Lets hope my attention span can last long enough to play through 2005 years of fucked up history.
Started out as the Angles in 5 AD, lets run this shit into the ground.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29799775]Isn't there people who claim Victoria is difficult to understand or that?
Because I can play that fine but I fail playing almost every nation in EU3.[/QUOTE]
victoria is more economic, its about building up industry and economy and ruling the world that way
eu3 is more diplomatic, its about making sure you dont get swallowed by the bigger empires by either playing them off each other or making friends with them
so you might have an easier time managing the economic and colonial simulations in victoria but not all of the diplomatic shit in eu3
EU3 also has a lot of warfare.
Be able to defend yourself/attack effectively if you want to gain power.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29894580]victoria is more economic, its about building up industry and economy and ruling the world that way
eu3 is more diplomatic, its about making sure you dont get swallowed by the bigger empires by either playing them off each other or making friends with them
so you might have an easier time managing the economic and colonial simulations in victoria but not all of the diplomatic shit in eu3[/QUOTE]
Whenever I play Victoria I always go state capitalist and build up the empire.
Unfortunately the parties I want in power (Socialists and Communists) never seem to get into power, and I have to make do with some other cabbage party that won't let me build 10,000 factories.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;29894808]EU3 also has a lot of warfare.
Be able to defend yourself/attack effectively if you want to gain power.[/QUOTE]
eu3 has way more primitive warfare mechanics though
not saying eu3 doesnt contain its fair share but with how simple the warfare mechanics are, war isnt really the big feature, more like one of many tools to expanding your power and influence
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29895264]Whenever I play Victoria I always go state capitalist and build up the empire.
Unfortunately the parties I want in power (Socialists and Communists) never seem to get into power, and I have to make do with some other cabbage party that won't let me build 10,000 factories.[/QUOTE]
iv unfortunately never played vicky 2(im assuming thats the one you are talking about)
is it better than the original? is it playable even though you often dont have direct control over what factories get built?
Hey, here's my Iroquois AAR:
[url]http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?526271-It-s-the-AARoquois-we-built-this-city-on-roooooock-and-rooooooll!-and-a-constitution[/url]
[editline]17th May 2011[/editline]
This game is great, but I'm crap at it.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;29800811]The trick is this.
Fuck everything, be an aggressive asshole, If you don't you're going to die by a sudden expansion of Austria, Sweden, France, Russia, Prussia, Ottomans, Papal State [sp] In my game they took all of italy and are on par with Austria [/sp], England, Ming, Vijayanagar, The Mamluks.[/QUOTE] Problem with us Victora players is that infamy is a fucking asshole in vic. You get ganged by all the greatpowers for having 25 infamy. This makes me scared to war in EU3.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29895394]eu3 has way more primitive warfare mechanics though
not saying eu3 doesnt contain its fair share but with how simple the warfare mechanics are, war isnt really the big feature, more like one of many tools to expanding your power and influence
iv unfortunately never played vicky 2(im assuming thats the one you are talking about)
is it better than the original? is it playable even though you often dont have direct control over what factories get built?[/QUOTE]
I am playing the old Victoria. I have played it through once as Portugal (A continuing game from EU2 starting in 1418), once as Belgium and now as the USA.
My god why won't they let me abolish slavery and stuff, I work hard to convert it into industrial nation (Already converted 15% and 5% to workers and clerks respectively). I raised taxes for poor to max and I am trying to annoy the poor into a revolution.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;29896730]Problem with us Victora players is that infamy is a fucking asshole in vic. You get ganged by all the greatpowers for having 25 infamy. This makes me scared to war.[/QUOTE]
I got 60 infamy as Portugal and nobody fucked with me after I raped Spain and Austria in a war in EU2 (1760s) I had such high infamy nobody wanted to and nobody did ally with me for nearly 2 centuries. I had to start wars by guaranteeing the independence of some nation to avoid infamy hits.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;29856735]Lets hope my attention span can last long enough to play through 2005 years of fucked up history.
Started out as the Angles in 5 AD, lets run this shit into the ground.[/QUOTE]
I went in fists flying as the vikings after the Huns died.
I got the shit kicked out of me by the Franks. Good luck with the Romans at their height... lol.
i got a problem
scotland and france are in a personal union in my england game i just started
is there a way to break up that union or will it dissolve on its own? its only 1 province but i wanna make sure that i get it, and i cant annex scotland while they are the junior partner
Scotland and France are always allied. You will have to fight both either way.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29895394]eu3 has way more primitive warfare mechanics though
not saying eu3 doesnt contain its fair share but with how simple the warfare mechanics are, war isnt really the big feature, more like one of many tools to expanding your power and influence
iv unfortunately never played vicky 2(im assuming thats the one you are talking about)
is it better than the original? is it playable even though you often dont have direct control over what factories get built?[/QUOTE]
It is true more primitive, but in EU 3 you can be on the top of all other countries and just after several months everything to turn against you and to felt how you can't defend. In EU 3 you can't just be Super power - because even small countries ambush for this position.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29899468]i got a problem
scotland and france are in a personal union in my england game i just started
is there a way to break up that union or will it dissolve on its own? its only 1 province but i wanna make sure that i get it, and i cant annex scotland while they are the junior partner[/QUOTE]
Wait for the French king to die. If you're lucky they won't have a mature heir, get a regency council and the union will dissolve. If you're unlucky France will inherit Scotland. Chances are, though, the union will just continue. Build up a massive strike force in Calais and DoW France.
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
If they do inherit then you'll actually be in a better position, as it costs less in terms of war score and infamy to win a province than it does to annex a whole country. Hell, occupy it long enough and they might even just flip to your rule anyway, then you can grab a province or two in France for the price of that Scottish one.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;29905920]Wait for the French king to die. If you're lucky they won't have a mature heir, get a regency council and the union will dissolve. If you're unlucky France will inherit Scotland. Chances are, though, the union will just continue. Build up a massive strike force in Calais and DoW France.
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
If they do inherit then you'll actually be in a better position, as it costs less in terms of war score and infamy to win a province than it does to annex a whole country. Hell, occupy it long enough and they might even just flip to your rule anyway, then you can grab a province or two in France for the price of that Scottish one.[/QUOTE]
the problem is fighting the french, they have like twice the manpower of me, and their armies are always bigger
should i just superstack it and combine all my armies so i can force through? iv been trying to divide up my army into slightly more smaller stacks for more flexibility since im used to hoi type warfare
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=fastbuddy;29902403]It is true more primitive, but in EU 3 you can be on the top of all other countries and just after several months everything to turn against you and to felt how you can't defend. In EU 3 you can't just be Super power - because even small countries ambush for this position.[/QUOTE]
well usually the goal of the game isnt just to be super power
i personally lay down goals at the beginning of what i wanna try to achieve like my england game im trying to do it somewhat historical, unify gb and colonize the new world as much as possible
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29911776]the problem is fighting the french, they have like twice the manpower of me, and their armies are always bigger
should i just superstack it and combine all my armies so i can force through? iv been trying to divide up my army into slightly more smaller stacks for more flexibility since im used to hoi type warfare[/QUOTE]
Well you'll want more stacks to deal with any French attacks behind your lines. Invest heavily in land tech until you're a few units ahead. Field lots of cavalry, especially if you're still very early in the Grand Campaign. Use artillery and infantry to siege provinces, and infantry and cavalry to fight enemy armies. Build a big main army to take on the invading armies, while using cannon and infantrymen to siege provinces. Always chase up losing armies. Basically read this page: [url]http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Basic_warfare[/url]
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;29913658]Well you'll want more stacks to deal with any French attacks behind your lines. Invest heavily in land tech until you're a few units ahead. Field lots of cavalry, especially if you're still very early in the Grand Campaign. Use artillery and infantry to siege provinces, and infantry and cavalry to fight enemy armies. Build a big main army to take on the invading armies, while using cannon and infantrymen to siege provinces. Always chase up losing armies. Basically read this page: [url]http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Basic_warfare[/url][/QUOTE]
what tech do you need to get cannons? i prolly should go pacifist for a couple decades to build up that tech
iv read basic warfare but that doesnt provide a whole lot of help in this case because france just completely outnumbers me, the biggest stack iv ever fielded was 6/12(cavalry/infantry) and they are easily pushing 20k stacks
Some video from AirotciV mod
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmR1auPto70[/url]
The first cannon is unlocked at level 4. If that's too far away then you'll probably do OK with a load of cavalry. If you're really worried about manpower, find a minor country without many alliances (and preferably outside the HRE) and annex them.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29913894]iv read basic warfare but that doesnt provide a whole lot of help in this case because france just completely outnumbers me, the biggest stack iv ever fielded was 6/12(cavalry/infantry) and they are easily pushing 20k stacks[/QUOTE]
If its possible you could try doing some attrition warfare for such massive stacks, just scorch the earth and try to bait his armies through them to get his troop numbers down to your level before you attack
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=fastbuddy;29914802]Some video from AirotciV mod
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmR1auPto70[/url][/QUOTE]
Can't check at the moment, but was the shogunate problem fixed?
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;29914813]The first cannon is unlocked at level 4. If that's too far away then you'll probably do OK with a load of cavalry. If you're really worried about manpower, find a minor country without many alliances (and preferably outside the HRE) and annex them.[/QUOTE]
it might be preferable to wait, i got my infamy up too fast and now im getting dow from castille, france, and once by an irish minor who had an alliance with brittany
so il just let things cool off as much as possible while i get my tech up then fuck up france and ireland for the rest of the isles
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Frayyyy;29915022]If its possible you could try doing some attrition warfare for such massive stacks, just scorch the earth and try to bait his armies through them to get his troop numbers down to your level before you attack
[/QUOTE]
the problem is i only have 2 holdings in the mainland to do attrition, calais which is next to burgundy(who has stayed surprisingly neutral in all my conflicts), and another at gascogne which isnt much territory to do attrition warfare effectively
[QUOTE=Frayyyy;29915022]If its possible you could try doing some attrition warfare for such massive stacks, just scorch the earth and try to bait his armies through them to get his troop numbers down to your level before you attack
[editline]18th May 2011[/editline]
In fact it wasn't much tested but at least the shogun flag is not from - Tajikistan :D
Can't check at the moment, but was the shogunate problem fixed?[/QUOTE]
It's probably already been asked and answered before, but are there any good guides/tutorials on how to understand/play EU3? Furthermore, if I was to buy this, should I go for the $14.99 EU3: Complete, or pay the extra $14.99 to also get Divine Wind and Heir to the Throne?
God damn the HRE. I'm playing that Airotciv posted a while back as Flanders and can barely get a good grip of the area because Austria keeps demanding my shit and if I refuse, my prestige plummets (it's already going down by 7,8 per year, going nicely into the negatives) and if I leave the HRE, Austria acts like a dick, takes the shit I already had and just to top it off their pope excommunicates me. Any tips on what to do? I took 3 provinces of Hainaut near the beginning of the game, and both Brabant and that one Orange nation at the north of Brabant are my vassals. I'd like to annex them, but the HRE is, as I said, dicking around.
Also, my trade centre in Antwerp just vanished for no reason, without warning. What gives? It halved my yearly income!
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29928826]It's probably already been asked and answered before, but are there any good guides/tutorials on how to understand/play EU3? Furthermore, if I was to buy this, should I go for the $14.99 EU3: Complete, or pay the extra $14.99 to also get Divine Wind and Heir to the Throne?[/QUOTE]
You definitely want the expansions, they solve so many problems...
Also, I can teach you some basics. Hit me up on steam.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29928826]It's probably already been asked and answered before, but are there any good guides/tutorials on how to understand/play EU3? Furthermore, if I was to buy this, should I go for the $14.99 EU3: Complete, or pay the extra $14.99 to also get Divine Wind and Heir to the Throne?[/QUOTE]
The most finished feeling game at the moment would be everything up to HTTT, DW still needs some ironing out but both are good
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29928826]It's probably already been asked and answered before, but are there any good guides/tutorials on how to understand/play EU3? Furthermore, if I was to buy this, should I go for the $14.99 EU3: Complete, or pay the extra $14.99 to also get Divine Wind and Heir to the Throne?[/QUOTE]
You can get the vanilla game and all four expansions for £20.
[editline]19th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=deltasquid;29929160]God damn the HRE. I'm playing that Airotciv posted a while back as Flanders and can barely get a good grip of the area because Austria keeps demanding my shit and if I refuse, my prestige plummets (it's already going down by 7,8 per year, going nicely into the negatives) and if I leave the HRE, Austria acts like a dick, takes the shit I already had and just to top it off their pope excommunicates me. Any tips on what to do? I took 3 provinces of Hainaut near the beginning of the game, and both Brabant and that one Orange nation at the north of Brabant are my vassals. I'd like to annex them, but the HRE is, as I said, dicking around.
Also, my trade centre in Antwerp just vanished for no reason, without warning. What gives? It halved my yearly income![/QUOTE]
Vassalise the electors. The CoT probably disappeared because there weren't enough merchants there.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29928826]It's probably already been asked and answered before, but are there any good guides/tutorials on how to understand/play EU3? Furthermore, if I was to buy this, should I go for the $14.99 EU3: Complete, or pay the extra $14.99 to also get Divine Wind and Heir to the Throne?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Main_Page[/url]
this is a good reference if you get stuck with anything
[QUOTE=fastbuddy;29846622]The mod begins from 5 A.D. to 2100 A.D.. It is unofficial stand alone mod for which there is no guarantee that works, but personally I haven't fell CTD.
This is the mod link [url]http://www.2shared.com/file/tD-AeZZW/AirotciV.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Fuck it, I'm wondering if it'll work without Divine Wind, Trying it without Divine Wind right now.
Hey fastbuddy, would you happen to be the creator of Airotciv? If so, how complete is the mod? What are some noticeable problems?
Also, the whole "European Union" thing really grinds my gears, and it'd be great if that were, maybe, a decision or some thing, but please don't have all of Europe as one nation in like, 1990.
But Airotciv doesn't apparantly need Divine Wind to run, which makes me question if its legal. I've started up a game as an African Minor, gonna see how this goes.
[QUOTE=Oneperson;29939411]Hey fastbuddy, would you happen to be the creator of Airotciv? If so, how complete is the mod? What are some noticeable problems?
Also, the whole "European Union" thing really grinds my gears, and it'd be great if that were, maybe, a decision or some thing, but please don't have all of Europe as one nation in like, 1990.
But Airotciv doesn't apparantly need Divine Wind to run, which makes me question if its legal. I've started up a game as an African Minor, gonna see how this goes.[/QUOTE]
nope not legal at all you dont need the original game to run the mod so basically its a warez version of the game
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