Viktor doesn't suck. I max power transfer first, I would rather get in close and risk getting hit then constantly miss death ray. Along with that if you Q+E in quick succession chances are half of your lane enemy's health is gone. Then W pretty much makes him ungankable, if they come out just put it down in front of them and the gank is failed.
I just see a lot of dumb Viktor players nowadays. Makes me sad.
[QUOTE=Jergee;34243149]Viktor doesn't suck. I max power transfer first, I would rather get in close and risk getting hit then constantly miss death ray. Along with that if you Q+E in quick succession chances are half of your lane enemy's health is gone. Then W pretty much makes him ungankable, if they come out just put it down in front of them and the gank is failed.
I just see a lot of dumb Viktor players nowadays. Makes me sad.[/QUOTE]
He's still just a minutely different Veigar to me.
I mean, I can say the same things about Veigar:
[QUOTE]Veigar doesn't suck. I max baleful strike first, I would rather get in close and risk getting hit then constantly miss dark matter. Along with that if you E+W in quick succession chances are half of your lane enemy's health is gone. Then E pretty much makes him ungankable, if they come out just put it down in front of them and the gank is failed. [/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, I love Viktor conceptually, but he needs some serious tweaking.
[QUOTE=Jergee;34243149]I just see a lot of dumb Viktor players nowadays. Makes me sad.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they were better few months ago...
wait
Hopefully he'll get some buffs this patch coming up.
[QUOTE=Soldier32;34244050]Hopefully he'll get some buffs this patch coming up.[/QUOTE]
Nothing announced in the patch preview, I don't think so.
[QUOTE=DjPebbles;34230790]Basically, karma can work in normal games, when you're against bad or decent people if you play her really well, but she is not even near the level of all the other supports, and is definately a horrible mid laner compared to anyone else, high rated, and there's no way for her to go top against a bruiser.
This makes her a low placement on Elementz tier list, which a lot of people determine on which hero they should play, and makes her really unpopular, though she can ofcourse work in normal games, and very well in low level games, she's just horrible to carry solo ranked games with, and is really bad in a 5v5 draft game, since you have so many better options.
A lot of peoples awareness is around Elementz tier list, and i'll give you an example: I used scanner to carry myself up to a very high rating, both because i play him extremely well, and because he is a very strong jungler, and ganker, and the third thing was that people don't see him much, even if at all, so they don't know how he jungles, and they don't know what they should do against him.
I didn't even use the build which the pros use with skarner, i used one which made it less depending on my team, so i could carry the games myself easier.
But the thing i want to point out is, once Elementz updated his tier list, skarner was placed tier 1, and right after that point he's now permbanned or FP in EVERY ranked game, it's a very extreme situtation if he's not banned or first picked.
That was how it was like with Vayne as well, because she really outclasses almost all of the other carries, if they're equal farm.
So overall, she's low on his list, noone finds her attractive, noone sees any good karmas, why bother playing her.
[editline]15th January 2012[/editline]
all my smart shit is always at the bottom omg.[/QUOTE]
can you upload a couple of replays of your skarner games? I like him but wanted to see how other people use him in general and you seem to know about what you're talking about
[QUOTE=Red_Eyes;34244784]can you upload a couple of replays of your skarner games? I like him but wanted to see how other people use him in general and you seem to know about what you're talking about[/QUOTE]
not only does he know what he's talking about, he's Skarner jesus.
Double rods all the way cross the sky
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This would be the perfect patch for me:
Lux:
-Light Binding projectile speed increased slightly
-Prismatic Barrier now increases the movement speed of everyone hit by the shield by 20% (except for Lux herself)
-Finales Funkeln:
-Cooldown adjusted to 70/60/50 seconds from 80/60/40
-AP ratio increased to 0.85 from 0.75
Evelynn and Twitch: remade as they promised
Leblanc: Increased late game potential, but decreased early game damage
Kassadin:
-Nether Blade will now be a passive ability that deals 15/25/30/35/45 damage with each hit, and will only restore mana when hitting champions.
Jarvan IV:
-Mana costs reduced slightly
-Base mana per 5 slightly increased
-Cataclysm bonus AD ratio increased to 1.8 from 1.5
Fiddlesticks:
-Terrify fear duration decreased to 0.75/1/1.5/2/2.5 seconds from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3 seconds
Orianna:
-Command: Attack cast range increased to 850 from 825
Teemo:
-Removed from game [sp]huehuehue reusing jokes[/sp]
ad tf buff plz
I don't know TF that much to understand what his problem is, is his range too small or what?
his E could have a bonus AD scaling, maybe
no viktor buffs
zukriuchen confirmed for bad
why would you want lux's ratios to be higher
her combo is already super painful if you get hit with it, and she has high base
Viktor:
-The Hexcore upgrade will now give you a thousand gold for each time you click on it, while simultaneously killing a random enemy champion. Cooldown of 12 seconds.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;34245362]ad tf buff plz[/QUOTE]
Twisted Fate:
Range increased to 550 from 525
- Wild Cards: AP Ratio lowered to 0.5 from 0.65
- Pick a Card: Total AD ratios increased to 1.2 from 1.0
- Stacked deck:
- Now gives 4/8/12/16/20% Attack Speed from 3/6/9/12/15%.
- It now scales with 0.35 Ability Power and 0.5 AD.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34245399]I don't know TF that much to understand what his problem is, is his range too small or what?
his E could have a bonus AD scaling, maybe[/QUOTE]
Ranged increased to 550 from 525
Movement speed increased to 310 from 305
Stacked deck
Bonus attack speed increased to 4/8/12/16/20% from 3/6/9/12/15%
And some kind of ad ratio
that'd be enough for me to play him again
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;34245486]why would you want lux's ratios to be higher
her combo is already super painful if you get hit with it, and she has high base[/QUOTE]
but if you don't get hit by it she can't do anything for 10 seconds.
[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;34245520]Twisted Fate:
Range increased to 550 from 525
- Wild Cards: AP Ratio lowered to 0.5 from 0.65
- Pick a Card: Total AD ratios increased to 1.2 from 1.0
- Stacked deck:
- Now gives 4/8/12/16/20% Attack Speed from 3/6/9/12/15%.
- It now scales with 0.35 Ability Power and 0.5 AD.[/QUOTE]
go away
Twisted fate:
He's now good
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;34245522]Ranged increased to 550 from 525
Movement speed increased to 310 from 305
Stacked deck
Bonus attack speed increased to 4/8/12/16/20% from 3/6/9/12/15%
And some kind of ad ratio
that'd be enough for me to play him again[/QUOTE]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH so ninjad
[QUOTE=ventnor;34245524]but if you don't get hit by it she can't do anything for 10 seconds.[/QUOTE]
thats why i play sustain casters
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;34245574]thats why i play sustain casters[/QUOTE]
....S-Swainbros...?
Also this
Karma:
-Karma can now store up to 3 Mantra Charges up from 2.
Xin Zhao:
-Crescent Sweep:
-Now gives Xin Zhao a 10% MS boost when used
-Cast time decreased slightly
-Now deals damage based off 10% of the target's maximum health (maybe less), instead of 15% of their current health.
Veigar:
-Base armor increased to 16
-Base health regen increased
Tristana:
-Rocket Jump now has a 0.6 AD ratio
-Buster Shot now has a 1.2 bonus AD ratio
Yorick:
-Omen of Famine heal decreased to 30% down from 40%
I have discovered that if you play late at night/early in the morning you will be paired up with unbelievably skilled players. Literally, I was playing with 4 friends, all of which being lvl 30 except me (I'm lvl 21) and we got paired up against a bunch of games where nearly everyone had at least 2x more wins than our most winning player. There was even a game where these 2 guys both have over a thousand wins, it was so fucked.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34245759]Also this
Karma:
-Karma can now store up to 3 Mantra Charges up from 2.
Xin Zhao:
-Crescent Sweep:
-Now gives Xin Zhao a 10% MS boost when used
-Cast time decreased slightly
-Now deals damage based off 10% of the target's maximum health (maybe less), instead of 15% of their current health.
Veigar:
-Base armor increased to 16
-Base health regen increased
Tristana:
-Rocket Jump now has a 0.6 AD ratio
-Buster Shot now has a 1.2 bonus AD ratio
Yorick:
-Omen of Famine heal decreased to 30% down from 40%[/QUOTE]
What the hell dude, why are you beating up Yorick, hes fine and easily counterable.
Also hes unfamous enough
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34245759]
Tristana:
-Rocket Jump now has a 0.6 AD ratio
-Buster Shot now has a 1.2 bonus AD ratio
[/QUOTE]
ogm burst
[QUOTE=Red_Eyes;34244784]can you upload a couple of replays of your skarner games? I like him but wanted to see how other people use him in general and you seem to know about what you're talking about[/QUOTE]
Someone actualy asked me earlier to save some replays, but i completely forgot after a couple of days, so i don't really have any scanner ones afaik.
I have thought about coaching some of the interested facepunch players though, so that might be a thing instead.
If I play VS AI on easy, I get like 17/3/9 but if I play on hard I get absolutely devastated. What do.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;34245869]ogm burst[/QUOTE]
More like broke as fuck
Graves scales better than that
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