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Bit of a bump here, but anyone here feel like doing some co-op skirmish campaigns in Assault Squad?

I have decided that Russian tanks are massive piles of shit. The entire T-34 series is fucking retarded, including the SU-85 and SU-100. Slopes in this game seem to rarely work, as the T-34 would have 90-100mm of armor with the slope yet in the game it's penetrated by fucking everything as though the slope doesn't exist. I just played a game where PzIVs were penetrating it frontally from 100+ meters and 90% of the time ammo racking it. I don't think I lost a single T-34 or SU-85 without a bigass explosion, usually killing nearby infantry. If it doesn't instantly fucking explode its crew is injured due to the extremely low raw armor value of 45mm, so anything that actually manages to bounce or god forbid just plain not penetrate creates assloads of spall and injures the crew on every single non-penetration/bounce, even little 37mm and 50mm AT guns. Nevermind the massive lower hull weakness and the two blatantly unarmored spots on the front, the driver's hatch and hull MG. Alternatively I bought a KV on a few occasions but the thing kept getting its pathetic 75mm front turret penetrated by every goddamn tank in the match, losing the turret and 1-2 crewman. On the upside I never once saw a KV flat out killed, except for once when shot in the side by a PzIV, and HE shells seemed to affect it very little unless hit directly (and even then the crew was only confused for a couple seconds, it seemed less than other tanks), but its tinyass 76mm can't penetrate PzIVs nevermind stugs at 30 meters.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;30910095]I have decided that Russian tanks are massive piles of shit. The entire T-34 series is fucking retarded, including the SU-85 and SU-100. Slopes in this game seem to rarely work, as the T-34 would have 90-100mm of armor with the slope yet in the game it's penetrated by fucking everything as though the slope doesn't exist. I just played a game where PzIVs were penetrating it frontally from 100+ meters and 90% of the time ammo racking it. I don't think I lost a single T-34 or SU-85 without a bigass explosion, usually killing nearby infantry. If it doesn't instantly fucking explode its crew is injured due to the extremely low raw armor value of 45mm, so anything that actually manages to bounce or god forbid just plain not penetrate creates assloads of spall and injures the crew on every single non-penetration/bounce, even little 37mm and 50mm AT guns. Nevermind the massive lower hull weakness and the two blatantly unarmored spots on the front, the driver's hatch and hull MG. Alternatively I bought a KV on a few occasions but the thing kept getting its pathetic 75mm front turret penetrated by every goddamn tank in the match, losing the turret and 1-2 crewman. On the upside I never once saw a KV flat out killed, except for once when shot in the side by a PzIV, and HE shells seemed to affect it very little unless hit directly (and even then the crew was only confused for a couple seconds, it seemed less than other tanks), but its tinyass 76mm can't penetrate PzIVs nevermind stugs at 30 meters.[/QUOTE] i was with mbbird for the 2 previous matches me him, and 2 others experienced this i can vouch for this statement also the katyusha is a useless pile of fuck, and all MOW pubbers do is spam tanks and artillery which is fucking annoying even when you do everything such as lowering point levels, cp, and disabling everything past medium tanks and THEY STILL SOME HOW MANAGE TO HAVE 8 PANZER 4 G/H'S ON THE FIELD WHILE YOU HAVE ALMOST NONE AND AROUND 300 MP OF 3000

To be honest AS has pretty strange "balance" And APCR broke it even further

how to win mow: bros vs pubbies pubbies are more coordinated than 4 e-bros on mumble that have played together for over year spam panzer 4 g's, and lfh 18s, panzergrenadiers, and stugs in unison bros rage quit after 30 minute bullshit fest of being ^^^^^ mbbirds post ^^^^^ enemy wins [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zezibesh;30910195]To be honest AS has pretty strange "balance" And APCR broke it even further[/QUOTE] aka none dt29 worlds most op machine gun snipes mg42 crews at peak of its range mosin 1 shots all infantry panzer 4 master tank spam aryan race is-x master tank spam commie race centurion master tank spam bad teeth race arty spam master every race [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] usa sits in its corner and loses every time though because they decided to remove their only remote chance at taking on the bigger tanks, the t-29, while giving them hardly any variants of all the shermans and making the 76w over priced as fuck and the pershing and slugger weak as shit so usa is fuck all at heavier tanks and they don't get any experimental or after war vehicles while.. look here, is3, centurion and half the japanese tanks weren't used either: ever, or until after the war also giving them NO early game ranged anti-tank but instead giving them.....[B]FUCKING SHOT GUNNERS HOLY DICK [/b] which are as useful as a dvd rewinder instead of a boyes LIKE WE ACTUALLY DID WOW HOLY SHIT or fucking anti-tank rifle grenades LIKE WE DID HOLY SHIT instead of SHOTGUNS WOW THATS USEFUL ALOT IN MEN OF WAR!! also germans have king tiger as a normally purchasable tank and soviets have is3 which should REALLY be special order vehicles no instead the soviets get dumb shit like "FOR DA MOTHERLAND" or "ASSAULT TROOPS aka 2 t34/85s and a squad of infantry to assist in tank spam for mother russia lol", and the germans have some company of heroes bullshit "VETERAN TIGER" [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] oh and germans get brandenburgers and sturmtrupp and shit with 4 panzer fausts each for 2 and 5 special mp points respectively every other country gets shit literal shit. [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] also this thing [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_GMC[/url] [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] which reminds me they had the strosstrupp before the sturmtrupp which were perfectly fine as a heavily armed anti-tank unit with a [b]fucking tight halftrack[/b] for 4 special mp which was replaced by a not so cool stug with a 105 and only 4 sturmtrupp BUT WITH 4 PANZERFAUSTS WOW OK for 5 s-mp why they do this now i cant use the tight halftrack at all [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] but its ok to hate the game and love it at the same time because i nuked a flakpanzer 1 with a mortar

I can't even handle the MoW campaign so I'm scared to even try MP. So much micro.

BOW2 mod test mode. Oh yeah.

So me and a buddy were fucking around and I picked Radio operator. Not knowing what the fuck it was I picked the flare gun and shot one of his people in the face with it. No more then five seconds later I look over and he's exploded into mist. Cool.

Fast-Flankin a whole formation of tanks with a tankette. [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/FLANKAN.jpg[/IMG] Flanking too fast, actually [IMg]http://filesmelt.com/dl/FLANKAN_FAST_1.jpg[/IMG] The reason I love .50 [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/SPAMMAN.jpg[/IMG] OH GOD WHY DID I THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE MY INFANTRY BEHIND [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/jep.jpg[/IMG] a year later in desert. Lost my priest and one of my long-time shermans and captured a tiger and a pz3 I call them "Team Misery" [IMg]http://filesmelt.com/dl/lineup.jpg[/IMG]

I just find it hilarious how panzer 3's rape everything in this game for a while. It's like the only game where it happens.

Is the Veteran Tiger the best tank? I've been playing one Skirmish on hard and that single tiger took at least 150+ hits and it still a beast.

[QUOTE=DTKT;30913148]Is the Veteran Tiger the best tank? I've been playing one Skirmish on hard and that single tiger took at least 150+ hits and it still a beast.[/QUOTE] Sometimes the Tiger glitches for whatever reason. A couple of friends were playing when they captured a Tiger on a harder version of Koenigsberg and it was completely indestructible, getting hull destroyed at least thirty times with only the crew dying. Michael Wittmans tank.

[QUOTE=W0w00t;30910205] panzer 4 master tank spam aryan race [/QUOTE] If you lose to panzer 4 spam you're doing something wrong :v: [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DTKT;30913148]Is the Veteran Tiger the best tank? I've been playing one Skirmish on hard and that single tiger took at least 150+ hits and it still a beast.[/QUOTE] What were you shooting it with?

[QUOTE=Mbbird;30910095]I have decided that Russian tanks are massive piles of shit. The entire T-34 series is fucking retarded, including the SU-85 and SU-100. Slopes in this game seem to rarely work, as the T-34 would have 90-100mm of armor with the slope yet in the game it's penetrated by fucking everything as though the slope doesn't exist. I just played a game where PzIVs were penetrating it frontally from 100+ meters and 90% of the time ammo racking it. I don't think I lost a single T-34 or SU-85 without a bigass explosion, usually killing nearby infantry. If it doesn't instantly fucking explode its crew is injured due to the extremely low raw armor value of 45mm, so anything that actually manages to bounce or god forbid just plain not penetrate creates assloads of spall and injures the crew on every single non-penetration/bounce, even little 37mm and 50mm AT guns. Nevermind the massive lower hull weakness and the two blatantly unarmored spots on the front, the driver's hatch and hull MG. Alternatively I bought a KV on a few occasions but the thing kept getting its pathetic 75mm front turret penetrated by every goddamn tank in the match, losing the turret and 1-2 crewman. On the upside I never once saw a KV flat out killed, except for once when shot in the side by a PzIV, and HE shells seemed to affect it very little unless hit directly (and even then the crew was only confused for a couple seconds, it seemed less than other tanks), but its tinyass 76mm can't penetrate PzIVs nevermind stugs at 30 meters.[/QUOTE] I disagree. I just played a game in which my T-34 survived two direct rocket hits because they both hit right on the slope. Although yeah the T-34/76s don't do well against most of the Panzer IV models. That's to be expected though. Get a T-34/85 instead.

[QUOTE=hurts;30918935]I disagree. I just played a game in which my T-34 survived two direct rocket hits because they both hit right on the slope. Although yeah the T-34/76s don't do well against most of the Panzer IV models. That's to be expected though. Get a T-34/85 instead.[/QUOTE] he was using t34/85s [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=kirderf;30917398]If you lose to panzer 4 spam you're doing something wrong :v: [editline]5th July 2011[/editline] What were you shooting it with?[/QUOTE] its hard to counter panzer spam which is normally easy when they have 10 squads of panzergrenadiers and 10 artillery pieces when you've got 300 points at any given time and all your units are practically dead and they........1 hit your t34s at maximum range through the front whoa

[QUOTE=hurts;30918935]I disagree. I just played a game in which my T-34 survived two direct rocket hits because they both hit right on the slope. Although yeah the T-34/76s don't do well against most of the Panzer IV models. That's to be expected though. Get a T-34/85 instead.[/QUOTE] Bazookas/Panzerschreks/PIATs/etc in this game are about as effective as peashooters though, unable to pierce through 80mm of armor. Technically the T-34's front would be able to deflect that, so I'm not really surprised but I doubt I'd have the same luck if I relied on a rocket not penetrating its front. That still doesn't justify the raw armor value causing crew injuries every possible shell impact. And I do use T-34/85s, I use all of the T-34 models, just depends on the stage of the game.

can this run men of war assault squad on full settings? System Specification - Power Supply: OCZ 600w StealthXStream II - CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 850 "95W Edition" 3.30GHz Processor - Motherboard: nForce 630a (AM3) Motherboard - RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Hard Drives: 1TB HDD - Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560 1024MB GDDR5 graphics card - Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board) thanks

[QUOTE=Clark21;30927710]can this run men of war assault squad on full settings? System Specification - Power Supply: OCZ 600w StealthXStream II - CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 850 "95W Edition" 3.30GHz Processor - Motherboard: nForce 630a (AM3) Motherboard - RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Hard Drives: 1TB HDD - Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560 1024MB GDDR5 graphics card - Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board) thanks[/QUOTE] I think you should be able to run three men of war as'ses at the same time.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;30927618]Bazookas/Panzerschreks/PIATs/etc in this game are about as effective as peashooters though, unable to pierce through 80mm of armor. Technically the T-34's front would be able to deflect that, so I'm not really surprised but I doubt I'd have the same luck if I relied on a rocket not penetrating its front. That still doesn't justify the raw armor value causing crew injuries every possible shell impact. And I do use T-34/85s, I use all of the T-34 models, just depends on the stage of the game.[/QUOTE] Really? Weird. I usually have luck with T-34/85s against all the German tanks up to the tigers and panthers (speaking of frontal shooting.) Also yeah I just got AS yesterday and I've noticed rocket launchers are hugely nerfed from MoW.

just bought assault squad... finally and it seems little different than normal MoW anyone fancy a game?

[QUOTE=kirderf;30917398]If you lose to panzer 4 spam you're doing something wrong :v: [/QUOTE] It should be said that we were playing with no heavies.

i got men of war as today :smile:

So in AS, is the water supposed to look like a mirror on max settings? I run it on full and for some reason every source of water is like liquid silver.

[QUOTE=laxplayer77alt;30931269]just bought assault squad... finally and it seems little different than normal MoW anyone fancy a game?[/QUOTE] AS is more Skirmish/MP Oriented than other Of War games.

Also Goliath unit of the year [editline]6th July 2011[/editline] Also Goliath unit of the year MY AUTOMERGE! What the christ

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;30939931]AS is more Skirmish/MP Oriented than other Of War games.[/QUOTE] No i love MP, but it seems like the MP isn't as big as MoW. also is there any mods for it yet?

Chec out the Bonus Missions, Master of Barbeque is so damn funny. [editline]6th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=laxplayer77alt;30940087]No i love MP, but it seems like the MP isn't as big as MoW. also is there any mods for it yet?[/QUOTE] There's a couple, including one of mine [url=http://digitalmindsoft.eu/forums/showthread.php?8626-MOW-AS-No-Helmet-Loss]No Helmet Loss[/url] Alright, its a bit of a cheat, but I'm sick of having to tell my guys to pick up their helmets when they get shot off.

[QUOTE=Mrfantasticool;30939861]So in AS, is the water supposed to look like a mirror on max settings? I run it on full and for some reason every source of water is like liquid silver.[/QUOTE] Pretty much

Making skirmish maps, Hero unit. [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/paintrain.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Mrfantasticool;30939861]So in AS, is the water supposed to look like a mirror on max settings? I run it on full and for some reason every source of water is like liquid silver.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Normal is the same, just without the bugged reflections. I play with water on Low- I think it actually looks better.