Er... it's also visually beautiful, has large-scale social context, and caters equally to intellect and thirst for grief.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Just reinforce your butthole for the first month.
[QUOTE=scout1;32464404]Do you like spreadsheets?[/QUOTE]
I used to work with excel sheets most days of the week, so I'm used to them.
But any tips for a newbie?
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32464160]More of a guy who likes to get a job done, get paid and get out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shepherd Book]A captain's goal was simple: find a crew, find a job, keep flying.[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't happen to be named Malcolm Reynolds would you?
No, but I am a browncoat! Screw the Alliance.
How is it we always seem to find ourselves in and Alliance friendly bar just mindin' our own business come Unification day? Seriously though join "Facepunch Chat" and try to find a corp as soon as possible. EVE can get unbearably boring if you try to play by yourself.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32465777]I used to work with excel sheets most days of the week, so I'm used to them.
But any tips for a newbie?[/QUOTE]
Be careful of boxing yourself in to a mining-only career if you invest your skills into front-line mining. It tends to be awesome for a few weeks, maybe a few months, then you want to try something new and your skills don't have any application.
I would suggest if you want to do market/industry stuff, do that. Train market skills and learn about investing. Get into production and build things. These skills scale very well as you get more experienced in the game, whereas mining skills tend to deadend.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Also, SOUP:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827XIkzvK-A[/media]
Really I want to find a middle ground transporting cargo and mining. I enjoy playing passively.
Interface is awkward to grasp since it differs from many other space rts type games, but I'm getting the hang of it. A 1024x768 screen doesn't help the matter.
I'm Marissa Niavar in FP Chat.
[QUOTE=Bulaba0;32466529]Be careful of boxing yourself in to a mining-only career if you invest your skills into front-line mining. It tends to be awesome for a few weeks, maybe a few months, then you want to try something new and your skills don't have any application.
I would suggest if you want to do market/industry stuff, do that. Train market skills and learn about investing. Get into production and build things. These skills scale very well as you get more experienced in the game, whereas mining skills tend to deadend.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Also, SOUP:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827XIkzvK-A[/media][/QUOTE]
Fucking waffles. How the hell can they muster 30-man fleets now. Back in the day a 15 man fleet was considered large and organized.
Also, ogod caracals. Whos's the dictor pilots there?
Hatred, if I were you I would just do missioning right off the bat. Once you have enough money from that buy a character with better skills and sell your current character. Starting EVE now sucks because you're so far behind in skills it's better to just make some isk and then buy a higher SP character.
[QUOTE=gangsta;32472807]Fucking waffles. How the hell can they muster 30-man fleets now. Back in the day a 15 man fleet was considered large and organized.
Also, ogod caracals. Whos's the dictor pilots there?
Hatred, if I were you I would just do missioning right off the bat. Once you have enough money from that buy a character with better skills and sell your current character. Starting EVE now sucks because you're so far behind in skills it's better to just make some isk and then buy a higher SP character.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind spending ages levelling up. Just so long as there is always something clear for me to do. Currently doing the mining training missions. Got a tormentor ship now too. Mining seems fairly straight forward so far.
Not a fan of the interface but I'm sure it'll grow on me.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32472860]I don't mind spending ages levelling up. Just so long as there is always something clear for me to do. Currently doing the mining training missions. Got a tormentor ship now too. Mining seems fairly straight forward so far.
Not a fan of the interface but I'm sure it'll grow on me.[/QUOTE]
Just going to warn you now, mining gets insanely boring and useless later on. If that's what you want to do then go for it I guess. If I was still subbed I would throw you some isk to get you going. I'm sure someone here will help you out (spam Bulaba).
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32472860]I don't mind spending ages levelling up. Just so long as there is always something clear for me to do. Currently doing the mining training missions. Got a tormentor ship now too. Mining seems fairly straight forward so far.[/QUOTE]
I strongly urge you to reconsider mining. It makes the worst isk of any money making activity in the game, and the skills to do it do not translate to anything else. It's a dead end.
I mined for a solid 6 months when I first started; the only good thing to come of it was training for an Orca, and only then because I use it as a hauler (Orca with a mwd warps in 10 seconds, p. sweet). Most new players don't want to be told that, I get it, they want to figure things out for themselves. But those of us who are pushing you away from mining are doing it with good reason, you will come to the same conclusion eventually: mining sucks.
[QUOTE=sanitarium.;32474607]I mined for a solid 6 months when I first started; the only good thing to come of it was training for an Orca, and only then because I use it as a hauler (Orca with a mwd warps in 10 seconds, p. sweet).[/QUOTE]
Well since I want to do hauling isn't that a good thing?
I ask because I don't want to bury myself into heavy stuff. I prefer to be doing things for my money, but I want to avoid combat wherever possible. I'd rather haul goods from system to system than selling stuff on the market.
Also my character:
[img]http://ft.fckitupload.com/BHVs/Marissa.PNG[/img]
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32474860]Well since I want to do hauling isn't that a good thing?
I ask because I don't want to bury myself into heavy stuff. I prefer to be doing things for my money, but I want to avoid combat wherever possible. I'd rather haul goods from system to system than selling stuff on the market.[/QUOTE]
The Orca is not the kind of ship you train for if you just want a hauler, since you need mining skills to get it. You would be better off training for a T2 industrial and eventually a freighter if you want to get into "serious" hauling, which I suppose you could do in the form of running courier contracts.
But running them full time? You need to get lucky with high payouts or be willing to scam if you want to make any money just running couriers. If you're looking to maximize profit, you need to be trading as well. While you're running things to and from stations, you should have buy/sell orders on the market so you're always moving product, not just doing courier contracts.
New guy: you can't viably start and play EVE online without any starting capital and hope to not get into any combat (PvE or PvP), not if you don't want to waste months of skillpoints and time
[QUOTE=sanitarium.;32475217]The Orca is not the kind of ship you train for if you just want a hauler, since you need mining skills to get it. You would be better off training for a T2 industrial and eventually a freighter if you want to get into "serious" hauling, which I suppose you could do in the form of running courier contracts.
But running them full time? You need to get lucky with high payouts or be willing to scam if you want to make any money just running couriers. If you're looking to maximize profit, you need to be trading as well. While you're running things to and from stations, you should have buy/sell orders on the market so you're always moving product, not just doing courier contracts.[/QUOTE]
Orca has one thing that no other ship (other than the Rorqual) has though:
The unscannable and undroppable corporate hangar.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;32475811]Orca has one thing that no other ship (other than the Rorqual) has though:
The unscannable and undroppable corporate hangar.[/QUOTE]
Mind translating for a new guy?
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32475963]Mind translating for a new guy?[/QUOTE]
The corporate hangar on an Orca can hold 40,000 m3 of cargo, and whatever is there does not show up on cargo scans and it does not drop as loot if the Orca is destroyed.
[QUOTE=sanitarium.;32476235]The corporate hangar on an Orca can hold 40,000 m3 of cargo, and whatever is there does not show up on cargo scans and it does not drop as loot if the Orca is destroyed.[/QUOTE]
So it would be good for illegitimate cargoes but the fact it's not scannable would also promote it as a target?
I can see what your idea of having fun in EVE would be to transport stuff from system to system, but to be completely honest there's little to no money in doing that. 95% of courier contracts are a huge waste of time with crappy payout. Just warning you now.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32476324]So it would be good for illegitimate cargoes but the fact it's not scannable would also promote it as a target?[/QUOTE]
No, it's good for secretly transporting expensive things. If you have a bunch of original BPs, implants, PLEXs, deadspace mods, etc that you want to move, an Orca is good because you can stick the items in your corp hangar and no one would know you're carrying them (in other words, you're less likely to be suicide ganked).
[QUOTE=gangsta;32476635]I can see what your idea of having fun in EVE would be to transport stuff from system to system, but to be completely honest there's little to no money in doing that. 95% of courier contracts are a huge waste of time with crappy payout. Just warning you now.[/QUOTE]
After getting my first freighter:
1st jump: Oh this is so awesome.
2nd jump: Look at the way the hull shines in the starlight!
3rd jump: Wow that was a long warp.
12th jump: KILL ME PLEASE.
[QUOTE=Bulaba0;32476737]After getting my first freighter:
1st jump: Oh this is so awesome.
2nd jump: Look at the way the hull shines in the starlight!
3rd jump: Wow that was a long warp.
12th jump: KILL ME PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget all of the "Hey can you move my shit here please?" and "MOVE MY SHIT FOR FREE NOW BITCH!" from corp mates and others.
PS. Thank's for always moving my shit around Bulaba. :)
[QUOTE=gangsta;32477018]Don't forget all of the "Hey can you move my shit here please?" and "MOVE MY SHIT FOR FREE NOW BITCH!" from corp mates and others.
PS. Thank's for always moving my shit around Bulaba. :)[/QUOTE]
Now you know why I sold that character :P
I'm the sort of lackey who wouldn't mind doing that for corp mates.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32477194]I'm the sort of lackey who wouldn't mind doing that for corp mates.[/QUOTE]
When you see how slow freighters move (both aligning and in warp), you will start to mind it.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32477194]I'm the sort of lackey who wouldn't mind doing that for corp mates.[/QUOTE]
I'm so confused as to how you still want to do that when practically everyone in the thread is telling you that you will regret it. If that's what you really want to do go right ahead but as everyone here is saying, you WILL regret it down the line. It's extremely boring and not rewarding in the least.
Also, your title in said corp will most likely be "Corp Bitch". :P
I don't know. I was the one who freighted in all of the POS fuel for my corp mates to the nearest .5 system to our wormhole. They're very grateful.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4yJHd87UM]Freighter Flight Preview[/url]
Imagine that x30 jumps.
[QUOTE=Bulaba0;32466529]Be careful of boxing yourself in to a mining-only career if you invest your skills into front-line mining. It tends to be awesome for a few weeks, maybe a few months, then you want to try something new and your skills don't have any application.
I would suggest if you want to do market/industry stuff, do that. Train market skills and learn about investing. Get into production and build things. These skills scale very well as you get more experienced in the game, whereas mining skills tend to deadend.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Also, SOUP:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827XIkzvK-A[/media][/QUOTE]
Is there a KM for this?
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