[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;33189760]Maybe not WW2, but maybe Korea or god willing they actually do the Vietnam War some justice. In Black Ops, there wasnt the feel of the actual Vietnam War imo.
Maybe all the anchorisms didnt help. A 2010 Jeep Model with a early 70's TOW Missile Launcher at Khe Sahn 1968, M60E4 look alikes in 1963, and AK-74 prototypes in the hands of Viet Cong.
They dont have to be 100% realistic, but at least have the equipment right.[/QUOTE]
I think they should just leave it until they can come up with some different gameplay mechanics.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;33189786]He didn't even mention BF3, get off your high horse[/QUOTE]
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I knew the engine wouldn't change much, but most of the models are the exact same. It really does feel like MW2.5, the Survival mode it a bit of fun, but not really much beyond camp and kill. The little MP iv'e played feels the exact same, idk, maybe i was expecting a new game or something, but luckily I got a free copy and my money went elsewhere... Battl.... eh nevermind. Its clearly obvious which Dev team put in more time and made a new experience rather then rehashing the same ole.
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idk, maybe i was expecting a new game or something, but luckily I got a free copy and my money went elsewhere... Battl.... eh nevermind. Its clearly obvious which Dev team put in more time and made a new experience rather then rehashing the same ole.
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my money went elsewhere... [B]Battl....[/B]
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[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;33189760]Maybe not WW2, but maybe Korea or god willing they actually do the Vietnam War some justice. In Black Ops, there wasnt the feel of the actual Vietnam War imo.
Maybe all the anchorisms didnt help. A 2010 Jeep Model with a early 70's TOW Missile Launcher at Khe Sahn 1968, M60E4 look alikes in 1963, and AK-74 prototypes in the hands of Viet Cong.
They dont have to be 100% realistic, but at least have the equipment right.[/QUOTE]
I'm biased toward WW2, I just like the setting for games. But if they want to give Vietnam or even Korea an honest try then more power to them.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;33189820]Actually the AK-74 didn't appear in Viet-Cong hands. It only appeared near the end of the campaign, in some Spetsnaz Labs.
I don't really get people who complain about re-hashed gameplay. I mean, the gameplay has been pretty much the same since CoD4. Right now they pretty much said they're trying to find a sweet spot with gameplay so that everyone can play and have fun before they start experimenting. Black Ops experimented and people didn't like it. MW2 experimented and people didn't like it. They're trying to perfect their current style of gameplay before shifting to a new one.
I don't really see why it's such a bad thing anyways. It's more of the same gameplay with some new features and weapons. If you like Call of Duty, you'll like this game, pretty much.[/QUOTE]
About the AK-74, Im talking about what they designated AK-47 which was pretty much the standard weapon of the VC. The AKS-74u is the one your thinking. The AK-47 in game would have to be a 74 prototype due to the curvature of the magazine. AK-47 has the more distinctive curve, while the 74 has the less harsh curve due to the diffrence in ammunition used.
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189709]"Hello, I saw a trailer of this game and thought that BF3 is way better. Then I went to facepunch and started to bash the game. Did I mention that I like battlefield more? Because I do, and that is because Battlefield is better. You wanna know why? I will tell you why, because MW3 is just a MW2.5 and BF3 is better. I like it better because its less worse than being better than, and Bf3 is best/ter my final verdict is average and I like BF3 better, and?"[/QUOTE]
But MW3 is exactly MW2.5 have you looked at all the reused content
[QUOTE=Wootman;33189886]But MW3 is exactly MW2.5 have you looked at all the reused content[/QUOTE]
Well... true. But there arent many ways to reload M16 anyways.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;33189879]I'm biased toward WW2, I just like the setting for games. But if they want to give Vietnam or even Korea an honest try then more power to them.[/QUOTE]
I think it would be nice to return to WW2 if they do it right. Bring back the longer campaigns of 1 and 2.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;33189820]Actually the AK-74 didn't appear in Viet-Cong hands. It only appeared near the end of the campaign, in some Spetsnaz Labs.
I don't really get people who complain about re-hashed gameplay. I mean, the gameplay has been pretty much the same since CoD4. Right now they pretty much said they're trying to find a sweet spot with gameplay so that everyone can play and have fun before they start experimenting. Black Ops experimented and people didn't like it. MW2 experimented and people didn't like it. They're trying to perfect their current style of gameplay before shifting to a new one.
I don't really see why it's such a bad thing anyways. It's more of the same gameplay with some new features and weapons. If you like Call of Duty, you'll like this game, pretty much.[/QUOTE]
The problem is Activision works on a "if they buy it, they only want this" policy, that Kotick himself expressed as such. If people buy a game, fuck originality and most importantly fuck other franchises, all of the Publisher's focus will go on this one particular franchise.
Not only does that sink a lot of very interesting projects but this also destroys quite a lot of various developer teams that try to make original games and get drowned by Activision for it. The worst part is quite a few publishers decided to go the same way as Activision (in a less extreme way though) and also fuck up smaller devteams to the profit of one or two big teams that poop sequels yearly - in the course of four years, the CoD license extended by 5 games - CoD 4, WaW, MW2, BO, MW3.
Guess what will be the next big Activision title to come out ?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33189925]The problem is Activision works on a "if they buy it, they only want this" policy, that Kotick himself expressed as such. If people buy a game, fuck originality and most importantly fuck other franchises, all of the Publisher's focus will go on this one particular franchise.
Not only does that sink a lot of very interesting projects but this also destroys quite a lot of various developer teams that try to make original games and get drowned by Activision for it. The worst part is quite a few publishers decided to go the same way as Activision (in a less extreme way though) and also fuck up smaller devteams to the profit of one or two big teams that poop sequels yearly - in the course of four years, the CoD license extended by 5 games - CoD 4, WaW, MW2, BO, MW3.
Guess what will be the next big Activision title to come out ?[/QUOTE]
Okay dickbag we know that you dont like Mw3, stop being such a tool about it
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189898]Well... true. But there arent many ways to reload M16 anyways.[/QUOTE]
I think he's talking about textures not reload animations.
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189898]Well... true. But there arent many ways to reload M16 anyways.[/QUOTE]
Over three games, Epic Games reworked almost every single animations of the game Gears of War and constantly added new content and made the game nicer to play, and we're talking about a "science-fiction" game here, where the game designers actually have to come up with everything shown. Also, the first GoW took one year to be made, GoW 2 two years, and GoW 3 three years, which shows as time went on they needed more and more time to put more and more content in it.
[editline]8th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189963]Okay dickbag we know that you dont like Mw3, stop being such a tool about it[/QUOTE]
Look it's not about Mw3. I'd like Mw3 if it was at a lower price and I'll probably end up buying it when the price will at least be divided by 2. The problem is Activision's policy that prevents developers from doing a good job and being original.
It's just alarming. Plus, someone asked a question why people seemed to hate the whole re-hashed thing, so I told him why.
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189898]Well... true. But there arent many ways to reload M16 anyways.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about textures, models, and hell even text strings:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CE79v.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33189978]Over three games, Epic Games reworked almost every single animations of the game Gears of War and constantly added new content and made the game nicer to play, and we're talking about a "science-fiction" game here, where the game designers actually have to come up with everything shown. Also, the first GoW took one year to be made, GoW 2 two years, and GoW 3 three years, which shows as time went on they needed more and more time to put more and more content in it.[/QUOTE]
Okay, here is a news flash. IW and Treyarch also have been polishing the game over the years. Adding balance and new features. The graphics have also improved a bit (except Black Ops, but thats a different story). Call of Duty has never been the best looking game on the market and IW knows that. They know that people want a new game and their engine isnt quite up the par with, say, Frostbite 2 or Crysis engine. What IW though does have is very well optimized engine that STILL is the best and smoothest/ most responsive for games like Call of Duty.
Yeah it doesnt have anything awesome eye candy packed in it, but its still an extremely well optimized glitch and lag free engine that also runs decent(ish) graphics on older hardware and laptops.
We, the community, [B]dont want BF3[/B] or Crysis. [B]We want Call of Duty[/B]. We play Crysis for Crysis and BF3 for BF3. COD we play because its COD.
I still don't understand the importance of the error message saying 2 instead of 3.
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[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33190077]
We, the community, [B]dont want BF3[/B] or Crysis. [B]We want Call of Duty[/B]. We play Crysis for Crysis and BF3 for BF3. COD we play because its COD.[/QUOTE]
idk why this is so hard for people to understand.
as if the like 20 threads are not enough, people also have to come into the MW3 thread just to get their hate out about MW3.
you know what they say about people who constantly look for reasons to be angry right?
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on topic: totally gonna steal my friends copy when he buys it.
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33190077]We, the community, [B]dont want BF3[/B] or Crysis. [B]We want Call of Duty[/B]. We play Crysis for Crysis and BF3 for BF3. COD we play because its COD.[/QUOTE]
Cool, and I want other games from developers that belong to Activision and barely ever release anything because CoD gets all the publisher's attention.
And if you still believe Activision isn't totally centered on CoD, just look at Raven Software's [url=http://www.ravensoft.com/]website[/url]. The devteam has barely anything to do with call of duty, and the first thing on the page is a huge ad for MW3. Their last game to date, Singularity (which by the way deserves a sequel and never got one) just has a little mention in the bottom of the page. Thanks activision, that's totally what I want to see when I go on Raven's website.
I'm not criticizing MW3 here, just Activision shitty policy of focusing on ONE game, to the point of hiding the rest behind a thick wall of ignorance.
So uh, guys, how's the game? I'm hearing mixed reviews, bad and good. I don't know, I'll probably play later since IntKeys just sent the key.
After the launch day of MW3 I can statistically speak that the majority of CoD's playerbase is juvenile.
As in 85%.
I've disliked the multiplayer aspect of the Call of Duty games after 4: Modern Warfare, but have still bought them just for the short singleplayer. The storytelling isn't that good, but I've always wanted to follow it. Bought and completed MW3 a few minutes ago, and [sp]felt really sad, after the past three games, Price is the only real survivor. All of the main characters and main side characters have ended up dead, with the exception of Nikolai. Watching Soap died made me feel pretty sad, I get attached to characters I play, even if it's not a very good/overdone game. Then the ending with Yuri, felt terrible when he died too. Wish that the ending was spanned out a bit more, and that they made Price give some ending dialogue about his fallen brothers.[/sp]
I haven't played the games for multiplayer since the first MW, can't believe I spent £40 on three hours of singleplayer, but I enjoyed it, and I guess that's as much as I should have expected from it, I knew i'd be short :v:
[QUOTE=Themage;33189620]Are you blind? Literally every thread has people griping about graphics.[/QUOTE]
And you know what I think of them?
I think they are complete fucktards
Yes, fucktards
To be hating on a game possibly for graphics alone.
Crysis1/2 come out "hurr its a tech demo"/"hurr it only has nice graphics its still shit" (respectively)
Then they are capable of playing something with the most hideous, most shitty graphics on earth and say it rules.
They sound like a friend of mine who bought a new computer and basically gets every game he can just to test how they work in his computer. Then he pulls the usual stunts "hurr, how come and help me! I don't know how to pass this!" or "Hurr I press space in every DX3/DA2 conversation because they are boring...." *minutes later..* "I'm gonna uninstal this shit, I don't know how to pass it!"
I don't see other people doing what they do in cod, like going overboard just to search for that little small piece of map that you probably would never even see or give a damn that has a lower resolution and detail in other games.
Hell, metacritics website has people that probably never even played the game and they all basically copy paste others reviews because they are all negative and biased completely to (lets face it) BF3 fanboyism, seen by the fact that they all compare this to it and then say "play bf3 instead".
I'd rather have ok looking graphics (they are more then ok to me, their pretty good, I don't need to have FrostRealLife 2) and increadibly good performance (yes, the game runs amazingly well on my computer, which is like 3 years old and when I got it, it was FAR from the best hardware)
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33189362]Enjoy your $60 expansion pack that could and should get sold at $25 at most[/QUOTE]
Okay I will :v:
[QUOTE=Logic Studio;33189709]"Hello, I saw a trailer of this game and thought that BF3 is way better. Then I went to facepunch and started to bash the game. Did I mention that I like battlefield more? Because I do, and that is because Battlefield is better. You wanna know why? I will tell you why, because MW3 is just a MW2.5 and BF3 is better. I like it better because its less worse than being better than, and Bf3 is best/ter my final verdict is a solid average and I like BF3 better,?"[/QUOTE]
Basically this times every basher.
[QUOTE=dass;33190326]And you know what I think of them?
I think they are complete fucktards
Yes, fucktards
To be hating on a game possibly for graphics alone.
Crysis1/2 come out "hurr its a tech demo"/"hurr it only has nice graphics its still shit" (respectively)
Then they are capable of playing something with the most hideous, most shitty graphics on earth and say it rules.
They sound like a friend of mine who bought a new computer and basically gets every game he can just to test how they work in his computer. Then he pulls the usual stunts "hurr, how come and help me! I don't know how to pass this!" or "Hurr I press space in every DX3/DA2 conversation because they are boring...." *minutes later..* "I'm gonna uninstal this shit, I don't know how to pass it!"
I don't see other people doing what they do in cod, like going overboard just to search for that little small piece of map that you probably would never even see or give a damn that has a lower resolution and detail in other games.
Hell, metacritics website has people that probably never even played the game and they all basically copy paste others reviews because they are all negative and biased completely to (lets face it) BF3 fanboyism, seen by the fact that they all compare this to it and then say "play bf3 instead".
I'd rather have ok looking graphics (they are more then ok to me, their pretty good, I don't need to have FrostRealLife 2) and increadibly good performance (yes, the game runs amazingly well on my computer, which is like 3 years old and when I got it, it was FAR from the best hardware)[/QUOTE]
Where it's shocking is that the game, with the same engine as the previous titles, manages to look worse. As little as graphics care, it's still quite disturbing to see this kind of things happen, especially when the three titles are made by the same guys.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33190376]As little as graphics care, it's still quite disturbing to see this kind of things happen[/QUOTE]
then you are very easily disturbed because that's literally as first-world problems as you can get
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;33190296]I've disliked the multiplayer aspect of the Call of Duty games after 4: Modern Warfare, but have still bought them just for the short singleplayer. The storytelling isn't that good, but I've always wanted to follow it. Bought and completed MW3 a few minutes ago, and [sp]felt really sad, after the past three games, Price is the only real survivor. All of the main characters and main side characters have ended up dead, with the exception of Nikolai. Watching Soap died made me feel pretty sad, I get attached to characters I play, even if it's not a very good/overdone game. Then the ending with Yuri, felt terrible when he died too. Wish that the ending was spanned out a bit more, and that they made Price give some ending dialogue about his fallen brothers.[/sp]
I haven't played the games for multiplayer since the first MW, can't believe I spent £40 on three hours of singleplayer, but I enjoyed it, and I guess that's as much as I should have expected.[/QUOTE] [sp] when soap died i was like fuuuuuuckkkk he was the only one i liked, and do you not think when he was getting dragged through the streets he had a lot of fuckin blood coming out of him, like a stupid amount [/sp]
[QUOTE=thisispain;33190395]then you are very easily disturbed because that's literally as first-world problems as you can get[/QUOTE]
We're talking about freaking video games you dumb fuck, they are first world problems by themselves.
But when you get shittier result than the 4 year old game with the same engine, it either means you didn't have much time to work on the game or that you don't care anymore about it. That's what's disturbing.
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[QUOTE=dass;33190326]And you know what I think of them?
I think they are complete fucktards
Yes, fucktards
To be hating on a game possibly for graphics alone.
Crysis1/2 come out "hurr its a tech demo"/"hurr it only has nice graphics its still shit" (respectively)
Then they are capable of playing something with the most hideous, most shitty graphics on earth and say it rules.
They sound like a friend of mine who bought a new computer and basically gets every game he can just to test how they work in his computer. Then he pulls the usual stunts "hurr, how come and help me! I don't know how to pass this!" or "Hurr I press space in every DX3/DA2 conversation because they are boring...." *minutes later..* "I'm gonna uninstal this shit, I don't know how to pass it!"
I don't see other people doing what they do in cod, like going overboard just to search for that little small piece of map that you probably would never even see or give a damn that has a lower resolution and detail in other games.
Hell, metacritics website has people that probably never even played the game and they all basically copy paste others reviews because they are all negative and biased completely to (lets face it) BF3 fanboyism, seen by the fact that they all compare this to it and then say "play bf3 instead".
I'd rather have ok looking graphics (they are more then ok to me, their pretty good, I don't need to have FrostRealLife 2) and increadibly good performance (yes, the game runs amazingly well on my computer, which is like 3 years old and when I got it, it was FAR from the best hardware)[/QUOTE]
It's a bit disturbing when a game that is released by a professional dev team in 2011 looks like Half-life 2 which was released in 2004.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33190459]We're talking about freaking video games you dumb fuck, they are first world problems by themselves.[/QUOTE]
k but i don't know what you hope to accomplish bothering everyone in the CoD thread with insults and criticisms about a game that just came out.
i mean you just keep posting the same thing with the same broken english, you must not have a lot to do.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33190459]We're talking about freaking video games you dumb fuck, they are first world problems by themselves.
But when you get shittier result than the 4 year old game with the same engine, it either means you didn't have much time to work on the game or that you don't care anymore about it. That's what's disturbing.[/QUOTE]
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