[QUOTE=Snarfinho;33412891]Guys! I'm in really need of help in this game,i'm no expert,but still not completely retarded...but here's the deal!
Me and my friend play a lot together (most of time we do the skirmish on AS) but when comes to combat it's almost sure that he wins!here's our only rule - No Artillery (Yes,all of them,Mortars,Sturmtigers,Neberwerlfers....)
So I came here to ask you a good strategy to go against him,I always play as German and most of times he chooses U.S.A and likes to put at least 2 Heavy AT's (He already know that i like to save points and make a Tiger or a Elefant and hold him off)
So my point is i want to have a better strategy when fighting him,because he puts riflemen all over the map so he can spot them and at the same time throw the MOTHERFUCKING AT GRENADE that can explode and turn into scrap a tiger...
Any tips?[/QUOTE]
Artillery was invented and is used often for a very good reason. A good strategy is to tell him to stop being a dick and altering the game rules so that it fits his strategy.
1. Buy/select/steal/??? a tank (no matter light or heavy, as long as it has a cannon)
2. Reload Armor-Piercing round
3. Move to maximum range from the Anti-Tank Gun
4. Shoot at it until the crew dies or the cannon is damaged
5. Reload Explosive Shell
6. Move to optimal range for maximum accuracy
7. Blow the shit out of said Anti-Tank gun
This is why anyone who knows me never buys any AT-Emplacements against me, ever.
[sp]Or you could just, you know, buy a motorcycle, park it next to the gun and activate self destruct.[/sp]
It's kind of sad that most AT guns don't have the range needed to reach most tanks. Makes them way too much useless.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;33414652]1. Buy/select/steal/??? a tank (no matter light or heavy, as long as it has a cannon)
2. Reload Armor-Piercing round
3. Move to maximum range from the Anti-Tank Gun
4. Shoot at it until the crew dies or the cannon is damaged
5. Reload Explosive Shell
6. Move to optimal range for maximum accuracy
7. Blow the shit out of said Anti-Tank gun
This is why anyone who knows me never buys any AT-Emplacements against me, ever.
[sp]Or you could just, you know, buy a motorcycle, park it next to the gun and activate self destruct.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Who buys AT guns? I use willies at 24/7 because I'm pro.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;33414652]
This is why anyone who knows me never buys any AT-Emplacements against me, ever.
[sp]Or you could just, you know, buy a motorcycle, park it next to the gun and activate self destruct.[/sp][/QUOTE]
That works? Whoa.
Also, one of my best moments ever, threw dynamite uncooked into the back of a full, moving halftrack in multiplayer, he never noticed. Halftrack rolls past his jagdpanther, boom.
Pretty much lost 1/4 of his forces in one blow :v:
[QUOTE=MendozaMan;33413823]Sorry to burst your bubble, but no arty generally means no emplacements. Your friend is using that rule to stack the game in his favor by using nigh-uncounterable emplacement spam.
Also you can kill heavier, slower AT guns by sending 2 scout cars from 2 directions at the same time, provided he is not using AT riflemen or bazookas to guard his precious AT guns. Or autocannons. You can also use a sniper, snipe the crew and defenders, then send in a car of sorts and steal the gun through towing.[/QUOTE]
This is the worst problem,as I said,he put regular infantry all over the map in groups of 3~4 near of each so if i go with a car,he explode it before it reach his base,if i send a armoured car he throws At grenades...
I'll tell him to stop being a dick and let me use the artillery
[sp]He doesn't like artillery because the last time i made a Grille and a Neberwelfers (or whatever the name is) and destroyed everything is his base (filled with AT and barricades with paratroopers)[/sp]
[QUOTE=Snarfinho;33418754]This is the worst problem,as I said,he put regular infantry all over the map in groups of 3~4 near of each so if i go with a car,he explode it before it reach his base,if i send a armoured car he throws At grenades...
I'll tell him to stop being a dick and let me use the artillery
[sp]He doesn't like artillery because the last time i made a Grille and a Neberwelfers (or whatever the name is) and destroyed everything is his base (filled with AT and barricades with paratroopers)[/sp][/QUOTE]
Arty is very easily counter-able with tanks, light vehicles, spetznaz/saboteur/etc ...counter arty also works very well. Tell him he's a noob if he cant counter arty.
You can snipe nebels with a tank, as they only have 180 range, the heavy arties can be counter'd with hummel, etc.
Also, combat is a terrible mode IMO (is AS, base MoW is fine), in AS, assault zones are much more balanced (and fun IMO).
@guy above who was complaining about AT guns...
AT guns are very useful if used right...AT guns such as the Pak40, ZiS-2, M5 can penetrate P4, Sherman, T34 armor easily, while costing much less than a tank with the same gun...(T34-57, Sherman 76W, P4H(?) )
The AA guns are even more deadly (almost overpowered deadly) against tanks...
me and my friend always play combat on a team, 2v2 on bocage. (men of war assault zones) and i honestly don't remember the last time we lost a game. and we play this everyday a few games. we always play as america, usually against germany since it gets people to join. usually we end up with double the points of the other guys.
He doesn't like me using Artillery because of one thing...I put barricades in front of them,put 2~3 for rifleman near and put some Flaks AA near while the Tiger in the back snipes the heavy tanks coming with some medium AT's
basically i don't attack and let him come so he get pissed off about this...the last games i used artillery he ended up losting many mens and i losting a lot of tanks,but was almost sure that i win
[QUOTE=Snarfinho;33423905]He doesn't like me using Artillery because of one thing...I put barricades in front of them,put 2~3 for rifleman near and put some Flaks AA near while the Tiger in the back snipes the heavy tanks coming with some medium AT's
basically i don't attack and let him come so he get pissed off about this...the last games i used artillery he ended up losting many mens and i losting a lot of tanks,but was almost sure that i win[/QUOTE]
lol combat
Your strategy wont work in Assault zones, as you're more or less forced to attack/play agressively, or else you lose.
When i play Assault zones don't choose this style of play
I more like "Put some squad in the front,capture,put some scouts ahead,put a shitload of powerful weapons and tanks in the back covering the front and 1~2 men in the sides to cover any spy"
Are mines still broken? Did DMS abandon the game if so?
[QUOTE=Snarfinho;33423905]He doesn't like me using Artillery because of one thing...I put barricades in front of them,put 2~3 for rifleman near and put some Flaks AA near while the Tiger in the back snipes the heavy tanks coming with some medium AT's
basically i don't attack and let him come so he get pissed off about this...the last games i used artillery he ended up losting many mens and i losting a lot of tanks,but was almost sure that i win[/QUOTE]
Artillery is very vulnerable. He just needs to have one artillery piece, wait for you to fire yours then counter with his once he knows where yours is. Depending on how tightly your units are places he'll take out anything from just the artillery to infantry, flaks and damaging the KT.
Generally if he doesn't fire first, he'll turn out on top, since he'll take out your Arty while your barrage has a pretty small chance of doing equal damage.
Also if you want to avoid people turtling, play Assault Zones (though that can have the opposite problem, being a bit too aggressive focused).
[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]
Would be pretty awesome to have a mode that is a Double Frontline, two fortresses (or towns or whatever) with a HQ, first team to destroy the opponent's HQ wins (a bit like frontline, only that both teams have fortifications to defend and also have to think about attacking).
I need some reliable bros and pros with me tonight in some ranked matches
[QUOTE=acds;33446291]Artillery is very vulnerable. He just needs to have one artillery piece, wait for you to fire yours then counter with his once he knows where yours is. Depending on how tightly your units are places he'll take out anything from just the artillery to infantry, flaks and damaging the KT.
Generally if he doesn't fire first, he'll turn out on top, since he'll take out your Arty while your barrage has a pretty small chance of doing equal damage.
Also if you want to avoid people turtling, play Assault Zones (though that can have the opposite problem, being a bit too aggressive focused).
[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]
Would be pretty awesome to have a mode that is a Double Frontline, two fortresses (or towns or whatever) with a HQ, first team to destroy the opponent's HQ wins (a bit like frontline, only that both teams have fortifications to defend and also have to think about attacking).[/QUOTE]
Double Frontline is like my MoW DoTA idea but differentish, there would be [b]AI[/b] FlaKs and PaKs defending the HQ to put the focus on small squad tactics and micro
and yeah rocket artillery (BM-13, Calliope, Panzerwerfer preferably to avoid counterbattery fire, land mattress + damiler works as well) does wonders against gun artillery... can wipe an entire defensive position off the map
[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=smeismastger;33446755]I need some reliable bros and pros with me tonight in some ranked matches[/QUOTE]
maybe I can do it, I won't AFK as much as I did during the match in which you dropped.
Just made a match with him now me as Soviet Union and him with U.S.A
made a KV-1 in the begining so i could supress his med tanks and infantry while i make time to build more powerful things,so i saved for the IS-2 but turned out that he distracted my KV-1 with some soldiers and my IS-2 ended up with a AT grenade is his engine fucking everything...so i got pissed off and maked a ISU-152 and made a 152mm barrage in his artillery (by coincidence all of his arty was kinda near so was easy hiting 1,killing everyone on them,destroying the gun and sometimes hiting soldiers nearby
[QUOTE=smeismastger;33446755]I need some reliable bros and pros with me tonight in some ranked matches[/QUOTE]
How good are you? It' better IMO to play unranked for a while before going into ranked games...
[QUOTE=Angus725;33450048]How good are you? It' better IMO to play unranked for a while before going into ranked games...[/QUOTE]
Dude I am old Men of War vet, I can hold my shit.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;33447012]Double Frontline is like my MoW DoTA idea but differentish, there would be [b]AI[/b] FlaKs and PaKs defending the HQ to put the focus on small squad tactics and micro
and yeah rocket artillery (BM-13, Calliope, Panzerwerfer preferably to avoid counterbattery fire, land mattress + damiler works as well) does wonders against gun artillery... can wipe an entire defensive position off the map
[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]
maybe I can do it, I won't AFK as much as I did during the match in which you dropped.[/QUOTE]
Calliopes especially, those things can take quite a beating (especially for being rocket artillery). Katyushas are by far the most brittle, I mean fuck it's a pain to use them against any alert opponent who has even light artillery, usually they will fire back before you finish the barrage (Panzerwerfers are a quite a bit more protected at least).
I missed the megathread.
Should I get men of war vietnam or assault squad?
I mostly want to play multiplayer.
Assault Squad.
Isn't Vietnam pretty much Red Tide except in a diffrent setting?
[QUOTE=croguy;33451141]Isn't Vietnam pretty much Red Tide except in a diffrent setting?[/QUOTE]
Apparently.
[QUOTE]I missed the megathread.
Should I get men of war vietnam or assault squad?
I mostly want to play multiplayer.[/QUOTE]
MOW:AS
[QUOTE=croguy;33451141]Isn't Vietnam pretty much Red Tide except in a diffrent setting?[/QUOTE]
and a lot fewer missions...
I actually liked the last mission of Red Tide where the Romanians defect mid battle. and you get to kick some ass with Steyr M1912s
Goddamn, I was given vietnam anyways.
4 tanks, and no multiplayer?
You need this addon if you're going to play MoW vietnam
[url]http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26356[/url]
Was doing some testing of the new 1.98.8 patch with [DMS]Instinct today, apparently mid-game was expanded, but I didn't see much of a difference playing Germany (vs USA).
[QUOTE=acds;33450453]Calliopes especially, those things can take quite a beating (especially for being rocket artillery). Katyushas are by far the most brittle, I mean fuck it's a pain to use them against any alert opponent who has even light artillery, usually they will fire back before you finish the barrage (Panzerwerfers are a quite a bit more protected at least).[/QUOTE]
katyushas are decent if you fire on the move (iirc you can, most rocket artillery is quite flexible)
[editline]28th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Angus725;33471274]Was doing some testing of the new 1.98.8 patch with [DMS]Instinct today, apparently mid-game was expanded, but I didn't see much of a difference playing Germany (vs USA).[/QUOTE]
how was the mid-game expanded?
and did you have a chance to test mines?
Just had a interesting game, this guy with a thousand points was acting like a elitist([EPIC] TRIUMPH) or whatever), and I found out that apparently "how long have you fucking played this game? 1300 fucking hours must mean all you fucking do is sit in your house every day and every night and play the game." offended him enough to ragequit :/
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33483499]Just had a interesting game, this guy with a thousand points was acting like a elitist([EPIC] TRIUMPH) or whatever), and I found out that apparently "how long have you fucking played this game? 1300 fucking hours must mean all you fucking do is sit in your house every day and every night and play the game." offended him enough to ragequit :/[/QUOTE]
Yah, I use to be in clan with that guy. Complete douche, talks in a low draggy nerd voice that makes you wish he got laid.
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