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i'd love to buy a couple people skyrim but i should be saving for a car

Now that we are back on the topic of computer specs should i run skyrim well? at least above medium? Intel core 2 duo E8400 3GHz 2GB ram GeForce 8600GT 1GB

I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128588]I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...[/QUOTE] Bethesda games never had that, though I believe Fallout 3 had a multiplayer mod. Maybe in mods you'll see it.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128588]I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...[/QUOTE] Because of balancing issues and too much work. The fact that the AI and quests are all based off of your skills/certain stats of your character is enough to deter even the thought of including it. [editline]5th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;33128612]Bethesda games never had that, though I believe Fallout 3 had a multiplayer mod. Maybe in mods you'll see it.[/QUOTE] Oblivion had one and it was extremely shoddy.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128588]I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...[/QUOTE] It's not the kind of experience I'd want to share with other people.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128588]I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...[/QUOTE] Even local co-op would be okay (if they did it right.)

[QUOTE=spekter;33128618]Because of balancing issues and too much work. The fact that the AI and quests are all based off of your skills/certain stats of your character is enough to deter even the thought of including it. [editline]5th November 2011[/editline] Oblivion had one and it was extremely shoddy.[/QUOTE] Also, you know, I could get all perks in FNV with cheats, max all stats/special points too imagine that in co-op. you could literally tank anyone and anything just by punching it. It wouldn't be that fun really.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128588]I don't see why Skyrim can't have Co-op...[/QUOTE] Because Bethesda makes singleplayer games.

[QUOTE=supersocko;33128632]Even local co-op would be okay (if they did it right.)[/QUOTE] Why do you think its that simple? If you even gave it a slightly in-depth thought you would realize the amount of problems it would create. [editline]5th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;33128657]Also, you know, I could get all perks in FNV with cheats, max all stats/special points too imagine that in co-op. you could literally tank anyone and anything just by punching it. It wouldn't be that fun really.[/QUOTE] Exactly, another area of balance. The fix for that is forcing players of specific level brackets to play with each other, which defeats the purpose because you want to play with friends.

[QUOTE=spekter;33128618]Because of balancing issues and too much work. The fact that the AI and quests are all based off of your skills/certain stats of your character is enough to deter even the thought of including it.[/QUOTE] Couldn't they just base it off of the host of the game? Like, Player A invites Player B as their companion, and the game would just go off of Player A's stats?

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128682]Couldn't they just base it off of the host of the game? Like, Player A invites Player B as their companion, and the game would just go off of Player A's stats?[/QUOTE] Player A is level 32, Player B is level 12. See? Instant flaw. People need to stop being such dreamers about this thing, when given any thought or discussion of the serious kind, these ideas are terrible.

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;33128626]It's not the kind of experience I'd want to share with other people.[/QUOTE] Why? How can having a friend doing stuff with you possibly hurt the experience?

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128682]Couldn't they just base it off of the host of the game? Like, Player A invites Player B as their companion, and the game would just go off of Player A's stats?[/QUOTE] The issue of that is the game is specifically made to be SP, making it multiplayer means a good overhaul on it. Though, JC2, Oblivion, FA3 had it... still. [QUOTE=Teh Zip File;33128702]Why? How can having a friend doing stuff with you possibly hurt the experience?[/QUOTE] I played FNV hardcore mode with insane weight rebalance, bleed out, damage increases for all guns, ultra realism. I'm going to try the same with Skyrim. I don't think anyone would enjoy playing it my way. It'd be fun though.

[QUOTE=coolmzn222;33128431]and more IGN idiocy [url]http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1196353p1.html[/url][/QUOTE] Meh, everything is fixable on the PC version of Skyrim [sp] even though in my opinion it's false [/sp] because of modding. :v:.

[QUOTE=spekter;33128696]Player A is level 32, Player B is level 12. See? Instant flaw. People need to stop being such dreamers about this thing, when given any thought or discussion of the serious kind, these ideas are terrible.[/QUOTE] So then use the average.

[QUOTE=spekter;33128696]Player A is level 32, Player B is level 12. See? Instant flaw. People need to stop being such dreamers about this thing, when given any thought or discussion of the serious kind, these ideas are terrible.[/QUOTE] Then restrict the available quests for the level 32? If Player B hasn't done so-and-so quest, it should tell Player A that Player B has not finished that certain quest yet.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;33128727]So then use the average.[/QUOTE] Player A isn't going to want to fight lesser things than what he/she is used to. Bethesda specifically work on these games to have very personal experiences and they've crafted the games as such to hammer that in. Work on MP at this point would be a cluster fuck. You would have to put too much work into something that's not guaranteed to work not to mention you detract from the SP production time. [editline]5th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=slayer20;33128737]Then restrict the available quests for the level 32? If Player B hasn't done so-and-so quest, it should tell Player A that Player B has not finished that certain quest yet.[/QUOTE] Restricting a players access to content, yeah that's really gonna go down well isn't it?

[QUOTE=spekter;33128759]Player A isn't going to want to fight lesser things than what he/she is used to. Bethesda specifically work on these games to have very personal experiences and they've crafted the games as such to hammer that in. Work on MP at this point would be a cluster fuck. You would have to put too much work into something that's not guaranteed to work not to mention you detract from the SP production time.[/QUOTE] If Player A doesn't want to fight lesser monsters because Player B is a low level, then don't invite Player B? The whole idea of playing co-op with someone is the fact that you want to play with them, regardless of what level or rank they are.

plus if they add MP and it sucks they get a shot reputation and it would suck, like spek said, they're hand crafted to be purely for one.

[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;33128702]Why? How can having a friend doing stuff with you possibly hurt the experience?[/QUOTE] I like to be able to be in control of my own experience and not having the chance of having a friend screw stuff up in this kind of game.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128789]If Player A doesn't want to fight lesser monsters because Player B is a low level, then don't invite Player B? The whole idea of playing co-op with someone is the fact that you want to play with them, regardless of what level or rank they are.[/QUOTE] Player B is Player A's best buddy ever and they really wanna COOP but Player A is going to have a shitty time due to that system. Not to mention Player A is going to shit all over the enemies. It would be like having a god companion tougher than you stealing all your experience and loot.

[QUOTE=slayer20;33128737]Then restrict the available quests for the level 32? If Player B hasn't done so-and-so quest, it should tell Player A that Player B has not finished that certain quest yet.[/QUOTE] Coding a co-op capable game is an extremely different task than a singleplayer only game. Bethesda have chosen to make skyrim and the other ES games singleplayer. IMO, keeping it singleplayer is the best move. It lets them focus much more on the story and experience, rather than balancing for multiplayer and working on such mechanics.

You could just have a single player character and a co-op character. I did that with dead island

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;33128810]I like to be able to be in control of my own experience and not having the chance of having a friend screw stuff up in this kind of game.[/QUOTE] So don't play coop if they added it? There are a lot better games to add coop to than TES games... but coop in them would be cool too.

[QUOTE=ryfry99;33128850]You could just have a single player character and a co-op character. I did that with dead island[/QUOTE] What would that achieve? You've still got the whole levelling problem to deal with.

[QUOTE=spekter;33128818]Player B is Player A's best buddy ever and they really wanna COOP but Player A is going to have a shitty time due to that system. Not to mention Player A is going to shit all over the enemies. It would be like having a god companion tougher than you stealing all your experience and loot.[/QUOTE] or one of the players gets the "lulz' and cheats for max stats and perks and everything, then plays with him, and nukes everything in sight,

[QUOTE=spekter;33128818]Player B is Player A's best buddy ever and they really wanna COOP but Player A is going to have a shitty time due to that system. Not to mention Player A is going to shit all over the enemies. It would be like having a god companion tougher than you stealing all your experience and loot.[/QUOTE] They could, you know... only play with each other in the first place? That argument can apply to every single coop RPG game ever.

just get a mod if you want MP

I've yet to see a thread about a single-player game that doesn't have a debate over the addition of co-op or multiplayer, why does everyone suddenly find the need to include it in everything?

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