Healer nerfs seem pretty stupid.
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Blitz and Annie free week. Fuck.
You guys are over-reacting with the soraka nerfs
Go re-read through the thread
Shurelia has already explained that they are just placeholders and are going to be changed around after testing.
The point of this nerf is to make it so that she cant just sit there and insta-sustain her and her lane partner.
Edit: In all honesty you guys complain SOOOOOOOOOOOO much after reading maybe a line of text (understand that im talking to a couple people, not everyone in this thread)
edit2: r8 me l8 if someone's already said this
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;31754978]Can Kog'Maw be good as AP?[/QUOTE]Best build on Kog is to get items like Wit's end, Madred's etc.
Goodnight facepunch
[QUOTE=.Kaleb;31757221][URL]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1102898[/URL]
SUSTAIN NERFS
SORAKA GETTING HIT SO FUCKING HARD.[/QUOTE]
[B]Soraka[/B]
* Starcall
** Cooldown reduced to 2.5 from 3
** Base damage reduced to 60/85/110/135/160 from 60/90/120/150/180
** AP ratio increased to .4 from .25
** Mana cost reduced to 35/40/45/50/55 from 40/50/60/70/80
** Shred increased to 8/9/10/11/12 from 8/8/8/8/8
** Maximum stacks reduced to 10 from 20
Like it.
* Astral Blessing
** AP Ratio reduced to 0.45 from 0.9
** Cooldown increased to 20 from 10
** Base Heal increased to 65/130/195/260/325 from 60/120/180/240/300
** Armor Buff increased to 25/50/75/100/125 from 20/35/50/65/80
** Armor buff duration increased to 5 from 4
** Cast range increased to 750 from 650
Like mostly, range increase makes me safer in lane and extra armor and base heal, but CD increase and shit fucking low AP ratio.. Bye unverse battlemage AP Soraka. :( Will miss you.
* Infuse
** AP ratio increased to .75 from .6
** Cooldown reduced to 10 from 15
** Silence duration compressed to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3
** No longer grants double mana to soraka on selfcast.
LOL. They nerf AP ratios on heal and buff it on infuse, nice troll Riot. :geno: Fuck, lane sustain will be fucking hard now.
Shit patch, fuck.
[QUOTE=Clow2004;31759164]You guys are over-reacting with the soraka nerfs
Go re-read through the thread
Shurelia has already explained that they are just placeholders and are going to be changed around after testing.
The point of this nerf is to make it so that she cant just sit there and insta-sustain her and her lane partner.
Edit: In all honesty you guys complain SOOOOOOOOOOOO much after reading maybe a line of text (understand that im talking to a couple people, not everyone in this thread)
edit2: r8 me l8 if someone's already said this[/QUOTE]Yeah maybe the nerfs will be even bigger!
[QUOTE=Jund;31757484]LMAO no reason to ever play a healer now
Annie can Q 5 times for the time Soraka can heal once
Dani's gonna be mad...[/QUOTE]
I am fucking mad right now.
If Riot is gonna play like this, fuck them.
Carry all games, and if I'm tank I'm taking carry CS because I can't tank without items.
[QUOTE=Daniellynet;31759196]Best build on Kog is to get items like Wit's end, Madred's etc.[/QUOTE][B]==Overview==[/B]
AP Kogmaw is a squishy son of a bitch, but he's fun because 3/4ths of his shit can be done from 1000+ range. He is vulnerable to being chased down due to his low base movespeed (305)[[url]http://pastebin.com/K7f27gtX[/url]] and complete lack of distancing moves.
This means that if anyone gets in melee range of you then someone is going to die. This isn't always you, though! Kogmaw has awesome damage output if you have moderate farm.
[B]==Patch Notes==[/B]
*The most recent (Leona) patch made his R drop faster. This is actually a big deal because you can now reliably hit targets with boots without Rylai's.
*He also got a duration buff to his W, which makes it a far, far better skill. It was decent before, but now it's actually your #1 lane harass tool. It's low mana and has great uptime!
[B]==Weaknesses==[/B]
*Lack of distancing moves combined with slow movespeed.
*Reliance on farm to do more than meaningless pokes.
*Huge reliance on mana. If you're OOM then you're super duper worthless.
**It's also really easy to run yourself dry with careless use of R.
[B]==Strengths==[/B]
*Best range in the game!
*Insane damage output with Max CDR as long as you have mana.
*Ridiculously fun to kill runners with a series of 3 R hits.
**Lategame: Ridiculously fun to kill full-health champs with a series of 3 R hits.
*Amazing farm capability. E + R and a few autoattacks will clear entire waves.
[B]==Item Build==[/B]
*Core
**Boots + 3 hp pots
**Philo Stone
**Malady + Doran's Ring
**Sorc Shoes
**If you need MR OR DAMAGE: get Wit's End
***A little math knowledge: Wit's does more damage per hit than Bloodrazor up to 1200 hp. This is a fairly common hitpoint number right around level 9. Wit's end also costs a total of 2000 gold compared to Bloodrazor's expensive-as-fuck 3800(!!).
**If you need Armor: Madred's
*Ancillary
**Bloodrazor and/or Wit's End (if you didn't get them in Core)
***Bloodrazor isn't offensively optimal, in my experience, ''until the attack speed from the item is playing a large part in its overall dps.'' Basically, get this item after Wits and after ______ and buy it when you're thinking "Golly I wish I was attacking faster".
***The item requires a Pickaxe (975g, 25ad) for which you have no armorpen or crit for, and the upgrade cost (775g, MINUS 10AD, +7armor, +proc) is also steep. That's 1600 gold. That's a blasting staff and an amp tome and change; you'd be 700 gold off of a Void Staff whose overall profile is almost certainly going to add more oomph than Bloodrazor.
***All this being said, Bloodrazor is a worthy endgame Big Fucking Item. Just don't rush it and neglect your Q, E, and R.
**Rylai's
***Only get Rylai's AFTER Madred's or Wit's End, having a huge HP pool with 0 resists isn't efficient
**Deathcap
***I like my maw a little closer to the Artillery Cannon side of the autoattack continuum.
***Kog has amazing ratios on all of his stuff. If you can manage blue buff priority in a game, I'd suggest going full AP blaster instead of on-hit (still get malady).
**Void Staff.
***Actually mandatory for endgame, but runes+shoes+malady is 54 Magic Pen, and if you tag them with (level 5) Q it's 79 MPen+15%mastery. That's quite a bit, and Void Staff isn't necessary until Irelia/Warwick start getting FoN/Banshees.
***And for the people you're not autoattacking, all you have is 29+15%. So hitting runners with 100ish MR with your R is severely reduced until Void Staff comes along.
***Please also note that Void Staff increases the damage done by your W twofold: 80AP = .8% more health per hit, and 40% Mpen is applied to that damage.
**Trinity Force
***Also pro 6th item because of cost/efficiency. The phage proc and movespeed bonus, in particular, are very useful. Doesn't give the same raw offensive punch that Gunblade does (and no vamp), but the plethora of useful stats make up for it.
**Banshee's Veil
***Has, bizarrely, seen a huge dropoff in appearances per game. For Koggie, this item is still king. He stands far enough away that the bubble isn't going to be popped by some worthless poke and the mana you gain from the item is actually an extremely potent offensive tool. Oh yeah, and Health/MR.
**Phantom Dancer
***Is now the defensive item of choice on nearly every carry, but if you're thinking of getting one just stick with a zeal until you can get Trinity. Crit is your worst offensive stat. Trinity gives 15% movespeed compared to phantom dancer's 16%.
[B]==Runes==[/B]
*Red: Mpen (+9Mpen)
*Yellow: Scaling Health (+175HP @ 18)
*Blue: Flat CDR (+5.86% CDR) or Scaling AP (28AP @18)
*Purple: Movespeed (+4.5%)
[B]==Masteries Summoner Spells==[/B]
*9/0/21
*Ghost/Flash
*You need them escapes
[B]==Skill Order==[/B]
*R> W ≥ E > Q
**Since playing him a lot as a kind of AP/Autoattack hero, I've come to love W. I don't even get a point in Q until level 10ish, and usually at the expense of a point in E. The extra range makes harassing (or last hitting from safety) in-lane far easier, and come level 9ish teamfighting, level 5 W + malady tears people up bad.
[B]==Protipz==[/B]
*Don't spam R.
*Grab golem buff as often as possible.
**@18, 15% runes/masteries + 25% golem = 40%
*Buy wards and protect your lane!
*Be extremely careful about wandering through the river/jungle. Kogmaw doesn't have teleports or movespeed abilities, so if the enemy has warded/noticed you moving and moves to intercept, you're probably dead.
**So basically sit tight, ward your own lane, farm and push.
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not my guide
post index: DNKog001FP
[QUOTE=KStyleAzure;31758090]I probably declined because I hate everyone on FP.
Let me check.
Yep, i declined[/QUOTE]So you hate me? :(
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[QUOTE=elevator13;31758117]if lane sustain was so OP they could've hit the mana costs and base heal like they did with Taric eons ago
now Soraka has shit scaling and Sona's heal (which was miserable outside of laning) is even worse[/QUOTE]
This..
Let's buff base heal that helps laning phase and nerf end game. :downs:
WHY?
Make like 1.5 AP ratio on W, but make base like 200 level 5, possibly increase mana, but DON'T NERF FUCKING LATE GAME. /rage
[QUOTE=KStyleAzure;31759289]Yeah maybe the nerfs will be even bigger![/QUOTE]
Maybe they will right xd
Complaining fixes everything too from what i hear!
The nerfs were needed. They could be done in a different manner but are still needed. Soraka and her partner are invincible in lane.
[QUOTE=Jund;31758488]Oh! Um Dani...
Nice um... weather we're having
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PS please don't read the last page
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pls[/QUOTE]
If I was at home I'd be raging right now, I got chemistry right now though. FUCK SAKE.
Oh fuck it's free Blitzcrank week
[QUOTE=DTkach;31759008]Healer nerfs seem pretty stupid.
[editline]16th August 2011[/editline]
Blitz and Annie free week. Fuck.[/QUOTE]
Wow, fuck me. This made this week EVEN WORSE. OMFG.
So, I hear this is pretty similar to HoN
I've also never played HoN
[QUOTE=Clow2004;31759164]You guys are over-reacting with the soraka nerfs
Go re-read through the thread
Shurelia has already explained that they are just placeholders and are going to be changed around after testing.
The point of this nerf is to make it so that she cant just sit there and insta-sustain her and her lane partner.
Edit: In all honesty you guys complain SOOOOOOOOOOOO much after reading maybe a line of text (understand that im talking to a couple people, not everyone in this thread)
edit2: r8 me l8 if someone's already said this[/QUOTE]
It's fucking Riot.
Either
a) It's "buggy" and she stays UP as fuck for 2 weeks or
b) They overnerf fucking hard and don't do shit before 4-6 weeks.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;31759384]So, I hear this is pretty similar to HoN
I've also never played HoN[/QUOTE]
Its more casual then HoN, easier to get into.
Omg Deathfire Mordekaiser owns. Gunblade, Deathfire, Ult, ignite, you die.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;31759384]So, I hear this is pretty similar to HoN
I've also never played HoN[/QUOTE]Much more casual compared to Hon.
/please don't start a HoN, Dota, LoL discussion thanks.
I like how more than half of this weeks free champs we're either free 1-2 weeks ago.
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Rammus, Maokai, Caitlyn, Kog, Blitz
[QUOTE=Lazyboy0337;31759405]Omg Deathfire Mordekaiser owns. Gunblade, Deathfire, Ult, ignite, you die.[/QUOTE]
DFG such a waste on Morde. Es suck.
Last game of the day...a while ago.
Awww the goold ol'days of free troll wins.
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[QUOTE=Prism;31759527]I like how more than half of this weeks free champs we're either free 1-2 weeks ago.
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Rammus, Maokai, Caitlyn, Kog, Blitz[/QUOTE]
Lol was about to say:
Mh, wondering if Cait is free since she's free a lot.
Lol she's free, Annie free again, Yi free again.
Where's Zil and Ashe?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;31752607]I am seriously tired of playing with people without a sense of humor, or people that lack the ability to recognize any sort of sarcasm.
I often say something like "Hah, got you this time" when I kill someone, and I almost always get "GTFO NERD" as a response. And after a whole game of this person hating me for something meant to be a joke, even if I try to be nice and say "Nice kill, dude", or "Nice score" I get another response such as "YEAH? NICE NOW GTFO".
These people sure are weird. Unfriendly players are what ruins a match for me.[/QUOTE]
I remember when I said to someone "I've got this lane, you go back and heal"
"stfu noob don't tell me what to do"
????
[QUOTE=ashxu;31759667]I remember when I said to someone "I've got this lane, you go back and heal"
"stfu noob don't tell me what to do"
????[/QUOTE]
Uggghhhhh why does LoL have to be full of so many idiots?
[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;31758620]Don't Nerf op Rumble or [B]LB[/B] just nerf the healers.[/QUOTE]
SHUT THE FUCK UP
tbh i don't like the idea of having supports in the current state they are anyway, its kinda boring to play them and would be cool to have them replaced with another kinda role which requires more interaction and thinking and isn't so mind numbingly boring
[QUOTE=dvondrake;31759749]Earlier today I was in a game where our mid was getting completely shat on and my friend offered to trade mid, and the guy just completely freaked out calling my friend a shit player. Why? I don't know. We both had about 3 kills and no deaths at the time while mid was 0-4.
Also, thinking of buying Irelia--good choice?[/QUOTE]
yes irelia is amazing
Jesus fuck. The enemy Brand got fed. Ended up having about 600 AP.
where are you guys getting these patch notes things from.
and why is there a blitzcrank champ spotlight, he's not getting any changes so I don't see why this was really necessary.
Just a complete waste of time on Riot's part imo.
[QUOTE=ashxu;31760004]where are you guys getting these patch notes things from.
and why is there a blitzcrank champ spotlight, he's not getting any changes so I don't see why this was really necessary.
Just a complete waste of time on Riot's part imo.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps the forums? Iono
riot is my favorite video game company
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