[QUOTE=DTkach;34070091]Max Q first and E second. You can either: Ignore getting any points in wall to maximize damage, or get one point in early to use for defense/sight/offense purposes. IE putting a wall behind the target of your Q to stop them from avoiding it.[/QUOTE]
no no no wtf
don't max Q first, it's really hard to land and it costs a lot of mana, leveling it up doesn't even increase the stun duration, why would you even do that. max E first because it's your most reliable source of damage.
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
just checked it out, and Q is worse than E in every single aspect, except for the stun
Q does damage twice though, if you make it explode right behind the target.
Max E first on Anivia with 1 point in Q at level 1
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
Stun time doesn't scale on Q, and maxing E first gives you guaranteed burst at 6
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
And the mana upscaling on Q is ridiculous
[QUOTE=joost1120;34070286]Q does damage twice though, if you make it explode right behind the target.[/QUOTE]
it requires decent aiming and prediction to hit already, hitting every single one twice would require [i]godlike[/i] aiming
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34070144]no no no wtf
don't max Q first, it's really hard to land and it costs a lot of mana, leveling it up doesn't even increase the stun duration, why would you even do that. max E first because it's your most reliable source of damage.
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
just checked it out, and Q is worse than E in every single aspect, except for the stun[/QUOTE]
Ok let me amend my statement.
Max E if you suck, max Q if you don't.
[QUOTE=DTkach;34070628]Ok let me amend my statement.
Max E if you suck, max Q if you don't.[/QUOTE]
Yeah wow I can't wait to spend points on a slow moving, unreliable skillshot with huge mana upscaling and little damage over a more reliable nuke
[QUOTE=Protocol7;34067429]everyone thinks kayle is shit and I've seen some FANTASTIC kayles before[/QUOTE]
But she is shit. A few good players don't make a champion viable.
[QUOTE=Jund;34070682]Yeah wow I can't wait to spend points on a slow moving, unreliable skillshot with huge mana upscaling and little damage over a more reliable nuke[/QUOTE]
Whose cooldown is effected by rank.
And is the only form of hard CC you have.
Yeah I can't wait to spit out these 160 mana skillshots every 8 seconds
[QUOTE=DTkach;34070628]Ok let me amend my statement.
Max E if you suck, max Q if you don't.[/QUOTE]
Anivia's Q:
-Slow moving (NOT reliable at all)
-Mana cost at rank 1: 80 (adds 20 mana each rank)
-Damage: 180 at max rank
-cooldown: 8 at max rank
-is a skillshot
-slows and stuns
Anivia's E:
-Reliable
-mana cost at MAX rank: 90 (10 more than a level 1 Q)
-Damage: 5 less than Q every rank, doubles if chilled
-Cooldown: 5 seconds all ranks
-it's hitscan
I have way too much spare time
Thanks to you guys, I got 7/2/7. Not bad. The egg saved my life a lot. Then I came back and ERE'd them. Maxed out E first, then Q, then R.
[QUOTE=DTkach;34070915]
And is the only form of hard CC you have.[/QUOTE]
THAT'S THE POINT
you use it for the CC and nothing else
Q seems to be a lot more powerful though.
[QUOTE=joost1120;34071004]Q seems to be a lot more powerful though.[/QUOTE]
Its max damage is a WHOOOOOLE 10 more than a chilled E
dont forget that a chilled E has a 1.0 AP ratio
Q:
Cost: 80 / 100 / 120 / 140 / 160 mana
Cooldown: 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 seconds
Magic Damage: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+0.5 per ability power)
E:
Cost: 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 mana
Magic Damage: 55 / 85 / 115 / 145 / 175 (+0.5 per ability power)
Chilled Magic Damage: 110 / 170 / 230 / 290 / 350 (+1.0 per ability power)
Cooldown: 5 seconds
Your main damage comes from E followups to any Qs you land, and once you hit 6 you turn on R and E them
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
I mean it's as simple as looking at the numbers
Anyone who isn't willing to trade 10 damage and cd scaling for reliability, shorter cooldown and less mana cost should not be talking about skilling order
[QUOTE=WTF Nuke;34070379][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8414553/rivenbemywaifu.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I FUCKING
TOLD YOU
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34071001]THAT'S THE POINT
you use it for the CC and nothing else[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have a shorter cooldown on my Q, thanks. Its the only real defense against enemies with gap closers.
And what does it matter? If you max Q and E before putting any/only one point in wall, they are both practically the same rank.
Unless you are implying maxing wall before Q, because then I'd call you stupid.
got my first pentakill as caitlyn last game
feels good man
i got a pentakill and aced the enemy team by myself several times but still couldn't win this normal game by myself with 2 leavers and 2 other people with no kills. got killed once and it was over. :(
[QUOTE=Banana-man;34071110]I FUCKING
TOLD YOU[/QUOTE]
I wanna have sex with riven so much she is so stronk.
[QUOTE=DTkach;34071380]I'd rather have a shorter cooldown on my Q, thanks. Its the only real defense against enemies with gap closers.
And what does it matter? If you max Q and E before putting any/only one point in wall, they are both practically the same rank.
Unless you are implying maxing wall before Q, because then I'd call you stupid.[/QUOTE]
It's 5 to 2 in ranks at level 7, 5 to 1 if you take wall instead of another point in Q
[QUOTE=Jund;34071660]It's 5 to 2 in ranks at level 7, 5 to 1 if you take wall instead of another point in Q[/QUOTE]
Well I am professional Anivia so obviously my word > math.
Relying on the few seconds extra cd on Q to stun LeBlancs and Kassadins when they close the gap is not a good idea
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
Maybe you should take the math into consideration before saying that people who don't follow your subpar skilling order suck
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dQ7as.jpg[/IMG]
I couldn't believe this worked.
Way to not have the Infernape skin
[QUOTE=Dog_Of_War;34072259][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dQ7as.jpg[/IMG]
I couldn't believe this worked.[/QUOTE]
i had a wukong using that skin build full tank wukong
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