[QUOTE=maxolina;31935391]How much do you get per game in average and how much does the average champion cost?[/QUOTE]
It's like 100x times easier than getting HoN's silver goblin coins and getting heroes
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;31929825]Also, is it just me or is Lee Sin's base HP really low?
Whenever I jungle with him and only have Wriggle's I feel so squishy... :<
[editline]25th August 2011[/editline]
Lee Sin Q, 2 part damage:
Q - 340 (+2.0bAD) (+10% of target missing HP)
Talon W, 2 part damage:
W - 260 (+1.6bAD) (+40% slow)
hmm[/QUOTE]
Wow Flub can't jungle Lee Sin gg
Always full hp in jungle, heal like 50% max hp per camp
L2 jungle Lee Sin
And you can't really compare Lee Sin's Q and Talon's W
lee Sin over Talon all day every day
Why do people hate mundo's? I guess its cause so many idiots follow mobafires #1 build aka tankmundo not tankydps mundo.1
Tankydps mundo too gud.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/0As82.png[/img]
seem to sum up talon pretty well
I like to play him in the jungle.
Wait what happened why did I think I was Phreak for a second
someone give me a guide for talon so I can play him, like what items should I aim to have
I'm getting used to building armour for ad and mr for ap etc now too :toot:
[QUOTE=Espio;31935572]someone give me a guide for talon so I can play him, like what items should I aim to have
I'm getting used to building armour for ad and mr for ap etc now too :toot:[/QUOTE]
Is he AP or AD?
Trinity force is overrated
Blue Plastic™ is overrated.
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;31934195]
Bla bla bla Doran's and Rylais suck on Cass[/QUOTE]
The reason why Dorans is good, it's got 3 stats which are great for Cass for the whole game
Cass has low basehealth, 455 to 555 is a huge difference makes it easier for you to win your lane.
15 AP, again a big difference at level1, and 5 mana regen makes you able to spam your spells more often.
Your other options for a first item are: Boots + pots, Meki pendant + pots,
Meki pendant should be taken only if you are under level 30 and have no mana regen runes.
Boots + pots, it can be alright against skillshot characters if you're unable to dodge them, I'm usually alright without boots.
Though by taking the boots you're missing out on damage output and health. The potions make you able to heal away the enemy harassment but hey, you're Cass you're better at harassing than most champions so he should be the one getting harassed, in a 1on1 fight potions wont do shit and you've got 100 health and 15 AP less, you're more likely to have to flash out and use your potions instead of kill him and go shopping.
Why Rylais is better than RoA, the stats,
Rylais and a full RoA have the same AP, Rylais wins because it doesn't take 10 minutes to reach it.
RoA has a bit more health than Rylais after a while so RoA wins there
RoA has mana Rylais doesn't, tbh extra mana is a useless stat on Cass.
Rylais has a slow, Cass is a slow champion, when an enemy is getting out of your Q range but still in your W range that extra slow can make a difference, and seeing as it makes all your skills slow you will stay in range after catching up, it can also save running teammates.
The main reason why I like Rylais together with the slow is the items it's made up of,
When you go back as Cass, you have the option to take:
the yellow rod thing + amp tome(it's going great I'm dominating him)
Boots + the yellow rod thing, (it's going good but I need more movement)
boots + amp tome + maybe some potions (it's not going good but this can get me back into it)
giants belt (oh shit I need a lot of health)
With RoA all you can do is get Catalyst(less health for more money)
Or get the yellow rod thing.
Sometimes you don't have the money for the yellow rod but you need more damage fast, what can you do?(lol buy a dorans ring)
[QUOTE=Kendra;31935591]Is he AP or AD?[/QUOTE]
the stat page says attack
never played an attack damage hero before uh-oh
HOLY FUCK PATCH IS GOING AT GOOD SPEED ATM
hope I didn't jynx it
[QUOTE=Hamsterman;31935645].[/QUOTE]
No
[QUOTE=Jund;31935685]No[/QUOTE]
Yes
i personally start with dorans, rush roa and then get either deathcap if i'm fine surviving and don't really need the slow but need ap a lot more or rylais if it isn't going too good and need more health and the slow. after i get one i get the other anyway, and then i usually get phantom hourglass or scepter.
What kind of logic is that
"I don't want to get a tanky AP item because I already have a tanky AP item"
Meki start means a Tear
Which in that case enjoy being instakilled by that Annie or Malz
[QUOTE=Kendra;31935674]HOLY FUCK PATCH IS GOING AT GOOD SPEED ATM
hope I didn't jynx it[/QUOTE]
It's going to have like 5mb left and you're going to suddenly switch to 52KB dialup speeds
i won a game in solo queue, what is the meaning of this!!
[QUOTE=Jund;31935727]What kind of logic is that
"I don't want to get a tanky AP item because I already have a tanky AP item"
Meki start means a Tear
Which in that case enjoy being instakilled by that Annie or Malz[/QUOTE]
If this is pointed at me, I said Dorans > Boots > Meki though I can understand Meki cause at lower levels you might not have the mana regen to not get tear.
[QUOTE=spanaren;31935717]i personally start with dorans, rush roa and then get either deathcap if i'm fine surviving and don't really need the slow but need ap a lot more or rylais if it isn't going too good and need more health and the slow. after i get one i get the other anyway, and then i usually get phantom hourglass or scepter.[/QUOTE]
Basically this is how you build Cass, with Doran's being swappable depending on which lane you're in and who you're laning with/against
[QUOTE=Jund;31935338]Holy fuck Talon's numbers are crazy
I should buy him before he gets nerfed[/QUOTE]
DONT.
You've seen the leaked numbers. THOSE ARE WRONG.
The actual numbers are very low. Doesn't do that much damage.
The wiki numbers are the leak ones?
The only thing suspicious is his Q bleed, since it keeps changing
Q - generic onhit that doesnt add that much damage
W - cone that does decent damage. 260(+1.6 bonus AD) (like 1.5 seconds of Garen Judgement)
E - generic gap closer with a non-scaling silence that has TINY damage amp at level 1 (3%, ludicrous)
R - Cool, but if they made it so that the more daggers hit the more damage it does, rather than just make it like Razor's (from dota) normal ability...
Is there a ETA of Dominion?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Df1H6.jpg[/IMG]
What the fucking hell. Where does MM find these retards?
[QUOTE=Jund;31935885]The wiki numbers are the leak ones?
The only thing suspicious is his Q bleed, since it keeps changing[/QUOTE]
How are his numbers high?
Passive - Less damage than corki passive
Q - no comment, don't know real numbers
W - 260 (+1.6 bonus AD) okay damage
E - very little damage amp early levels, 1 sec silence quite low
Ult - 600 (+1.8 bonus AD) nearly the same as lee sin's kick damage
Not really high numbers...
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;31935952]How are his numbers high?
Passive - Less damage than corki passive
Q - no comment, don't know real numbers
W - 260 (+1.6 bonus AD) okay damage
E - very little damage amp early levels, 1 sec silence quite low
Ult - 600 (+1.8 bonus AD) nearly the same as lee sin's kick damage
Not really high numbers...[/QUOTE]
Those are so wrong. There is no way those are that high.
the only time I buy a Doran's item is when I know the game is gonna be tough, otherwise I always rush an item.
Talon's numbers...
Q - .3/1.2
W - .6
E - None
R - .9
All bonus AD.
Flub are you insane?
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