well the whole concept of kassadin in lane is that he can flash up and silence + w for some burst
if he can't do that then he can't do much at all
and without his mobility he would be shit, even if you managed to get 1 kill first in a teamfight, you'd have to wait another 25 seconds until you can flash and combo again, you'd just make him another boring and generic caster
hell he's not even remotely close to op enough to warrant those nerfs
give morganas spell shield a similar thing to cast like kassadins stacks to vomit, she no more op?
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Me and Blueplastic had only good scores against Acer on ESL. Was pretty fun tho.
best yi build?
4 dorans what the christ
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[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34448372]best yi build?[/QUOTE]
dunkmaster
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;34448346]well the whole concept of kassadin in lane is that he can flash up and silence + w for some burst
if he can't do that then he can't do much at all
and without his mobility he would be shit, even if you managed to get 1 kill first in a teamfight, you'd have to wait another 25 seconds until you can flash and combo again, you'd just make him another boring and generic caster
hell he's not even remotely close to op enough to warrant those nerfs[/QUOTE]
With damage increases or with what TheForeigner said
Kass would be able to pump out the same damage but in more spread out timeline.
He still has mobility but not so that he can fucking teleport every 4 seconds.
In teamfights you can get your ult back up 5 times if your team kills all of the enemies.
Oh not OP? rofl
Kassadin outlanes almost all mages and his ganks are just ridiculous
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[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;34448394]With damage increases or with what TheForeigner said
Kass would be able to pump out the same damage but in more spread out timeline.
He still has mobility but not so that he can fucking teleport every 4 seconds.
In teamfights you can get your ult back up 5 times if your team kills all of the enemies.
Oh not OP? rofl
Kassadin outlanes almost all mages and his ganks are just ridiculous[/QUOTE]
leblanc outlanes almost everyone in the game
kass can be counterpicked so easily
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;34448352]give morganas spell shield a similar thing to cast like kassadins stacks to vomit, she no more op?[/QUOTE]
Wouldnt work with the same amount of stacks as Kass atleast.
Kass spams more with his ult alone that Morg with QW.
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[QUOTE=Opacity;34448412]leblanc outlanes almost everyone in the game
kass can be counterpicked so easily[/QUOTE]
Leblanc also falls horridly late game whereas kass doesnt
[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;34448394]
Kassadin [b]outlanes almost all mages[/b][/QUOTE]
that's why he's called
wait for it
AN ANTI MAGE
yaaaay
that's why you send someone who's not a mage against him
[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;34448394]With damage increases or with what TheForeigner said
Kass would be able to pump out the same damage but in more spread out timeline.
He still has mobility but not so that he can fucking teleport every 4 seconds.
In teamfights you can get your ult back up 5 times if your team kills all of the enemies.
Oh not OP? rofl
Kassadin outlanes almost all mages and his ganks are just ridiculous[/QUOTE]
then why isn't he picked/banned in any of the current tournament or kiev games?
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he has almost no laning presence pre-6, just a silence, and once that wears off, the incoming load of assrape comes in from cassiopeia or brand
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i mean, he would definitely beat some champions like annie (lmao ashxu u know what im talking about), but he isnt as strong as you make him out to be
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34448432]that's why he's called
wait for it
AN ANTI MAGE
yaaaay
that's why you send someone who's not a mage against him[/QUOTE]
He isnt even a good Anti-Mage without his old W.
By same default you could call Soraka an antimage too.
Galio also counters all mages better than Kass + AD carries with ult.
You can call him LoL's Anti-mage
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[QUOTE=Flubadoo;34448437]then why isn't he picked/banned in any of the current tournament or kiev games?
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he has almost no laning presence pre-6, just a silence, and once that wears off, the incoming load of assrape comes in from cassiopeia or brand[/QUOTE]
Kass can be shut down and countered with a co-operating team.
Im not talking about 2300 elo 5v5 games but normal pub games where he just demolishes.
Swain is an all around good mage but he has no presence pre-6 either without his ult.
Some mages are like that
Most AD carries counter kass, too
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34448509]Most AD carries counter kass, too[/QUOTE]
Thats why you dont first pick Kassadin.
You let the enemy pick a mage first, or if they pick kassadin you go Talon / GP / Morde / Panth etcetc
well which highly used ap carries does kassadin beat then?
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;34448554]well which highly used ap carries does kassadin beat then?[/QUOTE]
Ones who cant sustain or stop Kassadin's harass.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34448432]that's why he's called
wait for it
AN ANTI MAGE
yaaaay
that's why you send someone who's not a mage against him[/QUOTE]
The anti-mage concept is quite shitty IMO.
Only things that actually counter mages is his silence and his passive in some way.
Passive reduces magic dmg by 15%. What a huuuuuuuge amount. /sarcasm. So if I took only magic damage and I would have lived with 15% hp my passive had saved me. And what's up with the "magic damage reduced is converted into attackspeed" thing? It sucks.
Q is an obvious counter to mages, disables their ability to use spells.
The vomit only encourages you to not spam spells when he's around, it isn't a direct counter.
Auto-attack-modifier-thing is shitty design now that you think of it, you shouldn't be autoattacking stuff in the 1st place. "Activate to gain bla amount of your AP in extra magic dmg in your aa's" great, now I just go in and bash people with shitty autoattacks. What would make this spell a good design would be mana-burn mechanic, but Riot_Games.jpg
Blink is there for supporting the concept of "Mages having an escape spell" so he has to have a spell which he can use to keep after them, sadly most of the mages don't have any so it's just imba on him.
Kassadin is a strong champ, but the whole "Anti-mage" design could be better.
remove mana from morg and give her 15-20 stack ability that allows to cast spells, and charges 1 up every 6 seconds or when a spell is cast near her
spell costs:
1 - pool
3 - stun
6 - shield
11 - ult
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What you guys think of the Lee nerf?
first game as morde in forever: their team has baron, they tower dive me 2v5, i get a quadra and the fucking teemo steals my penta :/
we lost too becuase my team was terrible
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;34448620]remove mana from morg and give her 15-20 stack ability that allows to cast spells, and charges 1 up every 6 seconds or when a spell is cast near her
spell costs:
1 - pool
3 - stun
6 - shield
11 - ult[/QUOTE]
if she goes mid someone either has to cast a spell at base first or she needs to dodge a spell just in order to actually deal damage
don't like it.
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;34448620]remove mana from morg and give her 15-20 stack ability that allows to cast spells, and charges 1 up every 6 seconds or when a spell is cast near her
spell costs:
1 - pool
3 - stun
6 - shield
11 - ult[/QUOTE]
why
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;34448646]why[/QUOTE]
make her less strong
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and more interesting
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harder to play*
[QUOTE=papaya;34448645]if she goes mid someone either has to cast a spell at base first or she needs to dodge a spell just in order to actually deal damage
don't like it.[/QUOTE]
1 up every 6 seconds = full stacks by the time minions reach mid?
What's this stream of? And lee sin nerf, no matter how much I love him, he deserves the nerf. Honestly he's too strong even if you build only tank (which you shouldn't). However here's the good news: people will quit playing him, so now I can be OP under the radar.
that'd probably make morg into more of a support role, especially as all her spells relying on this means she can't charge it up herself.
ones that come to mind:
-morg: no
-cass: no
-ahri: op lmao
-karthus: maybe
-brand: depends on how shitty brand is
[QUOTE=KidVenson;34448629]What you guys think of the Lee nerf?[/QUOTE]
He's probably still a solid jungler, I wouldn't worry too much.
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