The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim V5: But there is one they fear - Dragon porn!

[Rigged237]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;33165779]HOLY SHIT GUYS, WE HAVE A SEER ON OUR HANDS.

A SEER THAT HAS ALREADY PLAYED THE GAME, NOT JUST JUDGING IT ON IT'S GRAPHICS.[/QUOTE]

goddamn watch the streams its not hard to see how the game plays

[Dragory]

Alright, stop. If you think TES games after Morrowind are mediocre, great, good for you, but everyone doesn't. I think Oblivion is bloody fucking awesome, probably my favourite game ever. And your reaction to this? "Ahaha that guy must have a shitty taste".

And now you've gotten to the heart of the problem: taste. I think the combat looks great. I think the graphics look good enough. I think the aesthetics and the atmosphere are more than good. You disagree? No can do. But stop trying to prove our opinions wrong like you'd be always right.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;33165828]Naysayers are trying to convince us to cancel our pre-orders, not sure why, since it benefits their fucking economy...[/QUOTE]
my pre-order was 10 bucks, I only placed it so I would get the game on release date. Pay the rest off when I pick it up, why would I cancel it at all?

[HubmaN]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;33165828]Naysayers are trying to convince us to cancel our pre-orders, not sure why, since it benefits their fucking economy...[/QUOTE]

You're allowed to have an opinion that's more subtle than "buy-or-don't-buy".

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Rigged237;33165830]goddamn watch the streams its not hard to see how the game plays[/QUOTE]
Because watching a game is equal to actually playing it, right. You obviously never had friends growing up, most boring part of going to someones house and watching them play a game that you found incredibly fun. They always made it look boring. Skyrim will be what you make it, just like oblivion, everyone plays it differently even if the gameplay mechanics are the same, and everyone will enjoy it for different reasons. If you don't enjoy it, well tough fucking luck, stop being so self entitled man

edit: good example is the older gta games, shit animations, models, textures etc (they looked good at the time, yes, but even those weren't the best graphics of their time), shitty controls to an extent. But fuck me are they fun to play to this day, watching someone else play it always looks boring and not so good, the fun comes when you pick up the controller, or place your hands on your mouse and keyboard, and actually start exploring the world and playing the fuck out of it yourself

GTA IV was fucking BORING to watch someone else play, especially when they drive around, but it felt so much better actually playing it yourself. I mean seriously, how can you judge how fun something will be without even playing it yourself? streams are not indicative of fun factor man, and that's what it'll be about, not graphics, not animations, but the amount of fun you actually have with it yourself

[Hellborg 65]

What's wrong with the UI? I think it looks brilliant.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Hellborg 65;33165851]What's wrong with the UI? I think it looks brilliant.[/QUOTE]
it's fine for a console, but I can't imagine using it on the PC.. hopefully the pc UI, even if it looks the same, is more intuitive for mouse navigation rather than being shoddily ported from the xbox control scheme etc.

[G-Strogg]

TES rpg's aren't like other RPG's.

In the manual to Daggerfall, where most other games have an introduction, Todd had written "When players ask what the story to Daggerfall is, I imagine Macbeth asking what the story to [I]Macbeth[/I] is before the play begins".

Yeah sure, all TES games has a main quest, and obvious boundaries, but it's still VERY different from games such as NWN, Diablo and Witcher.

TES has almost always been more of an action game than those more "traditional" RPG's. The only game to really feature true dice-rolling was Morrowind, with it's combat (and no-one liked that, did they?)

[Zedicus Mann]

ITT: Game sucks, I can tell by the graphics.
On Release: OH GOD IT'S AMAZING

[snivelak]

Graphics =/= Aesthetic. A game can look good and be immersive if the aesthetic is defined. Graphics just improve the technical capabilities of a game. If you were asking me, I would say that games like Psychonauts, Borderlands, Ratchet and Clank, TF2 or even Minecraft are more visually pleasing than, say, Crysis, because they have a definitive style that serves a purpose other than to look real. I mean yeah, Crysis looks impressive but that doesn't really do anything for the game's immersion or style. Skyrim, from what I've seen, has that purposeful aesthetic. Personally I don't think that there is anything besides aesthetic that makes a game look inherently good. Skyrim mightn't be the most technically impressive game, but it doesn't need to be, its style is very much set in stone.

That's just me, though. It's why I'm totally fine with playing games with outdated tech so long as they look good beyond that.

[Sauronvoldemort]

Hey, new graph.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/CdULC.jpg[/img]

[J0E_SpRaY]

This thread makes me want to strangle a baby seal sometimes...
If you don't want to play it, then don't. Simple as that. Now take a Midol and go post in the thread for whatever game it is that gives you a raging erection.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Nibwoddle;33165915]Graphics =/= Aesthetic. A game can look good and be immersive if the aesthetic is defined. Graphics just improve the technical capabilities of a game. If you were asking me, I would say that games like Psychonauts, Borderlands, Ratchet and Clank, TF2 or even Minecraft are more visually pleasing than, say, Crysis, because they have a definitive style that serves a purpose other than to look real. I mean yeah, Crysis looks impressive but that doesn't really do anything for the game's immersion or style. Skyrim, from what I've seen, has that purposeful aesthetic. Personally I don't think that there is anything besides aesthetic that makes a game look inherently good. Skyrim mightn't be the most technically impressive game, but it doesn't need to be, its style is very much set in stone.

That's just me, though. It's why I'm totally fine with playing games with outdated tech so long as they look good beyond that.[/QUOTE]

I personally would have used fallout 3 as an example, it's actually butt ugly when you look at things specifically, but the overall feel is, to me anyway, amazing. I couldn't care less about how low res the textures are or how shit the animations are, I still fucking love that game

[Zedicus Mann]

Actually thinking about it now, but I think we keep worrying about graphics because that's the biggest thing that everybody has seen no matter what by now.
Doesn't matter if you watched gameplay videos or not, you've seen the graphics.

That and we just want to play it.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Rong;33165927]Hey, new graph.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/CdULC.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

that breton looks hot

[snivelak]

[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33165932]I personally would have used fallout 3 as an example, it's actually butt ugly when you look at things specifically, but the overall feel is, to me anyway, amazing. I couldn't care less about how low res the textures are or how shit the animations are, I still fucking love that game[/QUOTE]
I'd put it there too, you're right. Fallout 3 looks as good as it needs to, I don't give a shit about what it technically needs to do, the post-apocalyptic style is carried over to a totally appropriate extent.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Zedicus Mann;33165939]Actually thinking about it now, but I think we keep worrying about graphics because that's the biggest thing that everybody has seen no matter what by now.
Doesn't matter if you watched gameplay videos or not, you've seen the graphics.

That and we just want to play it.[/QUOTE]
no actually, the majority of us aren't worried about the graphics, it's just Rigged237 being a twat and complaining about every little thing, despite not having played the game himself yet.

[J0E_SpRaY]

[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33165945]no actually, the majority of us aren't worried about the graphics, it's just Rigged237 being a twat and complaining about every little thing, despite not having played the game himself yet.[/QUOTE]
Quoting for accuracy.

[Trooper-Guy1]

[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33165945]no actually, the majority of us aren't worried about the graphics, it's just Rigged237 being a twat and complaining about every little thing, despite not having played the game himself yet.[/QUOTE]

Quote ninja'd.

[Zedicus Mann]

[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33165945]no actually, the majority of us aren't worried about the graphics, it's just Rigged237 being a twat and complaining about every little thing, despite not having played the game himself yet.[/QUOTE]
Well my post covers Rigged.
The rest of us are pretty cool.

[Wnd]

I hope they have different inventory navigation on PC

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Wnd;33165973]I hope they have different inventory navigation on PC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I like the inventory, but just can't imagine navigating it with a mouse at the moment, hopefully they set it up nicely on the PC to be very mouse friendly

[Zedicus Mann]

[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33165982]Yeah, I like the inventory, but just can't imagine navigating it with a mouse at the moment, hopefully they set it up nicely on the PC to be very mouse friendly[/QUOTE]
If not, DarnifiedUI again?

[J0E_SpRaY]

[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;33165963]Quote ninja'd.[/QUOTE]
All your post are belong to me.

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Zedicus Mann;33165999]If not, DarnifiedUI again?[/QUOTE]

I'll probably get darnifiedUI when they make one for skyrim either way; it always adds nice improvements regardless of how good or bad the base UI is

[Trooper-Guy1]

[QUOTE=Zedicus Mann;33165999]If not, DarnifiedUI again?[/QUOTE]

Possibly. We'll just have to see how well layed out the vanilla one will be.

[QUOTE=J0E_SpRaY;33166011]All your post are belong to me.[/QUOTE]

With our posts combined we're 2415!

[Flubadoo]

I wanna see if there's any of those total conversion mods, but I hope that it won't be harder than rocket science to install (FCOM!).

Hopefully they changed how the game works so we don't have to mess with load order.

[Rellow]

i doubt bethesda changed the inventory for pc at all

they haven't done it for any of their previous games, so why would they now?

[Inzalonus]

[QUOTE=Rellow;33166029]i doubt bethesda changed the inventory at all

they haven't done it for any of their previous games, so why would they now?[/QUOTE]
because todd howard said the pc version of the UI will be much more pc friendly than in previous games, but as I said, I personally can't imagine how navigating that inventory will work just yet, but i'm sure they've learnt from their mistakes

[Cricket50]

Don't know if this is late but oh my god.
(spoilers)
[video=youtube;icSG1d6W4Ws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icSG1d6W4Ws[/video]