[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32869614]I thought it was the MP7 as the other machine pistol, not the MP9.
The MP9 and the TMP are basically the same gun, that would be redundant.[/QUOTE]There is no TMP in MW3, its been replaced with the MP9.
Who the fuck makes a post about CoD on FP still? I learned my lesson. Don't know you 99% FP has a stick up their ass for Battlefield?
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[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;32870408]There is no TMP in MW3, its been replaced with the MP9.[/QUOTE]
Oh, right. I misread the post listing all of the machine pistols. I misread FMG as TMP for some reason.
Yeah the MP9 is probably just going to be the TMP from MW2.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32870587]Oh, right. I misread the post listing all of the machine pistols. I misread FMG as TMP for some reason.
Yeah the MP9 is probably just going to be the TMP from MW2.[/QUOTE]Yeah it is, same image in create-a-class.
what ever lesson you learnt jb it doesn't mean you're still not a bad poster.
just putting this out there guys but the TMP and MP9 are exactly the same gun.
B&T bought manufacturing rights to the TMP from Steyr and renamed it the MP9, if IW wanted to be really confusing they coulda put the SPP in the pistols section.
Or even worse and confuse the fuck out of "gangsta" kids by adding the Tec-9 and staying true to its Semi-Auto form.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32869614]I thought it was the MP7 as the other machine pistol, not the MP9.
The MP9 and the TMP are basically the same gun, that would be redundant.[/QUOTE]
No, MP7 is a SMG like the MP5 and P90 apparently.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;32870425]Who the fuck makes a post about CoD on FP still? I learned my lesson. Don't know you 99% FP has a stick up their ass for Battlefield?[/QUOTE]
Only when you post about it outside of the CoD thread. It is safe to post in here.
[QUOTE=OutspokenGolf;32871319]just putting this out there guys but the TMP and MP9 are exactly the same gun.
B&T bought manufacturing rights to the TMP from Steyr and renamed it the MP9, if IW wanted to be really confusing they coulda put the SPP in the pistols section.[/QUOTE]
^this
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;32872335]Or even worse and confuse the fuck out of "gangsta" kids by adding the Tec-9 and staying true to its Semi-Auto form.[/QUOTE]
I thought the entire point of gangstas buying TEC-9s was that it could easily be modified to fire full auto. Hence the depictions of it being full auto (The Town, various other movies)
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32866409]You CAN but it's not really practical to have a bunch of guns with a bunch of different kinds of ammo on your side. That's why there are standardized rounds.[/QUOTE]
this is CoD, since when do we care about practicality?
if we cared about practicality the ACR would be in 5.56 to share ammo.
I'm just saying if they wanted to caliber-diversify, it would be pretty easy considering the large number of weapon systems based on the AR-15 platform.
Hell, even a SR-47 would be pretty damn interesting (and actually practical, in the game's world).
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=dass;32872410]No, MP7 is a SMG like the MP5 and P90 apparently.[/QUOTE]
P90 and MP7s are classified as PDWs because they fire "sub-rifle" bullets that penetrate armor better
MP5 and MP9 are classified as SMGs because they fire pistol bullets.
Although we are getting some crossover with pistols such as the 5-7 and the (canceled) UCP, which share calibers with the P90 and MP7, SMGs usually fire 9x19/9x18/7.62 tokarev/.45 (which penetrates really well, actually).
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6FAiE5xCc&feature=channel_video_title[/url]
New multiplayer video.
I especially like how they show the XM-25 multiple times only getting hitmarkers. They definitely seem to have nerfed the noob tubes from MW2.
Sadly was not that interesting uhhg for me.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32874706]P90 and MP7s are classified as PDWs because they fire "sub-rifle" bullets that penetrate armor better
MP5 and MP9 are classified as SMGs because they fire pistol bullets.
Although we are getting some crossover with pistols such as the 5-7 and the (canceled) UCP, which share calibers with the P90 and MP7, SMGs usually fire 9x19/9x18/7.62 tokarev/.45 (which penetrates really well, actually).[/QUOTE]
CoD doesn't really cares about it I guess.
[QUOTE=dass;32876872]CoD doesn't really cares about it I guess.[/QUOTE]
yup, was just explaining it to that person
[QUOTE=Elmand;32875238][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6FAiE5xCc&feature=channel_video_title[/url]
New multiplayer video.
I especially like how they show the XM-25 multiple times only getting hitmarkers. They definitely seem to have nerfed the noob tubes from MW2.[/QUOTE]
Inapropriate content? Really? Ugh...
Honestly, the game looks alot better then any other before, and if no one agrees with that, they are just bandwagoning...
Saw 1 sound out of sync only, everything else looks better then before. Explosions look better.
Everything seems alot more interesting.
[QUOTE=dass;32876980]Inapropriate content? Really? Ugh...
Honestly, the game looks alot better then any other before, and if no one agrees with that, they are just bandwagoning...
Saw 1 sound out of sync only, everything else looks better then before. Explosions look better.
Everything seems alot more interesting.[/QUOTE]
The explosions looked a tiny bit better, but I have been spoiled by more recent games and their fancy particle effects, so they still looked like 2D clusters of ass to me. And the weapon sounds in particular are still pop-gun sound effects with no meat to them, which sounds awful.
But the new streak system is interesting, though I can see the specialist being unbalanced as all fuck, just because the assault package is aimed at people who go for kills does not mean it is the best. I would say having nearly every perk at once would be of greater benefit easily.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;32877231]The explosions looked a tiny bit better, but I have been spoiled by more recent games and their fancy particle effects, so they still looked like 2D clusters of ass to me. And the weapon sounds in particular are still pop-gun sound effects with no meat to them, which sounds awful.
But the new streak system is interesting, though I can see the specialist being unbalanced as all fuck, just because the assault package is aimed at people who go for kills does not mean it is the best. I would say having nearly every perk at once would be of greater benefit easily.[/QUOTE]
Except some guy can just shoot you in the back and you lose it all.
Having all of the perks would be cool, but, I'd rather have some giant overpowered helicopter destroying everything on my side rather than just having a handful of extra perks. I mean look at the perk list, none of them are super useful. It's just kind of the same stuff we've been seeing.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32877895]Except some guy can just shoot you in the back and you lose it all.
Having all of the perks would be cool, but, I'd rather have some giant overpowered helicopter destroying everything on my side rather than just having a handful of extra perks. I mean look at the perk list, none of them are super useful. It's just kind of the same stuff we've been seeing.[/QUOTE]
True that you can easily lose them all to either your stupidity, or someone getting a kill on you. But I can see it being annoying to fight someone with the perks that actually do assist you stacked up (Stopping Power, Deep Impact, Steady Aim, Marathon, basically all the actually useful perks).
[QUOTE=hexpunK;32878115]True that you can easily lose them all to either your stupidity, or someone getting a kill on you. But I can see it being annoying to fight someone with the perks that actually do assist you stacked up (Stopping Power, Deep Impact, Steady Aim, Marathon, basically all the actually useful perks).[/QUOTE]
There is no stopping power, or deep impact. So basically Steady Aim and Marathon are the only two perks you listed that would be helpful, and even then, that's not really that overpowered. Oh fuck they can run forever and also hipfire accurately we're fucked man!
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32879650]There is no stopping power, or deep impact. So basically Steady Aim and Marathon are the only two perks you listed that would be helpful, and even then, that's not really that overpowered. Oh fuck they can run forever and also hipfire accurately we're fucked man![/QUOTE]
Shit, shit shit shit! I can't, like, totally shoot them back! Oh god the world is over, I might as well accept my fate to this running, kind of accurate god I see before me.
Except then they get hardline...
Scavenger might be the one thing unlocked at level 80
:suicide:
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;32881841]Scavenger might be the one thing unlocked at level 80
:suicide:[/QUOTE]
WHAT
Suddenly, CoD completely sucks... (yes, scavenger is THAT important to me D:)
It was a joke, lighten up...
[QUOTE=dass;32881465]Except then they get hardline...[/QUOTE]
You can't pick Hardline as one of the perks you get on your way up, and I don't think it effects the way you get perks if it's part of your default class. You'll get it once you hit the top of your streak, but at that point it's absolutely useless.
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;32881841]Scavenger might be the one thing unlocked at level 80
:suicide:[/QUOTE]
It's not. It's way later on (like 70 or somewhere around there) but it's not unlocked at 80.
I never liked how Scavenger was handled in Black Ops.
Being able to reload super quick AND have unlimited ammo? Not sure if that's balance.
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;32883207]I never liked how Scavenger was handled in Black Ops.
Being able to reload super quick AND have unlimited ammo? Not sure if that's balance.[/QUOTE]
The fact that everyone could do it pretty much from the get-go made it balanced. Besides, Scavenger was useless. Take dual mags and then hardline, and then take Warlord and whatever attachment you'd normally use with the gun. Dual mags gives you extra ammo AND faster reloading.
Man, that new developer diary makes me want to get MW3 now.
Also shits on people who said the game was going to be MW2. The changes to killstreaks is the biggest change to CoD since CoD4.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6FAiE5xCc&feature=feedu[/media]
media'd so people <18 (like me :v) can watch
If the mini-uzi/uzi is in this game, it better be like MW2's uzi: USEFUL. Black ops uzi was utter shit.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;32884328]If the mini-uzi/uzi is in this game, it better be like MW2's uzi: USEFUL. Black ops uzi was utter shit.[/QUOTE]They always get the weapons wrong in COD, the uzi in black ops had the most recoil out of all the guns, where in real life it has little recoil because of it's weight.
The Uzi was useless in both games. In MW2 you already had the UMP by that point, which is superior in pretty much every way. In Black Ops, it was kind of shitty, and there were a lot better SMGs to be used.
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