League of Legends

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Prism;32057909]You forgot about GP :v:[/QUOTE]

If you build GP glass cannon it's gg for you if enemy team has the slightest portion of a brain and knows what the word "focus" means.

When was the last time you saw a high-elo GP go full dps? They always rush triforce and then get a bit of tanky then infinity edge or they rush atmogs then get more dps...

[Shanto]

[QUOTE=Banned?;32058017]Well

say "Fuck you, I'm playing Deus Ex."[/QUOTE]

Oh, I that's my bad, I for some reason always say yes anyway in the hopes that my losing streak will stop.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;32058004]Trynda[/QUOTE]

Trynd isn't really that viable either, he's really just a pubstomper.

Every single glass cannon melee champion is a pubstomper if you build them so.

[Tyhap]

So, all the giveaways are over?

Also our team just game annie bot triple kill a couple of times.

[Fire]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058069]If you build GP glass cannon it's gg for you if enemy team has the slightest portion of a brain and knows what the word "focus" means.[/QUOTE]

but i ate oranges and it was k

[Blueplastic]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058077]Trynd isn't really that viable either, he's really just a pubstomper.

Every single glass cannon melee champion is a pubstomper if you build them so.[/QUOTE]

High ELO players play everyone tanky DPS except Trynda.
Watching high ELO streams every day yo

[Debauchery]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058077]Trynd isn't really that viable either, he's really just a pubstomper.

Every single glass cannon melee champion is a pubstomper if you build them so.[/QUOTE]
You could just dunk them as Yi.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Dragonblz;32058105]but i ate oranges and it was k[/QUOTE]

but i instagib you and it was gg (annie doesnt need a stun to instakill you)

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Hmm, if people built Irelia full dps and stomped in low elo she would get nerfed too.

Why the fuck did people have to build Xin full dps in low elo so he gets nerfed?

[Banned?]

*opens up LoL launcher*
*gets to login screen*
"Mmmmmm...nah."
*closes login screen and sits around doing nothing*

[Fire]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058123]but i instagib you and it was gg (annie doesnt need a stun to instakill you)

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Hmm, if people built Irelia full dps and stomped in low elo she would get nerfed too.

Why the fuck did people have to build Xin full dps in low elo so he gets nerfed?[/QUOTE]

You're a really stupid GP player if you dive in a team fight soon enough for annie/anyone else to blow all her cooldowns on you or to get hit by all the aoe

also annie is squishy so glass cannon GP should one-two shot her

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Dragonblz;32058192]You're a really stupid GP player if you dive in a team fight soon enough for annie/anyone else to blow all her cooldowns on you or to get hit by all the aoe

also annie is squishy so glass cannon GP should one-two shot her[/QUOTE]

So you're just gonna let your whole team do a 4v5 while you sit at the back watching, and then somehow assume you're going to miraculously clean up 3 people?

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

No way on Earth will GP two-shot or even 3 shot an Annie, since they usually get Rylai's and RoA, 3k hp.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Like I said, it's better to build tanky and be able to be there for most of the fight so you can actually deal some damage to the people who matter rather than going full glass cannon and letting your team 4v5 and then attempt to clean up, which usually doesn't even work vs. a slightly coordinated team.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

And what the fuck happens when enemy team initiates on your team? What if an ashe arrow hits your malz.

Do you just run away like a pussy expecting your team to win a 4v5 then come back to the lower hp enemies and try to clean them up or something? By then, your whole team is dead except for you and you're left to defend the nexus against 3-5 relatively high hp champions.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

If you're trying to prove that melee glass cannons are viable you will never be able to.

Ranged glass cannons are just so much better because a good ranged AD carry will be able to have good positioning during teamfights and not get caught up in all the aoe shitstorm raging upon their team.

[Roov]

But how can you dunk people then???

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Prism;32058377]But how can you dunk people then???[/QUOTE]

you dont

[Fire]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058293]So you're just gonna let your whole team do a 4v5 while you sit at the back watching, and then somehow assume you're going to miraculously clean up 3 people?

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

No way on Earth will GP two-shot or even 3 shot an Annie, since they usually get Rylai's and RoA, 3k hp.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Like I said, it's better to build tanky and be able to be there for most of the fight so you can actually deal some damage to the people who matter rather than going full glass cannon and letting your team 4v5 and then attempt to clean up, which usually doesn't even work vs. a slightly coordinated team.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

And what the fuck happens when enemy team initiates on your team? What if an ashe arrow hits your malz.

Do you just run away like a pussy expecting your team to win a 4v5 then come back to the lower hp enemies and try to clean them up or something? By then, your whole team is dead except for you and you're left to defend the nexus against 3-5 relatively high hp champions.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

If you're trying to prove that melee glass cannons are viable you will never be able to.

Ranged glass cannons are just so much better because a good ranged AD carry will be able to have good positioning during teamfights and not get caught up in all the aoe shitstorm raging upon their team.[/QUOTE]

Hanging back while your TANK takes the hits then going in after that isn't a dumb move, and isn't the same as letting your team do a 4v5 and trying to clean up afterwords. GP is an opportunistic shot to begin with, not a front line fighter.

Also 3k hp doesn't mean shit if she has no armor, a good GP build with anti tank (not even a glass cannon stacking damage in place of armor pen) will crit unarmored for 1200-1500 and armored for 500-900 (And would have ~51% crit min). With parrley on a 3 second cooldown due to CDR boots & blue that's massive damage in a stupidly short amount of time.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Prism;32058377]But how can you dunk people then???[/QUOTE]

Thanks, now I have to try slamdunk GP :v:

[Daniellynet]

[QUOTE=Banned?;32058176]*opens up LoL launcher*
*gets to login screen*
"Mmmmmm...nah."
*closes login screen and sits around doing nothing*[/QUOTE]
I get that sometimes, heh..
Doing group homework atm. Want to play with my skins. :(
GG mom, need to water her flowers too, takes ~20-30 min. FUCK SAKE.

[Fire]

[url]http://redd.it/k1dfn[/url]

now I wait for no-one to bite :suicide:

Edit: The forum was giving a 404 on this thread, so I force posted and it fixed everything

v:v:v

[Simples]

This gonna be good. 2 randoms, 1 afk. The afker said in champ select "OMG my mum tell me i gotta go!! some1 leavee plsss!"

[Fire]

-snip-

[Tyhap]

Enemy Team - Soraka mid,heimer solotop,bot nasus and fiddle.Soraka drew first blood and now we are losing.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Dragonblz;32058507]Hanging back while your TANK takes the hits then going in after that isn't a dumb move, and isn't the same as letting your team do a 4v5 and trying to clean up afterwords. GP is an opportunistic shot to begin with, not a front line fighter.

Also 3k hp doesn't mean shit if she has no armor, a good GP build with anti tank (not even a glass cannon stacking damage in place of armor pen) will crit unarmored for 1200-1500 and armored for 500-900 (And would have ~51% crit min). With parrley on a 3 second cooldown due to CDR boots & blue that's massive damage in a stupidly short amount of time.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Thanks, now I have to try slamdunk GP :v:[/QUOTE]

Didn't answer any of my questions.

Also, critting for 1200 means you have over 450 AD.
Critting 1500 means you have more than 700 AD.

Yeah ok.

Hanging at the back means you ONLY parley.
That is fucking pitiful DPS.

[acfan]

[QUOTE=TyHap;32058705]Enemy Team - Soraka mid,heimer solotop,bot nasus and fiddle.Soraka drew first blood and now we are losing.[/QUOTE]

why in gods name is Nasus not solo top.

[Ninny]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058718]
Also, critting for 1200 means you have over 450 AD.
Critting 1500 means you have more than 700 AD.
[/QUOTE]

sheen/triforce and crit damage runes

[Fire]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058718]Didn't answer any of my questions.

Also, critting for 1200 means you have over 450 AD.
Critting 1500 means you have more than 700 AD.

Yeah ok.

Hanging at the back means you ONLY parley.
That is fucking pitiful DPS.[/QUOTE]

Sheen/triforce and crit runes

edit: HOLY FUCK WHAT A NINJA, A+,

here, have a winner

[Flubadoo]

Realistically, your base damage on parley is around 360 raw damage. (not including crits).
With 50% crit you'll have an average of 540 damage.

Who the fuck gives blue to GP...

So 540 damage per 5 seconds (CDR boots) means 108 damage per second. Yeah ok sure.
To truly get decent DPS you have to go into melee range. What the fuck do you think "getting into melee range" implies?

It means taking an assload of focus and an assload of residual aoe damage.

Relying on your parley to deal DPS is fucking stupid, because a parley basically is an autoattack crit for 260 extra damage every 5 seconds. A ranged carry just needs two autoattacks to beat it.

If GP is not a front line fighter, what the fuck is he? He's a melee. You can't rely on Parley to deal DPS, just to add DPS and to poke.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Triforce adds approximately 160 damage more.

So no, you're still wrong.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Realistically with 300 AD it'll be hitting for 1k MAX INCLUDING TRIFORCE PROC.

And I don't think you know what BASE ARMOR GAIN is.
Base armor will usually be around 60-80.

That's enough for around a 30-35% damage reduction which reduces it further to around 700 damage.
Then a single chain vest reduces it to 500.

[spanaren]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058794]Realistically, your base damage on parley is around 360 raw damage. (not including crits).
With 50% crit you'll have an average of 540 damage.

Who the fuck gives blue to GP...

So 540 damage per 5 seconds (CDR boots) means 108 damage per second. Yeah ok sure.
To truly get decent DPS you have to go into melee range. What the fuck do you think "getting into melee range" implies?

It means taking an assload of focus and an assload of residual aoe damage.

Relying on your parley to deal DPS is fucking stupid, because a parley basically is an autoattack crit for 260 extra damage every 5 seconds. A ranged carry just needs two autoattacks to beat it.

If GP is not a front line fighter, what the fuck is he? He's a melee. You can't rely on Parley to deal DPS, just to add DPS and to poke.

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

Triforce adds approximately 160 damage more.

So no, you're still wrong.[/QUOTE]
yes but if you run in and get instagibbed you do 0 DPS
does that sound better to you?

[Ninny]

with IE, triforce and critdamage runes you can get 1000 damage crits easily

and if you know what the fuck you're doing actually getting up close to someone even in the most intense gangfights IS possible, only a few hits is usually enough to take down a carry

i've played a shitload of GP trust me im pro

[Fire]

one does not give blue to GP, GP takes it (ideally from enemy or enemy jungle)
CDR runes + cdr boots gets your parrley a noticeable amount lower

540 damage isn't taking your AD into account at all, or your sheen

if you want to be frontline GP then you aren't building glass cannon GP and shouldn't be using CDR boots anyway (get aspeed boots, shred people, don't bother with a sheen either, get more crit, probably a cloak and dagger for tenacity)

oh god theorycrafting :suicide:

[Flubadoo]

I think you can try to work this out yourself.

340(+1.5 AD) per 5 seconds. (Trinity force Proc + 50% crit chance)

or

1.5 AD per 0.75 seconds. (50% crit chance with 1.5 AS)

It's pretty fucking obvious which has more DPS.
If you're trying to say "gp is not a front line fighter" you are terribly wrong because then you are implying that his autoattacks are ranged, which they fucking aren't, which means this:

[b]YOU HAVE TO RUN UP TO THE ENEMY TO DEAL MOST OF YOUR DPS[/b]

[editline]1st September 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=spanaren;32058843]yes but if you run in and get instagibbed you do 0 DPS
does that sound better to you?[/QUOTE]

What the fuck are you smoking, I'm arguing for that...

[Banned?]

[QUOTE=Daniellynet;32058530]I get that sometimes, heh..
Doing group homework atm. Want to play with my skins. :(
GG mom, need to water her flowers too, takes ~20-30 min. FUCK SAKE.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I just finished Portal 2. Great ending. Dunno what I'm going to play next though.

[Ninny]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32058902]I think you can try to work this out yourself.

340(+1.5 AD) per 5 seconds. (Trinity force Proc + 50% crit chance)

or

1.5 AD per 0.75 seconds. (50% crit chance with 1.5 AS)

It's pretty fucking obvious which has more DPS.
If you're trying to say "gp is not a front line fighter" you are terribly wrong because then you are implying that his autoattacks are ranged, which they fucking aren't, which means this:

[b]YOU HAVE TO RUN UP TO THE ENEMY TO DEAL MOST OF YOUR DPS[/b]
[/QUOTE]

well.. so?

parley is still enough to win your lane with crit runes imo

and calm down holy shit