthurion [editline]08:06PM[/editline] No one wants to play with me. :(

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(Credit to Tisser for this mod, Thread 52664) - Many new neutrals have shown up on Newerth, including: * Vagabond Leader, who can cast a wave nuke and has a health regen aura * Vagabond, who has a targetted manaburn * Vagabond Assassin, who has a targetted Clense/Shock * Sporespitter, who has a slow on attack * Earthoc * Antlore Healer, who has a single target small heal * Antling Items - Fixed Void Talisman and Frostfield plate so you can use them while channeling to not interrupt - Fenrir's fang removed - Hack and Slash rework - Hack (Renamed to Icebrand) * Old: Armband (450) Mighty Blade (1000) Recipe (800) Total Cost: 2250 16 Strength 10 Damage 15% chance for -20% Movespeed for 4 seconds (proc) * New: Major Totem (540) Mighty Blade (1000) Recipe (960) Total Cost: 2500 16 Strength 4 Agility 4 Intelligence 10 Damage -15% Movespeed slow on attack - Slash (Renamed to Firebrand) * Old: Fleetfeet (450) Quickblade (1000) Recipe (800) Total Cost: 2250 16 Agility 15 Attack Speed +10% Movement Speed * New: Major Totem (540) Quickblade (1000) Recipe (960) Total Cost: 2500 4 Strength 16 Agility 4 Intelligence 15 Attack Speed +10% Movement Speed - Hack & Slash (Renamed to Frostburn) * Old: Slash (2250) Hack (2250) Total Cost: 4500 16 Strength 16 Agility 12 Damage +12% Movement Speed 15 Attack Speed 15% chance for -30% Movement Speed and -15 Attack Speed for 4 seconds * New: Firebrand (2500) Icebrand (2500) Total Cost: 5000 20 Strength 20 Agility 10 Intelligence 10 Damage +15% Movement Speed 30 Attack Speed -20% Movespeed slow on attack - Geometer's Bane * Old: Slash (2250) Blessed Orb (2100) Recipe (500) Total Cost: 4850 10 Strength 30 Agility 10 Intelligence +10% Movement Speed 15 Attack Speed Split/Illusion on-use * New: Firebrand (2500) Blessed Orb (2100) Recipe (600) Total Cost: 5200 15 Strength 30 Agility 15 Intelligence +10% Movement Speed 15 Attack Speed Split/Illusion on-use - Frostwolf Skull * Old: Fenrir's Fang (3480) Blessed Orb (2100) Recipe (570) Total Cost: 6150 25 Strength 25 Agility 25 Intelligence 200 Health 150 Mana -30% Movespeed slow on attack -20 Attackspeed slow on attack * New: Icebrand (2500) Blessed Orb (2100) Glowstone (1200) Recipe (300) Total Cost: 6100 10 Damage 25 Strength 25 Agility 25 Intelligence 200 Health 150 Mana -30% Movespeed slow on attack -20 Attackspeed slow on attack Heroes The following heroes now have voices: - Jeraziah, Puppetmaster, Pyromancer, Rampage, Soul Reaper Arachna: - Spiderling now grants 60-70 gold when killed Dark Lady - Reskinned and model changed Deadwood - Got a proper background story (Grumble... Mahogany) - Rotten Grasp now triggers after 1.5 seconds (down from 2.5. Was bugged and doing an extra .5 seconds) - Rotten Grasp now reduces the armor of anyone caught in it by 2,3,4,5 - Uproot no longer has a cast time, letting you grab and run - Clearcutting now lasts for 12,14,16,18 seconds - Falcon Punch's strength reduction state (everyone hit with the strength reduction) now slows moment speed by 80% for the first second and 35% for the rest of the duration Defiler - Semi-Reverted her third ability to 2.5/5/7.5/10% Movespeed (Stringtables will not show this, but it works) - Ghosts won't kill runes or chests anymore Demented Shaman - Storm Cloud is now correctly typed as Magic (was a typo, nothing changed) Engineer: - Cast time on Keg reduced to 0 seconds (from 0.4 seconds). Overall delay is 1 second. Forsaken Archer - Crippling Volley now has a 225 radius at all levels (from 150/200/250/300) - Crippling Volley now has a 1 second delay (including cast time), reduced from 1.295 seconds - Skeletal Minions no longer burn mana with their attacks - Number of maximum skeletal minions changed to 3/4/5/6 from 2/4/6/8 - Immobilize time on Crippling Volley changed to 1.75/2/2.25/2.5 seconds (from 2.5 at all levels) Kraken - Whirlpool will no longer drag gadget pets such as Engineer's Turret or Arachna's Spider with it Legionnaire - Fixed the tooltip for Whirling Blade Pebbles - Fixed his effects that were playing through fog - Fixed up his Ult's tooltip to clarify the damage the thrown unit takes Pharoah - Ult will no longer hit PseudoPets (Skeletons from Forsaken Archer) when he has SotM Plague Rider - Plague Carrier can no longer target couriers - Fixed his story Puppet Master - Base strength lowered to 19 (from 20) - Strength gain lowered to 1.9 (from 2.1) - Puppet Show will now correctly interrupt abilities that are mid-cast - Damage dealt via Voodoo Puppet will no longer pass through Magic Immunity Scout: - Cast Range on electric eyes reduced by 50 * This fixes an issue allowing the scout to put eyes in spots just out of their detection range Soul Reaper - Fixed his level 3 ultimate multiplying by .9 (was using .8) Soulstealer: - Soul Burst impact time reverted to 1 second (with a 1.5 second total cast time) Tempest - Clarified the tooltip for elementals to say they do not lose charges for attacking buildings Valkyrie: - Call of the Valkyrie radius increased to 650 from 600 * This allows the skill to hit targets with it when she attacks from her maximum range Voodoo Jester - Mojo mana cost reduced to 105/115/125/145 from 110/135/160/185 Witch Slayer - Got a proper background story [/code] Don't think anyone has posted that here yet.

I don't like the new Dark Lady look, makes her look like an Latex freak.

I don't like Dark Lady period. I've gotten ganked by her so many times. :saddowns:

[url]http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=18637253[/url] We finished a game just before this in 6:59. Engineer, wildsoul, nymphora, andromeda, deadwood. We destroyed a tower before the game began. :smug:

You can't destroy towers before the game began, they are invulnerable. Or if you mean "early" then it's possible.