Warcraft 3 - Because World of Warcraft it killing it. - Games

I should really play WC3, I have it but I've never really put much time into it.

Love it still playing custom maps time from time. Wintermaul original will always be the best. Too bad Wintermaul One is only hosted now, I don't mind it, but I like the original maul, because it required teamwork and coordination to actually win.

All the servers seem to be running some dumb bullshit hosting bots now a days, which seems to make it impossible to even find a game with people. At least in europe...

I didn't like Warcraft 3 that much. Warcraft 2 is where it's at.

I haven't tried this game before, although it sounds pretty good. Maybe I'll go out and buy it, or try it on a friends computer.

I played Warcraft first. Then Warcraft II which I played a lot alone and with some friends. Warcraft III however is where home is at. We still play it when we have LAN's and it's usually the last game we play because we end up overplaying it and make ourselves fucking bored and tired by playing it for too long. So many great custom maps and so perfect in every way.

Footmen frenzy! Undead assault! Cube defense! Battleships! Island troll tribes! LoaP! With these powers combined, I am captain nostalgia! Fucking grew up playing this damn thing, ever since i was 10. [QUOTE=dgg;31459662]Warcraft III came out in 2003. You can't nostalgia on something that came out so early as 8 years ago. [/quote] Bad at math, hang on.. no wait good math, you saw my age at my profile, following a good ol' childish behavior i lie about my age.

[QUOTE=LtBubbles;31459637]Footmen frenzy! Undead assault! Cube defense! Battleships! Island troll tribes! LoaP! With these powers combined, I am captain nostalgia![/QUOTE] Warcraft III came out in 2003. You can't nostalgia on something that came out so early as 8 years ago. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31407685]I don't really know anything about WoW, but is it true that players actually are able to kill Arthas/the Lich King? Talk about destroying the lore.[/QUOTE] WoW is what? 10 years in the future of Warcraft III? How does that ruin the lore? Characters have to die eventually, there are no immortals in Warcraft.

No, but there are people who get revived right after they die. :v:

[QUOTE=Biotic;31459730]No, but there are people who get revived right after they die. :v:[/QUOTE] As undead or as temporary fighters, yes. But not as "I'm back to life forever" except for heroes [U]in game[/U] that can be brought forth from altars of course or ankhs (and ultimates).

I remember when I was a kid I used to go with like 3-5 other friends from time to time at the local internet-cafe (every PC at their place had Warcraft 3) and play against eachother in teams. Good times.

Anyone else create custom maps? The editor was so user-friendly, over the years I made TDs, RPGs, Custom Melees, and loads of others. [QUOTE=dgg;31459662]Warcraft III came out in 2003. You can't nostalgia on something that came out so early as 8 years ago. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] WoW is what? 10 years in the future of Warcraft III? How does that ruin the lore? Characters have to die eventually, there are no immortals in Warcraft.[/QUOTE] Then write a book or have WC4 kill off Arthas. The thing with MMOs is that EVERY body has killed Arthas, so what is the bloody point? There is no emotional connection to the "hero" who did it, and has no established background. That's not how you continue a story. Contrary to the words JCDenton put in my mouth, I don't dislike WoW. Infact I quite enjoy the game. I just believe that it does a very poor job at keeping the lore intact (as does every other MMO).

[QUOTE=dgg;31459831]As undead or as temporary fighters, yes. But not as "I'm back to life forever" except for heroes [U]in game[/U] that can be brought forth from altars of course or ankhs (and ultimates).[/QUOTE] I'm talking about the story. Everybody has been revived at least once in the lore.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31462490]That's not how you continue a story.[/QUOTE] You're absolutely right. There should be precisely nothing of importance in WoW, ever, lest it ruin everything.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31462490]Anyone else create custom maps? The editor was so user-friendly, over the years I made TDs, RPGs, Custom Melees, and loads of others. Then write a book or have WC4 kill off Arthas. The thing with MMOs is that EVERY body has killed Arthas, so what is the bloody point? There is no emotional connection to the "hero" who did it, and has no established background. That's not how you continue a story. Contrary to the words JCDenton put in my mouth, I don't dislike WoW. Infact I quite enjoy the game. I just believe that it does a very poor job at keeping the lore intact (as does every other MMO).[/QUOTE] I never said you disliked WoW, did you even read my post at all? Because since you have said all this, you obviously didn't. Thats the thing about MMOs, everyone experiences it. And, no emotional connection? The hero(es) that killed Arthas is your own character that, like I said, you had from the start. Its basically YOU. Whats the difference if they made Arthas die in WC4? Everyone who plays it will have killed Arthas, "so whats the bloody point?" You even said in a previous post that you don't know much about WoW, so how can you really form a good opinion on it? Have you even played it? How can you say you like it? And you still have not shown me where WoW has destroyed the lore. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Biotic;31462601]I'm talking about the story. Everybody has been revived at least once in the lore.[/QUOTE] The in-game reasoning is that the spirit healer will revive you because "It is not yet your time hero" The real reasoning is that it would be really un-fun if you had to start over from scratch every time you died.

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;31463471]You even said in a previous post that you don't know much about WoW, so how can you really form a good opinion on it? Have you even played it? How can you say you like it?[/QUOTE] Dude... In the post you quoted he says he enjoys WoW.

I suggest we all meet up for a game of Warcraft 3 (EU Here). Anyone? Just need to schedule a time and date.

MMO's should have 'one off heros' that are fucking difficult to kill, but then they go away for ever, drop some unique loot and the person who killed them gets forever immortalised in statue form and in books written about the world and stuff. But every time they defeat someone, they get stronger as well.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;31466703]MMO's should have 'one off heros' that are fucking difficult to kill, but then they go away for ever, drop some unique loot and the person who killed them gets forever immortalised in statue form and in books written about the world and stuff. But every time they defeat someone, they get stronger as well.[/QUOTE] That would suck though since only like a few guys will get to kill him and get the loot.

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;31463471]I never said you disliked WoW, did you even read my post at all? Because since you have said all this, you obviously didn't. Thats the thing about MMOs, everyone experiences it. And, no emotional connection? The hero(es) that killed Arthas is your own character that, like I said, you had from the start. Its basically YOU. Whats the difference if they made Arthas die in WC4? Everyone who plays it will have killed Arthas, "so whats the bloody point?" You even said in a previous post that you don't know much about WoW, so how can you really form a good opinion on it? Have you even played it? How can you say you like it? And you still have not shown me where WoW has destroyed the lore.[/QUOTE] You want me to show you where WoW has destroyed the lore? Answer this one simple question: who, specifically, killed the Lich King? Thank you, good night, I'm done cluttering the thread with this nonsense. Though let me say just because I don't know much about WoW doesn't mean I haven't played it before. I was one of the first to play it. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] anywho, i've yet to read a single warcraft book are any of them good?

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31467182]You want me to show you where WoW has destroyed the lore? Answer this one simple question: who, specifically, killed the Lich King? [/QUOTE] The NPC that accompanied players to Lich King.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31467182]You want me to show you where WoW has destroyed the lore? Answer this one simple question: who, specifically, killed the Lich King? Thank you, good night, I'm done cluttering the thread with this nonsense. Though let me say just because I don't know much about WoW doesn't mean I haven't played it before. I was one of the first to play it. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] anywho, i've yet to read a single warcraft book are any of them good?[/QUOTE] A group of Alliance or Horde veteran fighters who were assisted by Lady Jaida Proudmoore, Sylvanas Windrunner, and Tirion Fordring. Are those big enough names for you? Not everything has to be specific and set in stone, what matters is that the Lich King is dead and that the story can finally move on There doesn't have to be specifics for every single thing you know. Lets just put this petty argument aside. Regarding the books, I have only read one comic but I hear the Warcraft books are pretty high quality. Does anyone still have their Warcraft 3 Game Manual? Its pretty thick as its actually mostly made up of the story of the universe up until that point, it has a detailed description of each unit, race, spell, and demon in the game. I also have a large Warcraft 2 book that is kind of the same thing. I also have a REALLY old PC Accelerator magazine with orc tits on the front. The the cover is in pretty bad shape though.

[QUOTE=WaRRioRTF;31467441]The NPC that accompanied players to Lich King.[/QUOTE] That's debatable. While he did shatter Frostmourne - thus releasing the souls of everyone The Lich King had killed, allowing them to resurrect the "heroes" (i.e. players) and keep the Lich King from attacking them again - he didn't actually deliver the killing blow, the heroes did.

Fuck yes I purchased this game off a friend like 8 years ago for a fiver (£5) I loved to play lotr RPG where people actually had to work together also hero X siege I think it was called. Also I figured just now that you can use your serial numbers to register on blizzard store so you have a digital copy in case you snap / lose disc ! fuck it [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/50ftvo.jpg[/IMG]

You guys moan about Lich King getting killed by piss-off veteran fighters, but what really pissed me off in his defeat is that he didn't have any epilogue of his life. Only 10 seconds of how he tells his father he sees darkness and.....that's all? Basically a reverse-cliffhanger, when you expect something epic it just plainly fails.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;31472528]You guys moan about Lich King getting killed by piss-off veteran fighters, but what really pissed me off in his defeat is that he didn't have any epilogue of his life. Only 10 seconds of how he tells his father he sees darkness and.....that's all? Basically a reverse-cliffhanger, when you expect something epic it just plainly fails.[/QUOTE] Anticlimatic is the word you're looking for

I loved the campaign in this game, I always felt guilty whenever I played as Arthas and fucked everyone over.

[QUOTE=dgg;31459662]Warcraft III came out in 2003. You can't nostalgia on something that came out so early as 8 years ago. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] WoW is what? 10 years in the future of Warcraft III? How does that ruin the lore? Characters have to die eventually, there are no immortals in Warcraft.[/QUOTE] [quote]Definition of NOSTALGIA 1 : the state of being homesick : homesickness 2 : a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition; also : something that evokes nostalgia[/quote] You can nostalgia about anything no matter how old it is. Hell sometimes I'm nostalgic about a Garry's Mod server I used to go on a lot but now it no longer exists

My favorite memory of my first online gameplay was playing this games battlenet. Does anyone remember the sheep tag game in multiplayer? We should host a facepunch server for it because no one really uses battlenet that much anymore, and definitely NO ONE hosts the best sheep tag servers. Also I played WoW from the beginning up to a little bit after cataclysms release, and as far as epic boss fights/deaths go, I thought the entire Fordring, Fordragon, King Menethil thing on Arthas was really cool. I guess a little more could have happened. My favorite raids are BWL, AQ40, ulduar, and then ICC. I do agree that an NPC should have at least completely finished off Arthas. They should have defined Tirion's character better and then it would have made more sense for him to get the final blow. Sometimes Tirion is really caring and tries to not kill people but change them (luke skywalker/harry potter) then sometimes he just kills whatever is "bad"

[QUOTE=(P!);31479496]My favorite memory of my first online gameplay was playing this games battlenet. Does anyone remember the sheep tag game in multiplayer? We should host a facepunch server for it because no one really uses battlenet that much anymore, and definitely NO ONE hosts the best sheep tag servers. Also I played WoW from the beginning up to a little bit after cataclysms release, and as far as epic boss fights/deaths go, I thought the entire Fordring, Fordragon, King Menethil thing on Arthas was really cool. I guess a little more could have happened. My favorite raids are BWL, AQ40, ulduar, and then ICC. I do agree that an NPC should have at least completely finished off Arthas. They should have defined Tirion's character better and then it would have made more sense for him to get the final blow. Sometimes Tirion is really caring and tries to not kill people but change them (luke skywalker/harry potter) then sometimes he just kills whatever is "bad"[/QUOTE] AQ40 <3333 Best raid, then goes Onyxia.