Alright let's play a solo queue and try out Wukong a bit more
alright he's been selected let's try tanking for once
Leona has been selected
ok let's go a champ that's hardly picked with Lux
Lux has been selected
right...ok...nobody ever plays supports before 30, i'll play Sona
Sona has been selected
*rage queue dodge*
[QUOTE=nikomo;31369126]can't see shit captain, too small[/QUOTE]
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ENHANCE!
Blueplastic, why aren't you in the facepunch chatroom, ever?
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;31369203][IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/scuyrn.png[/IMG]
ENHANCE![/QUOTE]
warmogs, the optimal choice of second item for tryndamere
building health items on Wukong is awesome, the passive gives you the free arm and mr to back it up.
[QUOTE=kozhell;31369208]Blueplastic, why aren't you in the facepunch chatroom, ever?[/QUOTE]
because I'm mostly playing with my retarded 800 ELO friends.
Or ranked
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My first lose today!
YAY!
AND IT'S FUCKING RANKED
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Too bad I didn't make a screenshot when I had 4/0/0 while others had at least 1 death and no kills
[QUOTE=Daniellynet;31367772]He's Annie, but over time instead of insta burts.
He catches you and GG fuck off you're dead UNLESS you get a QSS.[/QUOTE]
or are gangplank
Wukong is boss
i owned opponent wukong and kayle alone
So is post-rework kayle as bad as everyone claims she would be?
Her new passive does seem pretty shit.
It is shit
Also since it's bugged it only reduces base armor and mr
So if they have like 30 base mr and 300 mr with items you'll only reduce 3 after 5 hits
lol
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Kayle was designed by Ezreal and Guinsoo, remade by Coronach and reworked by [B]Shurelia[/B].
Oh
oh
[QUOTE=nige111;31370564]So is post-rework kayle as bad as everyone claims she would be?
Her new passive does seem pretty shit.[/QUOTE]Every single aspect of her was a nerf.
I love when idiots think they can turret dive singed. Both akali and jarvan try to turret dive me. I poison them. Slow them. Flip them around. DOUBLE KILL. Fuck yah..went 7/0/6 that game.
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Also: Save for wukong? or buy GP now?
Q and E were buffed, but W and her passive was nerfed wayyyy too hard, so overall it's a nerf
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lol nerf healing too OP
but let Nid keep her 1.25 ratio
[QUOTE=Murdoco;31370855]I love when idiots think they can turret dive singed. Both akali and jarvan try to turret dive me. I poison them. Slow them. Flip them around. DOUBLE KILL. Fuck yah..went 7/0/6 that game.
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Also: Save for wukong? or buy GP now?[/QUOTE]Apparently Wukong is pretty average whereas GP is still fairly strong after his nerfs? I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Jund;31370871]Q and W were buffed, but E and her passive was nerfed wayyyy too hard, so overall it's a nerf
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lol nerf healing too OP
but let Nid keep her 1.25 ratio[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure W is her heal which was hella nerfed. Q is only a "buff" if you didn't build AP Kayle pre-remake which means you're probably a bad Kayle. With standard AP runes and a Doran's Ring start, pre-remake Kayle's Q hits harder than post-remake Kayle's Q.
Yeah, but it wasn't a hit to Q that did that, it was her passive
Whoops I got her W and E mixed up, my badddd
Righteous Fury did get buffed, but when you take into account her previous passive it's VERY slight
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[QUOTE=Jund;31370957]Yeah, but it wasn't a hit to Q that did that, it was her passive
Whoops I got her W and E mixed up, my badddd[/QUOTE]You can't just isolate a skill and say that the changes made to it were buffs, you have to look at the champion as a whole.
I am
Q and E got buffed, but since her passive got nerfed she got nerfed overall
That's what I said in the beginning
I like monkey-dood, but I still don't pentakill people with him... yet... >=D
[QUOTE=Belivo;31371656]I like monkey-dood, but I still don't pentakill people with him... yet... >=D[/QUOTE]
You feed as monkey dood
I like monkey-dood but I still don't have a patch.... yet.... D=<
[QUOTE=nige111;31370564]So is post-rework kayle as bad as everyone claims she would be?
Her new passive does seem pretty shit.[/QUOTE]
It's shitty NOW, but once they fix it it'll be pretty good.
The only problem is that with her OLD passive, there was a good reason to get AP, because your AD and AP affect each other and everything is good. Now, 90% of your damage comes from AD. Problem is, you need AP to build your heal to not suck dicks, and your splash damage on E (which is small, admittedly) scales at 60 + .2(AP). So you want AP so you can have some clutch heals (and healing for 45 is not a clutch heal), but AP bonus splash is also nice. It's not a LOT of bonus damage, but if you max your attack speed, it'll stack REALLY fast.
So ideally on Kayle you want AS and AD the most, followed by AP, and then whatever else. CD is good.
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Righteous Fury is now a priority, and Q's kind of shitty. It's less of a nuke and more of a slow, but in the long run it'll let you hit way harder because you'll have more time to attack them with stuff.
She's basically ashe with a bad heal and different ult but also splash damage.
Best build for new, shitty broken Kayle:
Rush a Nashor's because you'll need it.
Zerk Boots
Malady
Cleaver
Gunblade
Trin Force (personal preference) or Madred
Revert passive and Buff Q to say 15-20 increased damage and give righteous fury built in mpen&arp.
[QUOTE=DigitalySane;31371966]Revert passive and Buff Q to say 15-20 increased damage and give righteous fury built in mpen&arp.[/QUOTE]
Buffing Q's not really needed if they revert her passive. They upped the AP ratio so it's not 100%, not 80%. Slows 10% more, goes faster. The only thing that is annoying is the flat 5% damage increase instead of 16%, but that's okay.
It makes much more sense to give righteous fury mpen/arpen, yeah. Considering most good Kayles will have E on when they attack (and eventually like 100% of the time if they want it), it seems much smarter to do that than waste a passive.
The bad thing that riot does with character originating arp% and mpen% is that it only applys to base armour and mres so riot pretty much gave her no passive rather than a passive.
[QUOTE=DigitalySane;31372085]The bad thing that riot does with character originating arp% and mpen% is that it only applys to base armour and mres so riot pretty much gave her no passive rather than a passive.[/QUOTE]
Once they fix it, she'll be annoyingly good. For now, she's DECENT but not great.
She's somewhat similar to the underrated ranged carry's i.e kog maw.
[QUOTE=Hanibal;31372311]finished fiddledicks[/QUOTE]
Looks good, but the only thing I dislike is the baby scythe.
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Also, use [noparse][thumb][/thumb][/noparse] now.
I think laz became buttmad after that round, I was AD kogmaw, he was lanefiddle, I asked him to mid because I'm not used to midding kog against anivia, he ignores me then bitches about me dying to non SS's ganks a few times, then we finally switch and I end up with a better KDR than him :3
Reducing their armor/mr doesn't seem like a bad passive, but the amount it reduces.. meh
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