Yes because a normal udyr would be tanky and would survive simple stuns due to tenacity + resistance + health. Most udyrs either go turtle or phoenix (jungle) and both are built pretty damn tanky.
[QUOTE=WTF Nuke;34351820]Yes because a normal udyr would be tanky and would survive simple stuns due to tenacity + resistance + health. Most udyrs either go turtle or phoenix (jungle) and both are built pretty damn tanky.[/QUOTE]
Did I say full AD carry build? Hell no. Just saying that a high crit chance VASTLY improves his damage output with bear and tiger stance. Atma's + Triforce, that's like 40% chance right there
But no why don't you try it instead of bashing it from the start? People used to think wards were bad.
[QUOTE=Megadick;34351844]Did I say full AD carry build? Hell no. Just saying that a high crit chance VASTLY improves his damage output with bear and tiger stance. Atma's + Triforce, that's like 40% chance right there[/QUOTE]
your damage is high enough with only phoenix, getting any damage items other than triforce and wit's is silly..
hell, even a wit's is enough
sometimes you dont have to try things to know that they're a bad idea
although in your case it's not really the worst build idea i've ever heard
If you want to carry a game, build him with critical chance. Crit chance and tiger stance is alot more damage than pheonix. You melt enemies in half a second because you get 2.5 as really fast with trinity, pd, and your passive.
whatever works for you pal im not arguing against it!!!
Okay. Just saying, [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1152043?p=34333738&highlight=#post34333738[/url]
Wit's end and madreds contribute to tankiness, if it becomes a problem sell the phantom dancer for merc's or tabi. If you are facerolling why would you build complete offtank instead of more damage?
Crit udyr implies a full crit build such as IE and PD. Atmas and triforce are both pretty used items on udyr, esp tiger stance udyr, but also on phoenix sometimes. If you articulated yourself better rather than saying "crit udyr so strong", then we wouldn't be bashing you. I wouldn't say atmas + triforce is crit build, but the crit is just a side effect of the items.
Ok, but having wit's end as your sole damage item on udyr is a terrible idea. I find that Guinsoo's works really well with his passive, switch between pheonix and tiger really quickly, you get more than double AS, and the AP benefits your pheonix damage.
Also lee sin: should I get BT BT or BT IE? Selling wriggles for the last item, after I have atmogs. And if I get a FoN should I get BT or IE when selling wriggles? I'm thinking BT to compensate for the lifesteal + more AD.
this is a sustain metagame
so more sustain is always nice
[QUOTE=Megadick;34351955]Ok, but having wit's end as your sole damage item on udyr is a terrible idea. I find that Guinsoo's works really well with his passive, switch between pheonix and tiger really quickly, you get more than double AS, and the AP benefits your pheonix damage.[/QUOTE]
It's not a terrible idea. Phenoix udyr doesn't need items to wreck you up, he is so tanky he just out sustains you and still deals damage due to the added ad and ap from pheonix, as well as 3 hit procs.
if you're going solo top udyr (the best!!) you dont even need wriggles lmao
udyr has so much built in damage in his skills all you need to buy is a wit's end to shit damage practically throughout the whole game.
i never get wriggles on udyr personally, get a spirit visage and you are fucking set.
unless we need to secure dragon then ofc ill get it but yeah.
[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;34351973]this is a sustain metagame
so more sustain is always nice[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know but now that I'm thinking about it I could get IE I would have 43% crit strike and those crits would hit 2.5x, which would always be more than that 20 extra ad I could possible have from BT (however I could have 20 less too). I'll have to run some math one sec.
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Wait who said wriggles udyr?
i was referring to nomadicninja's post
Oh, wait now that I'm thinking when I said if I get FoN and sell wriggles I'd only have one slot when infact I'd have two. Ok, my end builds are going to be: mercs atmas warmogs bt bt ie or mercs atmas warmogs FoN bt ie or mercs atmas warmogs FoN GA bt ie.
anybody wanna do normals or something idk
[QUOTE=Jund;34349854]AD Malz scales more than AD Lux lol
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Oh shit I should try out Hybrid AP/AS Orianna[/QUOTE]
AD Malz is pretty broken, your pet gets all your ad stats so you just ult someone and your pet will destroy them
[QUOTE=Espio;34353114]AD Malz is pretty broken, your pet gets all your ad stats so you just ult someone and your pet will destroy them[/QUOTE]
After it Frenzies, it gets like 3-4 attacks per second...
Dear god.
i feel like such a shitlord
my internet crashed during a normal
no complaints about the games i played today
c:
my friend's mom works for riot so he was giving away riot nasus to his irl frundz C:
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:dance:
whats your friends name i wanna be friends with him so i can get free skins and shit
noe, hes gonna kiill me if i give away his naem
also his mum might lose her jorb at riot if I do :C
league of bad
gibe name pls
oh no me and nova got 3 brs gg 20 minute surrender /wrists
I wish there was a surrender button at champ select
cant you just qd
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