[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;20118576]I don't see why people still whine about the regen. The skill got NERFED. Before, you just prevented all the damage right away - Pow, Pyro flung an ulti at chronos with 500hp - NO SHIT HAPPENED. NOBODY EVER ARGUED AGAINST THAT.
Now, when he ulties him, no matter if the skill happens to kick in or not, he first takes all the damage (so he can die), and then slowly regains it.
It's pure straight nerf, and people bitch more then they did before.[/QUOTE]
Really? I've never seen a chronos survive a 1 to 5 man fight before the nerf.
After that I've seen him do it multiple times, constantly regenerating his health, so fast we couldnt keep up with pyro, witch and SS.
I have 6 beta keys. I may give out a few. PM me if you think you are worthy.
[B]every beta account just got 3 beta invites. Invite your friends now!
Holy fuck guys, lets watch the players online the next 5 days.
DAY 1. 41000 online
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[QUOTE=FHamster;20236460]I have 6 beta keys. I may give out a few.[B] PM me if you think you are worthy[/B].[/QUOTE]
Haha, every acc just got 3 keys
Choose wisel-
SCOUT
NIGHT HOUND
MADMAN
RAMPAGE
"tank plz"
I have 6 keys too, lol.
I'll probably give them to some friends. :)
[QUOTE=Diagger;20096254]Zephyr is OP now in my opinion. More than Chronos is, and by the way Chronos' regen skill is so cheap. That game ruined a 1700 for me tonight.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he is. He is banned in most 'pro-games'. I'm sure they'll nerf him a lil.
Is this gonna cost money when it comes out of Beta?
Yep
I like how Blacksmith is now considered competitive because of the -magic armor buff he got. Goes to show not every hero needs a numbers buff to be good.
[QUOTE=elevator13;20263511]I like how Blacksmith is now considered competitive because of the -magic armor buff he got. Goes to show not every hero needs a numbers buff to be good.[/QUOTE]
Blacksmith kicks ass. Won games with him just because of fireball spams.
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[QUOTE=Appox;20237662]Yeah he is. He is banned in most 'pro-games'. I'm sure they'll nerf him a lil.[/QUOTE]
Chronos Daily Schedule.
- Time jump to enemy.
- Ultimate on enemy.
- Crazed buff if needed
- Rinse and repeat forever.
Lost a game because chronos has the ability to stun an area for 5 seconds
[QUOTE=g1real;20268480]Lost a game because chronos has the ability to stun an area for 5 seconds[/QUOTE]
According to a few of the forum moderators, Chronos is getting nerfed in the next patch.
And that isn't suprising in the least.
Haha, had a 5vs5 versus an awesome team, they killed the entire team (we had their main base on 20%) they had chronos. So they are going to destroy our base, (im the only one alive) suddenly i pop up at their base backdooring the shit out of it, they lost :) Only because of my lovely geometers bane on my magebane.
Oh god, they were so pissed.
Has anyone else tried stuff like that?
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It makes you feel good inside
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oh god i played over 259 hours of HON
[url]http://www.xfire.com/profile/xera1/[/url]
Heroes of Newerth 452 hours
:saddowns:
Ughh when will they fix the friends system, its goddamn awful atm.
Garhghgh CHRONNNNOOSSSS
Chronos has really bad time cracking tough targets even inside his ultimate, and that goes with both tanks and lategame carriers. You mostly need a really good teamplay to kill everybody who gets into the ultimate, and you could have always done this with tempest.
About the regeneration - He just regenerates 25% of the attacks on him. Nothing more. When he is fed, it's kinda nifty buff in survivability, but remember that for example Sand Wraith has much more sure and consistent 20% reduction, and all the damage reduced by the ability is reflected to every enemy in 1000 radius as true damage. Armadon has armor that totally ignores 20% of damage from sides and 40% from back, and again damages enemies who do the damage with quills. Not to even mention accursed whose ultimate makes him totally immortal when activated. (except legionnaire ulti maybe).
The chrono ultimate is just about how farmed the chronos is, and a bad chronos can do more harm than good for his team. If you let chronos get farmed, you are in deep shit, but that applies for most carriers.
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[QUOTE=g1real;20268480]Lost a game because chronos has the ability to stun an area for 5 seconds[/QUOTE]
Newsflash: Tempest has ultimate that has higher radius than chonoses one, and doesn't make his team melees useless during it. More at 10.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;20304576]Chronos has really bad time cracking tough targets even inside his ultimate, and that goes with both tanks and lategame carriers. You mostly need a really good teamplay to kill everybody who gets into the ultimate, and you could have always done this with tempest.
About the regeneration - He just regenerates 25% of the attacks on him. Nothing more. When he is fed, it's kinda nifty buff in survivability, but remember that for example Sand Wraith has much more sure and consistent 20% reduction, and all the damage reduced by the ability is reflected to every enemy in 1000 radius as true damage. Armadon has armor that totally ignores 20% of damage from sides and 40% from back, and again damages enemies who do the damage with quills. Not to even mention accursed whose ultimate makes him totally immortal when activated. (except legionnaire ulti maybe).
The chrono ultimate is just about how farmed the chronos is, and a bad chronos can do more harm than good for his team. If you let chronos get farmed, you are in deep shit, but that applies for most carriers.
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Newsflash: Tempest has ultimate that has higher radius than chonoses one, and doesn't make his team melees useless during it. More at 10.[/QUOTE]
Newsflash: Tempest needs to buy a portkey to blink, is more easily countered since its channeling, Chronos has an agisteal and can attack while using his ult and cannot be countered in almost any fucking way
[QUOTE=g1real;20304900]Newsflash: Tempest needs to buy a portkey to blink, is more easily countered since its channeling, Chronos has an agisteal and can attack while using his ult and cannot be countered in almost any fucking way[/QUOTE]
Without equipment of equivalent value as the key, he does barely enough damage to kill single target in the ultimate. Tempest does damage with his ultimate automatically, to all targets in it. His damage to the targets in ultimate is superior to Chronoses one, at least before lategame. Chronoses ultimate renders all melee damagers practically useless, while Tempests neatly smashes all the enemies at one place, which makes damaging even easier.
Chronos ultimate can be hardly countered, but has like a half radius of the tempest one. If the team is careful, it's pretty much impossible to catch more than 2 enemies at once.
Lol i just played against the most lame chronos ever on 1v1. He says ok to mid only, what happens is he stands behind a tower with lifesteal and ports away whenever i try to kill him cause i have no stun..
Almost managed to kill his base in the end though, should probably have ported back and the creeps would have finished the base.
[url]http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=27658239[/url]
He was pretty much countered by a helmet of the black legion.. shows how bad he is.
It doesn't have half the radius, your "counter" can be applied to both ults. Tempest is a onetrick pony with only a portkey, tempest's channel can still be interrupted. Chronos deals more damage to a single target plus he has a 250 aoe damage from his blink.
You're not gonna win this discussion mate, because it's all true.
[QUOTE=g1real;20305680]It doesn't have half the radius, your "counter" can be applied to both ults. Tempest is a onetrick pony with only a portkey, tempest's channel can still be interrupted. Chronos deals more damage to a single target plus he has a 250 aoe damage from his blink.
You're not gonna win this discussion mate, because it's all true.[/QUOTE]
It's true that what?
That you feed/let freefarm a Chronos, he whoops your ass in lategame? Guess what! That applies for most hard carriers. Warbeast with shrunken and lifesteal can just waltz around in ultimate and eat one hero after another.
Or that a chronos with a cooperating team can cahnge the gank outocme? Guess what. Same goes with Keeper, Tempest, Jereziah, Kraken, Behemoth, Engineer and others.
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It's true that his abilities are in a perfect mix. They are ideal, and no other hero has that well fitting ones mixed by default, so they have to get some key items, but, his abilities are not overall stronger. Just well fit together.
Guess what.
You either have to gank him anytime he shows up and when hes jungling 24/7 or Chronos IS going to be active lategame, and he doesn't even NEED to farm because he still has the easymode ability to just obliberate enemies.
You're changing the subject anyhow, we were talking about his 5 second stun which can not be countered even if hes underfed and unable to deal damage, HE WILL STILL JUMP IN AND 5 SEC AOE STUN GIVING THE ENEMY FREE GAME
Guess what?
Counters -
Keeper: bkb
Tempest: Silence, stun
Jer[b]a[/b]ziah: purge
Kraken: Running, being faster, blinking,
Behemoth: bkb, blinking,
Engineer: destroying ult, running out
Use wards. :v:
Why the fuck did they break Chronos?
There was nothing wrong with him prior to this buff
What did they do to Chronos?
[QUOTE=g1real;20311172]Guess what.
You either have to gank him anytime he shows up and when hes jungling 24/7 or Chronos IS going to be active lategame, and he doesn't even NEED to farm because he still has the easymode ability to just obliberate enemies.
You're changing the subject anyhow, we were talking about his 5 second stun which can not be countered even if hes underfed and unable to deal damage, HE WILL STILL JUMP IN AND 5 SEC AOE STUN GIVING THE ENEMY FREE GAME
Guess what?
Counters -
Keeper: bkb
Tempest: Silence, stun
Jer[b]a[/b]ziah: purge
Kraken: Running, being faster, blinking,
Behemoth: bkb, blinking,
Engineer: destroying ult, running out[/QUOTE]
Ahahaha, EASYGAME? Ok. Now I get it. You are bawwing about how unbalanced he is in Easygame? Well, you can go fuck yourself. The heroes are and should be always balanced based on normalgame. Easygame is a joke. It either needs a separate set of balanced heroes, or never gonna get balanced.
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[QUOTE=Appox;20314582]What did they do to Chronos?[/QUOTE]
Nerfed Rewind, Added agility buff to the passive stun and unrandomized it, added damage to leap.
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And I will continue to call him Jereziah, because it's his original name.
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Blinking away from Chronos is exactly the same as blinking away from Kraken/Behemoth with key.
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There is barely ever time to attack engineers ultimate when it's used right
[b]easygame[/b]
[b]EASYGAME[/b]
Blinking away from chronos is near impossible since its near instant, opposed to kraken
Anyhow, you go have fun with easygame, I try to avoid easy[b]mode[/b] for the most part.
On another note, I just got votekicked for backdooring with war beast, by my team, while I've been doing it the whole game, with their approval, and just destroyed the last enemy rax with it.
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I had doombringer qq
[QUOTE=g1real;20322166][b]easygame[/b]
[b]EASYGAME[/b]
Blinking away from chronos is near impossible since its near instant, opposed to kraken
Anyhow, you go have fun with easygame, I try to avoid easy[b]mode[/b] for the most part.
On another note, I just got votekicked for backdooring with war beast, by my team, while I've been doing it the whole game, with their approval, and just destroyed the last enemy rax with it.
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I had doombringer qq[/QUOTE]
Krakens ultimate can be activated instantly after 1 second of placing the target. Place target - wait 1 second - blink to enemy = instant.
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And keep pointing out these silly semantics, they are completely pointless, and show how you are only just arguing instead of really having a problem.
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