The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim V5: But there is one they fear - Dragon porn!
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Oblivion and Morrowind were both good games now shush
[QUOTE=Rigged237;33041626]come on man you can't even name some of those people. I only recognize oreyn because he gives you that awesome helmet from Morrowind (the superior game).[/QUOTE]
Obviously you haven't played the game that much then. I can pretty much remember every single one of those characters.
[QUOTE=MoarToast;33041633]The whole "Morrowind vs. Oblivion" thing is extremely subjective and I don't really know why everyone still argues about it. They both had their fair share of massive flaws that dragged the games down a fuckton, and they both had a lot of very good parts that made them so critically acclaimed to begin with. And contrary to popular belief, both Oblivion and Morrowind had terrible animations and writing that varied from godawful to pretty decent for a video game to loads of other things, so it boils down to which one is subjectively better rather than objectively.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, can't we just stop whining at each other? It's all a matter of opinion, and if there's anything I've learned from my years on gaming forums is that people will never concede anything, ever.
Both MW and OB had plenty of interesting characters, just in different ways. Many of Morrowind's characters/locations felt really foreign and mystical, so characters like Divayth Fyr were interesting for how much you [I]didn't[/I] know about them.
Oblivion's characters were interesting on a more grounded level, I think.
[QUOTE=spekter;33041655]Obviously you haven't played the game that much then. I can pretty much remember every single one of those characters.[/QUOTE]
If they were memorable I wouldn't have had to play much. I beat Oblivion and all the guild quests fyi
[QUOTE=Rigged237;33041392]and Oblivion wasn't? Except in Oblivion you have a compass that points you to x and a fast travel to get you there instantly. Also, everyone had the same voice. I'd rather read the same line of text than hear it read by the same whiny gay elf voice over and over again.
checkmate :cool:[/QUOTE]
I never used fast travel in Oblivion, because it's not mandatory.
[QUOTE=MoarToast;33041633]The whole "Morrowind vs. Oblivion" thing is extremely subjective and I don't really know why everyone still argues about it. They both had their fair share of massive flaws that dragged the games down a fuckton, and they both had a lot of very good parts that made them so critically acclaimed to begin with. And contrary to popular belief, both Oblivion and Morrowind had terrible animations and writing that varied from godawful to pretty decent for a video game to loads of other things, so it boils down to which one is subjectively better rather than objectively.
And for once I have to agree with Generic.Monk, how the fuck was even half of that list lies. A lot of it is sensationalized, yeah, but just about every developer ever has done that to hype their game up more, and most sensible people take that kind of thing with a grain of salt regarding any game at all. Most of the stuff on that list is true, and yeah, the graphics were pretty much the same on consoles and on PC because the consoles in question were still pretty damn recent, so there was no point in making better textures for PC at the time.[/QUOTE]
I just post this from now on:
[url]http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=142[/url]
Most balanced review on the internet considering the site.
[QUOTE=Rigged237;33041683]If they were memorable I wouldn't have had to play much. I beat Oblivion and all the guild quests fyi[/QUOTE]
Well you must have glazed over everything then because I haven't know anyone to completely forget the Dark Brotherhood, especially no Lucian.
I would say M'aiq but he doesn't really count.
[QUOTE=Rigged237;33041683]If they were memorable I wouldn't have had to play much. I beat Oblivion and all the guild quests fyi[/QUOTE]
shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up
Hey look, remember that game coming out in less than two weeks called skyrim? CHrist, I watched a video of it and it looked terrible. Let's all talk about it. Doesn't it look shit? I saw a guy's arm clip through his fucking armour, christ. Then I saw some compression artifacts. Now it could have been that I was watching it at 240p on youtube fullscreen on a 50inch TV but there's always the possibility that it's in the game.
I hear they lied about the game too. They said that there would be axes, but the only axe that I've seen is a bearded axe, which really puts a dampener on my expectations for the game.
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041725]I just post this from now on:
[url]http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=142[/url]
Most balanced review on the internet considering the site.[/QUOTE]
please stop
[QUOTE=spekter;33041736]Well you must have glazed over everything then because I haven't know anyone to completely forget the Dark Brotherhood, especially no Lucian.[/QUOTE]
Well I was never a big fan of Dark Brotherhood so I only played that questline once, but yeah Lucien is cool.
There was Falanu the necrophiliac barkeep.
Any more links for the leaked gameplay?
Something funny I noticed is the huge difference between people who prefer Morrowind and people who prefer Oblivion.
One constantly whines about how THEIR game is superior and drowns the next one widely and how Oblivion is a wide piece of casual shit, while the other just says Oblivion is as good as Morrowind, without admitting or even implying it was actually completely superior to TeS III.
Seriously, if Oblivion was such a piece of shit no one would talk about it and no one would still be playing it - to this day, a lot of people still play Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion on a regular basis and keep modding them (especially Oblivion because the SDK was much more accessible in my opinion) and that's for a reason - no game surpasses the previous one, they all have their qualities and defects.
Stating the game you prefer somewhat has everything better made than another one is a proof of your own blindness and stupidity - they all have their weaknesses and strengths. Personally, I prefer Oblivion over Morrowind because it was less a "true" RPG with entirely stat based combat and had more interactivity, with all the voiced dialogue and characters that in my very own opinion were more interesting because, well, they would actually talk. All of them would, not only a few important characters that were easily spotted because they had a voice actor for every line they uttered.
Morrowind was more about stats and skills - you couldn't block on your own, combat was dull and repetitive (Oblivion, without having the best combat system ever, was undeniably more dynamic), everything was based on virtual dice rolls and the pure stats of your character, pretty much exactly like a true board game.
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041725]I just post this from now on:
[url]http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=142[/url]
Most balanced review on the internet considering the site.[/QUOTE]
[quote]
It's far from a failure, since it doesn't really put a foot wrong, it just doesn't set the bar very high. It's a game that was never likely to hold appeal to someone like myself, an armchair designer of the highest order, and someone with a gaming obsession stretching back a couple of decades, but I can see why the immediacy and simplicity of the bread and butter gameplay, as well as the sheer quantity of content does appeal to many people.[/quote]
ho ho ho ho "the game doesn't hold appeal to someone as amazing as me but i can see why it appeals to the inferior lower class"
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;33041762]please stop[/QUOTE]
I know it's RPGCodex, but the review is dead on the money.
[editline]30th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;33041825]ho ho ho ho "the game doesn't hold appeal to someone as amazing as me but i can see why it appeals to the inferior lower class"[/QUOTE]
"He said he doesn't like how simple the game is but can understand why others may like it for that fact but in a way I can interpret to make it seem like he's pretentious, that certainly invalidates the entire review for sure."
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041833]I know it's RPGCodex, but the review is dead on the money.
[editline]30th October 2011[/editline]
"He said he doesn't like how simple the game is but can understand why others may like it for that fact but in a way I can interpret to make it seem like he's pretentious, that certainly invalidates the entire review for sure."[/QUOTE]
"I can't enjoy a game unless it's an idiotic clusterfuck with a terrible UI and shitty gameplay so that means I'm better"
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041833]I know it's RPGCodex, but the review is dead on the money.[/QUOTE]
To you it is.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;33041578]glarthir
vincente valtieri
ocheeva
the other argonian from the DB as well as the orc
lucien lachance
modryn oreyn
mankar camoran
agarmir
the woman who obviously sleeps with the sailors who stay in her inn
the guy in the DB with a grudge agains lachance
etc
I didn't say morrowind had no interesting characters, I said oblivion had interesting characters. Stop being so defensive.[/QUOTE]
Fargoth
Jiub
Vodunius Nuccius
Gaenor
Divayth Fyr
Socucius Ergalla
Sellus Gravius
Caius Cosades
Crassius Curo
Hasphat Antabolis
Ahnassi
Jobasha
Arrille
Foryn Gilnith
Ra'Virr
Hrisskar Flat-Foot
M'Aiq
Yagrum Bagarn
Snowy Gravius
And those are just the ones I could name of the top of my head. There's also the lady who gives you her glove, the plentiful naked nords, the Argonian shirt merchant, the lighthouse keeper in Seyda Neen, the out-of-work actor in Vivec, ...
Morrowind's characters may not have spoken or unique dialogue, but I remember a lot more Morrowind characters than Oblivion characters - and I've played the latter more.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;33040678]Oblivion had it's flaws, but it was still a damn good game.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, Oblivion's flaws gave it character.
Do I complain about the game when I break into someone's house and the man of the house starts mercilessly beating his dogs? No. I think its funny as hell and follow them around the city as he tries to punch their lights out.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33041818]Morrowind was more about stats and skills - you couldn't block on your own, combat was dull and repetitive (Oblivion, without having the best combat system ever, was undeniably more dynamic), everything was based on virtual dice rolls and the pure stats of your character, pretty much exactly like a true board game.[/QUOTE]
but i like that kind of stuff. I like board games and dice rolls. why aren't there more games like that? Why can't Skyrim be like that? Is it too much to just think in a game? Is it too difficult and confusing for people to have stats and skills in a RPG now? I feel like Elderscrolls is sliding into Dragon Age territory. Soon it will be nothing more than twilight caliber fantasy for fanfic writing emo girls and their lonely single mothers. It will become the COD of RPGS
[QUOTE=Gilboron;33041937]Jiub[/QUOTE]
I like Jiub, a lot, but he's not a character.
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041833]"He said he doesn't like how simple the game is but can understand why others may like it for that fact but in a way I can interpret to make it seem like he's pretentious, that certainly invalidates the entire review for sure."[/QUOTE]
If a reviewer writes something pretentious in his own review he pretty much instantly invalidates his entire review because it makes him sound like an annoying douchebag that wants to convert you to his way of seeing things, not actually being as objective as possible.
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;33041894]"I can't enjoy a game unless it's an idiotic clusterfuck with a terrible UI and shitty gameplay so that means I'm better"[/QUOTE]
...I sure hope you're not implying Morrowind had a terrible UI and that I'm just a bad reader.
Damn, I've missed the intro footage.
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041957]I like Jiub, a lot, but he's not a character.[/QUOTE]
Define "character" then :v:
[editline]30th October 2011[/editline]
Wow fuck what's happening to my automerges
[QUOTE=Gilboron;33041964]...I sure hope you're not implying Morrowind had a terrible UI and that I'm just a bad reader.[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying most Morrowind fanboys are that type of person, you know, the 'hurr pc mester rece' type of people. The kind that think The Witcher 2 is the best game ever.
oh wow that video, saul from bsg seems to be in a shitload of RPGs recently
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;33041894]I can't enjoy a game unless it's an idiotic clusterfuck with a terrible UI and shitty gameplay so that means I'm better[/QUOTE]
Well have I got the game for you then!
[QUOTE=Riutet;33041957]I like Jiub, a lot, but he's not a character.[/QUOTE]
but he becomes Saint Juib the one who drives all the cliff racers from vvardenfell
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